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    Dell XPS M1730 Owner's Lounge, *Part 3*

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by BatBoy, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. Psyloid

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    looks like a broken card to me.... dell time :(
     
  2. Psyloid

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    yup, thats what you want them to do, mine also run those clocks in idle/2D
     
  3. totostar

    totostar Notebook Consultant

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    Though temperature still rises to 70 degrees after 3 minutes before the fans kick in and lowers it to 57 again.
    Down clocking does not have much effet on heat, even after a full cleanup.
     
  4. Psyloid

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    Try turning of the aero windows theme and see if it happens again (it uses a lot of 3d card power)
     
  5. Psyloid

    Psyloid Notebook Evangelist

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    Steam sale:

    Arkham asylum : 24.99€
    Arkham asylum + just cause : 20.73€

    What an idiots! but good for me ;)
     
  6. totostar

    totostar Notebook Consultant

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    Hehe nice suggestion but unfortunately still not working lol
     
  7. Psyloid

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    Hmmm, then I will just blame dell's flawed cooling system
     
  8. totostar

    totostar Notebook Consultant

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    Indeed !

    Cause When the fans start even when overclocked and highly used, the temperature is reasonable around 68.
    Time for a notebook cooler then :)

    On a side note I have wwan card called qualcomm hs usb but can't seem to find the drivers for it, any ideas?

    Thanks
     
  9. Psyloid

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    totostar Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks I did try that but it didn't find them, I have no use for this kind of card but it does get annoying not to have every piece of hardware correctly installed :p
     
  11. Zero_Shadow

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    Thanks much appreciated for your help :)
     
  12. BluePlum

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    Will the motherboard model OF513C Work with a dell m1730? To my understanding, theres to Mobo's for the m1730, the original being the OF513C and the new one being the 0Y012C.
     
  13. 72hundred

    72hundred Revolutions-Per-Millennia

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    Dropping the vote BIOS update outta my sig.

    I think every one who's going to see it and vote has done so by this stage, and the vote's been fairly static at 320 for some time now. Also don't think Dell will be acting on it!
     
  14. Psyloid

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    I voted, but I never actually believed dell would do something about it anyway ... Thanks for trying though
     
  15. totostar

    totostar Notebook Consultant

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    Haha ! I have exactly that problem 72hundred. Damn Dell.
     
  16. totostar

    totostar Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,

    I got a big problem my laptop suddenly froze and now when I boot it my screen just flashes in different colors, what gives?
     
  17. Magnus72

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    Hmm fried GPU? Sounds like it.
     
  18. newfiejudd

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    Hey all working on my Friends XPS M1730, and noticed his CPU is running extremely slow. After some digging it seems that his PSU isn't working or should I say being recognized by the SYSTEM. I was just wondering if there was a working aroudn taht would still enable full power to the CPU. If not it will have to be a new PSU.
     
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    I contacted my seller and he's sending me a new 8800m gtx replacement, he offered me the 9800m gtx but I don't have 350 pounds.
    It's damn weird the gpu was running at 60 degrees and I was on youtube when it happened, and there were no warning signs.
    Was it possibly caused by the under clocking profile I used?
     
  20. Psyloid

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    probably coincidence, you're getting replacements though :)
     
  21. totostar

    totostar Notebook Consultant

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    I'm writing this message from my xps, I turned it on 15 minutes ago thinking here goes nothing and well everything works.
    I don't understand !
    Is my card dead (soon to be) or is it something else I'm at a loss...
    While I had the problem, the computer did boot normally so I don't think it could be a mobo issue.
    It's almost worse not to know what is (would) be wrong.

    Edit : BSOD came up after 20 minutes about Memory Parity error, and I'm back on the flashing color screen on boot ...

    Edit 2 : Ater 1 hour the pc booted ok but then i chose my xp partition, it's been one hour i played some and nothing, could it be possible the win7 drivers are causing this? even the color flashing straight after power on ? and disappear after being shutdown for a few hours??
    This thing is driving me crazy lol
     
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    Might be a stupid question, but have you checked to see that the power setting is on High Performance and can use 100% processor speed?
     
  23. Darkwolf

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    On Sunday something happened that I have witnessed before: my game suddenly started stuttering like mad. Then after a few minutes it ran fine again. And then the stuttering occurred. Rinse, repeat.
    Then I checked the GPU tempratures and wow... 94 degrees celcius as I was playing Borderlands.
    So like one year ago, I grabbed the vacuum cleaner and sucked the life out of all the air vents at the back and on the bottom.
    Started stressing the GPU's with some nasty Crysis benchmark and it barely hits the 80 degrees celcius mark.
    Problem solved (once again.) :cool:
     
  24. 72hundred

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    Hey,

    So you just but the vacuum cleaner to the back of the laptop and let it pull the dirt and dust out?

    Laptop on at the time?

    Sounds interesting, as its very quick and easy way of doing things.
     
  25. Psyloid

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    I think its risky, compressed air can should always be the way to go, while the computer is OFF
    I also think you should do this monthly !!

    @totostar: I think that when you replace the gpu's all problems will be solved
     
  26. 81288

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    okay, back with some feedback. Turns out my Mobo is still alive, and the prob was the AC adapter.

    For those who don't know wat my prob was, check a few pages/posts back...

    Or read the following:
    Some time ago my AC adapter wasn't being recognized by the system.

    Called Dell and was to be sent an onsite tech under the "Next Business Day".

    3 business days later, tech calls and make appointment.

    Next business day, tech comes with mobo only and AC adapter.

    Refurbished mobo was found to be DOA. Luckily tech hadn't screwed thngs up and changed AC adapter and voila, it worked.
     
  27. cebalrai

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    I actually opened up my 1730, pulled out the GPUs, and cleaned them out by hand. The fans were partially clogged by dust bunnies that were solid enough to not be suctioned out through the grille. My temps dropped about 7 degrees.
     
  28. pikris

    pikris Newbie

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    Please welcome me to the i have a code 43 problem with my 8800's.
    i was trying to solve the problem by installing new drivers for the last 2 days.. but from what i read here, my gpu are fride.
    Or not? Is there any possibility that the code 43 problem can be fixed and my gpu are not fried?
    thanks
     
  29. totostar

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    Just bought the Zalman nc 2000 for 60€ and it's performing pretty good.
    the fans are at max and they are so silent, the card are kept at 60 degrees without rising to the usual 75 before the xps fans kick in.
    The games run between 60-72 degrees on Metro 2033.
    I guess I'm gonna be fine.
     
  30. blazer666_uk

    blazer666_uk Notebook Guru

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    I have the same and mine idle at 70 and go upto 90+ with games and I have a laptop cooler and all cards are dust free.
     
  31. Darkwolf

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    I disconnected all cables and USB connections and had the laptop on it's back while it was OFF.
    Then I sucked everything out on the bottom grills and then the grills at the back.
    Personally I don't believe it's risky and perhaps even better then blowing compressed air inside the machine.
    It's also said that compressed air (especially when doing the keyboard) blows the dust more deeper inside the machine instead of getting truly rid of it.
     
  32. Psyloid

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    - no it's certainly not better, over time dust forms little carpets over the vents and they can really stick together, you wont be able to suck those out with a vacuum cleaner, with compressed air, you can break em, so I believe compressed air always gives a better result

    -For the keyboard, yes it's true what you say, but that only applies to desktop keyboards, notebook keyboards are constructed differently and you wont be able to blow dust deeper into the notebook
     
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    .......eh, just my opinion but i just use both. Vacuum cleaner for often dusting (weekly about), compressed air sparingly (per month-ish). never had a problem and dust only gets "sticky" if there's enough moisture and enough dust accumulates.

    just my two cents.
     
  34. Kade Storm

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    True, but what if one were to vaccum regularly? No build-up then, and a clean system with an easy solution.
     
  35. hikkoo

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    +1 Kade

    im at war with dust! :mad2:
    clean me desktop "espically directly under rig" twice a week, be suprised
    how much annoying dust gathers under rig, cant figure out were comes from :confused: ...lol...probably from me.
     
  36. eleron911

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    Mine never go over 80-81C when the system is dust free, and never above 86C when there is a lot of dust in it. Weird.
    I'll keep it, doesn't hurt, even just for the heck of it. Though I don't quite post as often as other times, I'll leave it as a sign of respect for the Beast that worked nicely so far... :>
    I dunno why, but the vacuuming thing doesn't really sound appealing to me. I do it the old fashion way, with q-tips and canned air, this way I feel like a surgeon lol :D
     
  37. Psyloid

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    hmm, perhaps,
    It just doesn't appeal to me to use a blunt instrument like a vacuum cleaner on a 3000€ presise apparatus. I prefer the "surgeon" approach like eleron911
     
  38. hankaaron57

    hankaaron57 Go BIG or go HOME

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    Regardless of what you do, every 3 months at the MOST, you must take the computer apart and remove the dust bunnies. If you want optimum temps. The heat sinks are dust bunny magnets.
     
  39. SomeFormOFhuman

    SomeFormOFhuman has the dumbest username.

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    I do my cleaning every 3 months. I ripped the entire machine apart and clean out everything including the paste of the GPU and CPU.
     
  40. eleron911

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    I still have the original thermal paste. So far, no issues. Because of the stupid BIOS and late fan startup, I don't know how much of a difference it would make.
    If it ain't broke, don't fix it, I always say.
     
  41. SomeFormOFhuman

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    The original paste that came with was horribly applied, and my 9800M GTXs were running at 72*C max, but I applied ICD7 and it ran at 65*C highest. But yes, I have to agree that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Unless you know what you are doing and you're confident you can improve it.
     
  42. eleron911

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    Let's not forget, using an X9000 make a whole lot of difference.
     
  43. SomeFormOFhuman

    SomeFormOFhuman has the dumbest username.

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    Oh yeah. :) Gotta love those.
     
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    However, if you're running an overclocked X9000, you need to be religious about cleaning out the fans. Even though I don't use my M1730 that much anymore, I can tell when the sinks are starting to clog up. Running those fans all the time moves a lot of air through those sinks, and therefore a lot of dust.
     
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    Well, I do regular disassembly clean-ups myself, but the vaccuming is just. . . gravy? I mean, it gets the stuff around the vents, usually the crud that'll eventually work its way inside the system. This can be seen when I open the system because there's much less dust and gunk blocking the heat-sinks.
     
  46. Denz101

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    Hey guys,

    I Repaired my Power brick temp until my new one arrives Found the red wire within the DC side breaks at the center pin and near the input on the brick i cut both and soldered the connections and WHOA it Charges and runs full speed now! :D :D :D
    this is what it looked like Mod: http://yfrog.com/ekimg0343lj

    I now have Fully Working XPS M1730 now From the repair Project i mentioned a week ago i have been rebuilding it up and have it Running like a deram now
    Soo far Reflow 8800gtx GPU done. Its been running perfect though would look out for a 9800sli card when a reasonable one shows up.
    I have won a New Motherboard on e-bay last week thinking that was part of the cause but was not though it came with a Top cover and palmrest assy included i replaces it all While Vacuuming the shell, fans and Now a Brand new shell and MB Like a new laptop!! :D http://yfrog.com/b8img0351oj

    Right now it has raided 200GB 7,200 HDDs I think i'm going to take the OCZ SSD from my ASUS and Install that next :cool:

    So far i'm running windows 7 with the Vista drivers and no problems so far
    I Keep it Over clocked and it Keeps Soo COOL makes my ASUS like a toaster oven!
    Just with there was a way to throttle the fans a little when no load is on But it's Not an issue for me.


    IMOP it's a Real Nicely built machine with Quality thought into it (GPU problems aside)I keep the rear Propped on 2 AA Batt Cases and that's all it needs for good flow would have been Nice if they had integrated Folding Feet Like the Early Presario laptops to make these perfect..
    Just Hit 14596 3dmarks :D my Asus G72 like 11,000 with the Extreme cpu ocd. http://yfrog.com/euimg0350bj
    Den
     
  47. Denz101

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    Ok I have Tried It being a few said it won't Work and Though no evidence that anyone has acutely tried it? so i did while i have a X9100 Cpu in a Box of Goodies right here http://yfrog.com/jnimg0348hej :D :D

    so Why Not? http://yfrog.com/78img0347oj
    Well Took it down during case cleaning and MB replacement And took the X9000 out and Slapped the X9100 in and Partial assembly No Post, Held the PWR Button and three lights Light on the keyboard and then they went out..\\
    Took the 667 mhz Ram out and put some 800 mhz Chips in incase that was causing it No Dice!
    Last try Removed Cmos batt for like 10 minutes............... Same So There it is Sadly the X9100 Will Not Work in the XPS M1730 would have been a Beast

    Just thought i would save the curiously wondering like i was from wasting any time..
     
  48. SomeFormOFhuman

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    Any 1066Mhz FSB processor will not work in the M1730. The same goes to many other Santa Rosa machines., it uses a PM965 and only 800Mhz FSB acceptable, and not to mention BIOS support. But it's good that you tested it. :)
     
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    Nice! never thought any company manufactured such a thing...

    Will try a set for sure :D
    Thanks
    +rep
     
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