Dell XPS and Sandy Bridge

Trying to decide whether to return my XPS 15 and wait for the Sandy Bridge version to come out.

Are there any benchmarks comparing the notebook Sandy Bridge i5 to the regular notebook i5? Will battery life be any better?

 

Still nothing on dual-cores. But yes, it will be significantly improved. According to quad-cores reviews, they have a 45W TDP, ffs they have 4 cores, and yet in the worst case you get as much battery life as with current dual-cores, best case you get substantially more.

 

Could someone just give me a ballpark on how much a XPS 15 will cost with SB ? Right now a reg XPS 15 starts at $799 maybe the SB $899-999 starting out ?

 

I think they will cost the same.

 

I doubt it. Faster and better battery life and IGP that is 2-4 times more potent for the same price? Early adopters always pay more, I would wait it out.

 

The new laptops should cost more initially. You always get better deals if you can wait. The economy isn't going to improve for years. So companies have no pricing power. Expect prices on the new laptops to drop fairly quickly. The introduction of new tablets should also cause prices of laptops to eventually fall. It's a buyers market. Just wait a few months if you can.

They'll probably be some great clearance deals on older laptops now. They might be worth buying just as a backup.

 

NewEgg sells the i7-740QM for $389 ( link). MSRP on the new Core 2011 i7-2720QM is $378 ( link). Obviously Dell buys in bulk and gets them for much cheaper. I don't think Sandy Bridge will cost any more to produce. They need to keep prices low to stay competitive which is why I wouldn't be surprised if the price stays the same. They may not give any discounts for a little while though. Dell is presenting at CES today so hopefully they reveal the details.

 

the price of the processors are the same however, chipsets, motherboards, R&D for dell, are not.

i except the newer laptops whit the same specs, except a newer generation processor (i7 740m -> i7 2720m and alike), will raise by around €50.

nothing more than a wild guess, though.

 

There is actually a HP pavilion dv7 for sale that another person bought.

2nd generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM
6GB DDR3 RAM
1TB 5,400RPM Hard Drive
17.3" High Definition+ HP BrightView LED Display
Intel® WiDi
LightScribe Blu-ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD±R/RW Double Layer Support
5-in-1 Digital Media Reader
ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 6570
10/100/1000 Network
802.11b/g/n Wireless
Bluetooth
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
Brushed Aluminum

All of this for $1150. ( microcenter)

I know the Envy line is more of a direct competitor the the XPS line, but still the price ranges are similar for the specs and there was no noticeable increase in cost. Judging by what the competition is doing, I doubt that Dell will raise prices that much.

 

Another big question is will the #01x prices drop once the #02x releases, and if so, by how much?

 

Not much, and they'll get rid of them quickly in favor of the next model.
When the SXPS 16 was on its way out the pricing wasn't much more than $50-$75 less than it ever was prior to discontinuing it.

 

I gave a call to my local Dell to enquire about this. He told me that it'd be released late March or April.

Any chance for a Geforce 500 series GPU?

 

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Surely they will do the same for the 14 and 15 inches! Numpads!!!

 

Yes, Numpads rule!!! I hated those speakers on the SXPS 16 instead of the numpad. XPS 17 has numpad and the sound crushes the SXPS 16!

 

Oh I hope the 15" one has numpads as well. Can't they move the speakers somewhere else and make space for the numpad?

 

Where are they on the 15? On the 17 they are in the bottom corners.

 

Dell live at CES

Live from Dell's CES 2011 press event -- Engadget

 

Awesome!

Interesting, a link from the comments there leads to Dell's community site, which states that there will be no Optimus if you get the 3D display. However, you will get Optimus with Sandy Bridge i7s if you don't get the 3D display.

 

Only 17inch notebooks announced. why would they do that? guess another manufacturer or apple will get my sales

 

15" laptops aren't exciting to talk about at Press Events. I think the only reason they mentioned the L702x is because it has a 3D screen and 3D is so popular this year at CES. I'm hoping Dell has some of the L502Xs at their booth. I'm going to keep monitoring Engadget for Dell related stuff.

 

New XPS 17 with Geforce GT555M available February 1

Dell Announces New XPS 17 With Next-Gen Core i CPUs and 3D

 

Sucks being out of the return period now too. Nice way to punish the early 701x buyers.

 

It's not like you didn't know Sandy Bridge was being released early january. And Dell is usually quick to refresh CPUs.

 

I did my part in telling people to wait few months atleast Botsu. Shure there were alot of other people doing the same. I was going to buy the G53JW but said F-IT and waited. Payed off bigtime

 

Yea, I didn't really read a lot about all the new tech before I got my 17. Just seemed really fast between models. Guess if we always waited we would never buy anything though

 

Although I'm sure base pricing will be identical to L4/5/701X systems, for me, the big deal is that base i7 QMs start at 2.0ghz.

my school requires min 1.8ghz cpu if quad core. That's +$600 CAD from the base i5

i7-720QM (1.73ghz) will probably be replaced with i7-2630QM (2.0ghz)
= no upgrade required. $600 saved.

I'm sure the 11"/14"/15" versions of alienware and XPS laptops will show up at the same time as the 17"

 

starting price for the l702x is apparently $1,449.
i posted this on xps 17 thread:

 

$1,449 includes a 3D display, GT 555M, Core i7, and maybe even Blu-Ray. The non-3D version should be cheaper.

I may skip 3D because of the info below. When I'm not gaming I want my laptop as cool as possible. I can only imagine it'll run hotter, and drain the battery faster, if it uses discrete full time. I really wanted to run Windows at 120hz though

 

are you sure?
in a few sites ive seen it states the " starting" price is $1,449, surely thats the base price with a normal panel?
its not mentioning anywhere that thats the starting price with a 3D display

 

I was under the impression Core i7 and the GT 555M were required to take advantage of the 3D display. I could be totally wrong. $1,449 might be Core i5. Ahhh February 1st can't come soon enough

 

well those are upgrades from the "starting" price?
will just have to wait for more info i guess

 

Here's another quote similar to the one above

So if you get the 3D display the GT 555M can't take advantage of integrated Core 2011 switchable graphics OR nVidia Optimus? GPU will basically be running 100% all the time? Or is it saying you can't use Core 2011 switchable graphics but you can use the discrete power saving, aka Optimus?

 

We should find out Jan 10 (M17xr3 release)

Alienware: Pricing and availability: starts at $1,499 available on January 10, 2011 (that date will vary by region)

XPS: Pricing and availability: starts at $1,449 available on February 1, 2011 (that date will vary by region)

The wording does suggest that is the base price.
But why would I buy an XPS for the same price as an alienware with a GTX (except for the fact that I think the alienware systems are too flashy)? Especially considering Dell markets the XPS line as being a tier below alienware.

Edit: My bad. $50 difference ( lol)

 

I know for sure I read the 555M was needed and there was no Optimus with the 3D display. I don't remember reading anything about an i7 being required.

 

I thought the same thing. I guess it depends if you want to hardcore game or if you prefer watching 3D movies. Do any apps other than movie ones use the 3D screen?

 

Both are 3D ready

(re; alienware 17r3)

source (click)

 

Cool, I didn't read the Alienware section too deeply. I remember reading about that other one with the Crossfire/SLI.

 

Actually, this leads me to believe that the announced pricing includes the 3D kits.

Like I said earlier, we'll find out on the 10th.

and, "3D viewing requires NVIDIA NVision 3D glasses, sold separately"

 

Damn, no announcements from either Dell or HP about the Sandy Bridge in the XPS 15 or Envy 14 ...those are the ones I am interested in. Need mine for work, not 3D

 

Yeah ditto. I hope there is some information regarding the XPS 15. Also I wonder how long it will be before sites will get the updated machines for review? I would like to find out the stability and performance of the new hardware in the machines. All in good time I suppose!

 

The longer they make you wait for an announcement, the bigger the sales are upon release!

 

I have a small question for the XPS 14 and 15 owners. Does the Fn button activate the numpad on the JKL and UIO button?

And can you lock the Fn button so that you don't have to hold it down for numbers?

 

New Alienware is available in USA and europe.I make the math and the situation is not good for europeans as always.Little numbers now.
Alienware USA - $1,499.00 / EU - 1 999,00 €
---Intel® Core™ i7 2720QM 2.2GHz (3.3GHz Turbo Mode, 6MB Cache) Add $150.00
---Intel® Core™ i7 2720QM (2.20Ghz, 6MB, 4C)-- ajouter 310,00 €
I know the price usually in EU is higher but that is wayyyyyy too high.And from dell announced that new XPS will start at 1600 $.Is that mean 2000 € here in EU??
---17.3" 120Hz w/ 3D Bundle WideFHD (1920 x 1080) WLED LCD--320,00 €
I know this is the price for Alienware but i think the case with xps will be the same.Now when i know this numbers I'm no longer so excited about new XPS things.And may just stop the big waiting and buy a "old" XPS.Price/preformance is the thing that make XPS so attractive.until now

 

Weren't the Alienwares supposed to come out at the same time as the XPS on the 1st of Feb? or was that indeed just the XPS' out next month, in which case we'll have to wait that long for pricing?

 

No, I definitely remember reading the Alienware were coming out in January.

 

Correct...

 

Look at the Dell site. Alienware is in stock.The price is directly copy from there

 

Good news is, my country (Malaysia) already has the latest Alienware with Sandy Bridge in stock. Which means that the XPS release date should also be the same!

Bad news is, it is ridiculously overpriced at RM 7499, while it's priced at US at $1499. The exchange rate is currently 1 USD = 3.06 MYR.


But why is it that Alienware only refreshed its 17" laptop? Is this a sign that XPS will only refresh its 17" laptop as well?

EDIT: Meanwhile, the price for the current XPS 15 is dropping!

 

Eric G. seems to be the inside information, on his blog he indicates the L502x is coming with Sandy Bridge and a few other specs.

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