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    Dell's Graphic Driver vs. Modified Nvidia Driver for 445M

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by RoosterRed, Dec 31, 2010.

  1. Metal_Militia

    Metal_Militia Notebook Consultant

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    nope i havent changed any settings in the nvidia control panel.
    only changes ive made is the modded driver and overclock :D
     
  2. kroenen04

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    ah,ok I understand.Are you modding the drivers yourself especial for dell notebooks?
     
  3. kroenen04

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    Ok..and all is running better.Right? ;)
     
  4. Metal_Militia

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    Dane modded the 266.44 nvidia driver, like RoosterRed said before, "modding" only means your "fixing" some files to allow you to install official nvidia drivers on dell machines because dell only allows you to install their drivers.
     
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    yup its running great! its very stable and smooth :D
     
  6. kroenen04

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    Ok..I have the 266.44,afterburner and furmark installed.
    But I didn´t installed "Kombustor"..what is it?Is it I programm I need?

    In msi afterburner I cannot set up the "core voltage" and the "fanspeed".Is that ok or an error? :confused:

    And a queston about furmark:I have 2 desktop icons..furmark and furmark multi gpu.Wich is the right one?
     
  7. compwiz0620

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    Kombuster is another program to stress the GPU to test overclocking.

    You can't set the voltage or fan speed on mobile GPUs with Afterburner.

    Use Furmark. Multi GPU is if you are using Crossfire or SLI with more than one video card.
     
  8. Metal_Militia

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    did you chose the "clean installation" option? this will erase the old driver.
    you dont want to mess with the voltage, and the fan speed is automatic.
    you cant change these settings.
    kombustor is furmark, but the official one pushes the GPU a bit more. you dont have to install it.
    just run "furmark" from the desktop.
     
  9. kroenen04

    kroenen04 Notebook Consultant

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    The "clean installation"?I don´t know...when I look in my card stand 266.44. :confused:

    I have downloaded the original furmark...It is running now with a stability test.But with the dates for afterburner from here ist runs with 76C and is falling down to 68..now up to 76C..is that normal?



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  10. splinterpc

    splinterpc Notebook Geek

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    i've a question about screen and nvidia control panel:

    is there a way to "optimize" the contrast, black, brightness, gamma, etc etc to get a "best of" image; i don't expect miracles, just some screen tweaking ... :D
     
  11. compwiz0620

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    It's possible. Does the fan run harder when it hits 76C? If so, then it probably runs that hard until 68C, and then kicks down a notch again and repeats that cycle over and over.
     
  12. RoosterRed

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    ahhh... good question..this is something we are trying to acheive on this thread on the later pages.....
    I've read your posts and you seem to be doing fine.
    Are you saying that the version of the driver that your testing is 266.44?
    if so , then you installed it .
    But before overclocking I would test it to see how its performing, play a game, look for any choppiness or stuttering..
    if this doesn't happen, your install of your driver should be fine..
    Thats when I would apply the overclocking
    Just my opinion...
    Rooster :cool:
     
  13. kroenen04

    kroenen04 Notebook Consultant

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    Here is a screenshot:

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  14. kroenen04

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    Oh,damm..I overclocked yet. :eek:


    actual shows this...:

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    It goes not down with the temperature..bad?..:

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  15. RoosterRed

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    sok..lol.
    it was just an opinion...
    from your screen shot, it looks to be within the norm..
    have you noticed any "stuttering" or "choppiness" with your screen?
    if u haven't u should be fine...

    Rooster :cool:
     
  16. 1andstop

    1andstop Newbie

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    I have been playing with my screen settings for a few minutes and it looks pretty good with brightness-32, contrast-90, gamma-1.74, digital vibrance-48, hue-0. I haven't seen any settings posted.
     
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    No,everything is fine with the screen.But the temperature goes higher and higher..

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    Now its 79C...whats the maximum?

    How long I must do the stress test with furmark?
     
  18. 1andstop

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    I don't remember my original settings.:0
     
  19. compwiz0620

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    Is that with Furmark Extreme Burning Mode? That one really heats up the card so you can be sure it will be stable during normal use. If it gets to 85C, I would stop the test. Be sure to monitor the temps during normal use. It's not good in the high 80s or higher for extended periods of time.

    Does anyone else's Furmark crash when you use the Extreme Burning Mode and try to end it. It doesn't crash my whole PC. I just need to go into Task Manager and kill Furmark. And it never crashes while the test it running, only when I try to end it.
     
  20. splinterpc

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    uhm, i had the parameters in % as this:

    brightness +47%

    contrast +50

    gamma 0.97

    brilliance +50%

    tonality 0%

    i will try your settings...thanks mate!
     
  21. kroenen04

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    No,its not the extreme mode..but it goes not over 79C..now its down on 69/70C.

    1h 16m run..
     
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    I never ran it for that long. I'll try tonight and see what happens.
     
  23. RoosterRed

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    You can stop the test now...seems stable...
    play a game or run 3DMark6 to see score, etheir way, monitor your temp during and just make sure it doesn't get too hot(80C)or higher...

    yeah, once or twice I've had to end by task mangager but didn't think too much about it..

    Rooster :cool:
     
  24. kroenen04

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    So..I played Crysis for a while...1600x900,4xAA and all on ultra high..only vsync and motionblur out and shadows on medium.And what I can say...awesome..a lot better as before overclocking.there is a szene,were you must help a woman in a wracked drop ship and kill the flying aliens..before overclocking it was a judder adventure..but now it runs so good.it feels like 10fps more.what a different. :D

    But a question about the afterburner monitor on the right site:I have no parameters to look there?Must I activate something?And can I controll the fps in the game with it?
     
  25. RoosterRed

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    clk on settings for afterburner, then chose Monitoring....

    [​IMG]

    Clk on Graph and choose what you want to show ont the screen, each one has the ability to show on screen display..
    I have Gpu usage and temp on mine...

    Rooster :cool:
     
  26. 1andstop

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    Clk on Graph and choose what you want to show ont the screen, each one has the ability to show on screen display..
    I have Gpu usage and temp on mine...

    Rooster :cool:[/QUOTE]

    Is there an easy way to show Cpu temp in task bar?
     
  27. DaneGRClose

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    I believe ThrottleStop has a function to be able to monitor CPU temps from the task bar if I remember correctly.
     
  28. wlfng2005

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    Guys, I uninstalled the game (Grand Theft Auto 4) and reinstall it again but the problem still persist. Does anyone happen to install the game by any chance?
     
  29. Metal_Militia

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    yeah, when running the installation wizard for the new driver, you have the option to do a "custom" install, where you can tick a box to perform a "clean installation", this will delete the older driver to avoid any problems.

    my max temp was about 69C when i run furmark for around 22 minutes, your temps seems to be ok, but if i was you, i would restore the pc to before you installed the modded driver, then download and install again but this time choose the clean installation option, just to make sure everything is as clean as possible.

    you should run the test for 15 minutes to an hour, this is enough to show the stability of the settings.

    good news then, that seems like a great improvement :D
     
  30. Metal_Militia

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    sorry to hear that it wasnt fixed :(, you should roam the nvidia forums maybe they have a solution somewhere.
    i dont have this game so i cant test it, sorry.
     
  31. splinterpc

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    guys, i've a strange problem:

    today i started the pc, but when i pressed the function buttons( wifi enable/disable, battery panel, brightness set) there wasn't anything on the screen: the buttons work properly, F2 switch on/off the wi fi but i can't see anymore the 2 icons in the corner of the screen!

    what can i do?
     
  32. Metal_Militia

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    is the wifi icons the only thing that dont show? or is it for all the features, brightness etc?
     
  33. splinterpc

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    //**** EDIT ****///


    what the hell is happened? i iberned the pc and the function keys are working fine now!!
     
  34. kroenen04

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    Help..please.Whats with my 445m?I played Crysis on high settings..it worked fine.But than it crashed.Ok,I started it new..but now it´s jugging every time.The dell is also not so warm like before.Onlylow heat..at scenes were he is going very hot in the past.I made a fumark test and the temperature is not going over 74C..in one exact line..no curves all the time..only strikt line.I started the notebook new...but same problem...is my card broken?Or another part?
     
  35. DaneGRClose

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    You probably have to do a restart or possibly even reinstall the driver kroenen04. What happened is your overclock is too high to be stable and the driver crashed, it doesn't get as hot because until you do a restart it gimps the clocks on the GPU to about half of what they should be in games. If a restart doesn't fix it you'll need to uninstall and then reinstall the driver. No matter what you do lower that overclock or you may damage your computer.
     
  36. DaneGRClose

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    Splinterpc- I had the same issues with mine after a few driver installs, you may need to run driver sweeper a few times in safe mode to ensure everything is cleaned out in the system that's Nvidia related then reinstall the driver of your choice. Typically when things happen like that it's because a remnant of more than 1 driver is lingering and causing a conflict.
     
  37. splinterpc

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    ok i installed it and runned; i should be ok now? i have to reinstall 266.44 driver?

    i have a list of driver group: ati, realtek, and nvidia group: chipset, screen,physx..what i have to do?
     
  38. DaneGRClose

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    1-boot into safe mode by pressing f8 at startup until it comes up with the option to start in safe mode

    2-start Driver Sweeper, then click the box with anything that starts with Nvidia

    3-click analyse

    4-click the box that looks like * then select all and make sure all the boxes have checks next to them

    5-click clean, click ok, click ok to reboot

    6-boot into windows in normal mode, you may get a pop up box that asks you to enter a y or a n, select n then hit enter

    7-reinstall the driver of your choice(266.35, 266.44, etc)

    8-reboot and you should be good
     
  39. Metal_Militia

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    what settings did you overclock to?
    and i'd do what Dane suggested.
     
  40. kroenen04

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    I overclocked the same settings like you.Now my laptop is crashed. :(

    I was waiting for 2 hours...turn the computer on...make a testrun with furmark..same problem...no heat...only max.70C all over the line.No curves.

    Were I can reinstall the driver complete?
     
  41. splinterpc

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    if you need reinstall, it's better select a clean reinstall:

    when you run 266.44 driver, select customized install: you can choose which component re install and also the clean install type; i don't know how it's translated in english but it's there

    /** personal impression on crysis **/

    the game is really beautifull, aside the grafic. I just travel in jungle to see rocks, water and other thing; the water is one of the most magnific thing i've ever seen, since far cry 1 on my 6800 ultra; i like tremendously kill grabs, hens, chickens, turtles, shoot petrol tanks;

    i shoot down a tree with a grenade and it fell on my humvee..spectacular!
    if you have 20 € to burn, choose this game: you won't be worried.

    the game detect automatically on high setting everything, and the fps average is about 25 fps; but if you like (as me XD ) anti aliasing the drop is quite significative; actually i ran a 1600 x 900, x16 AA, all setting on high with 20 fps average, NO OVERCLOCKED GPU and i don't notice any slowement for now, even in great bunch of corean soldiers...

    temperatures are always below 72° C for now... i ran a session of 2 hours today.
     
  42. Metal_Militia

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    i already said this

    and if you want to overclock, choose lower settings to those i gave you :D

    if you run the game in a lower resolution, or with AA off, do you still get crashes?
     
  43. DaneGRClose

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    No matter what the situation kroenen04 your overclock was higher than what your card could handle. 3 people having the same card(GT 445m) doesn't mean all 3 will handle the exact same overclock. 1 may not be able to run at stock settings, 1 may be able to overclock by 10%, and 1 may be able to overclock by 200% for all we know. Each card has the same name on it but it's still a different card just with some similar characteristics to the others. Lower the overclock until you get no crashes.

    The clean install option doesn't always work just FYI, especially when using a modded set of desktop drivers on a laptop. You can use that but it still may leave behind traces of old drivers. Nvidia's clean install option is still new and for some reason doesn't always work 100% 100% of the time.
     
  44. kroenen04

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    The problem is,my laptop is not going over 72C..no curves and no heat in the down left corner when it´s working hard.Before it was so hot,that I couldn´t touch it for long.What´s in the left corner?The cpu?

    Here is the furmark test..you can see no curves and no heat...:

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  45. RedlanceEQ

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    I did a furmark stress test for 15 minutes and your results are close to what I got. The "curve" is at the start of your graph. As for the heat, mine got to 75 degrees, which is close to your results.
     
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    I included DaneGRClose's statment just to imply how important is to research and understand what you're doing before you start "tweaking" with your system. Please take these suggestions to heart.

    With that out of the way, I have been where your're at kroenen04, and my suggestion is to restore to the point before you did any changes.
    then upload the driver 266.44
    then test your system with the driver alone, you may have to run driver sweeper as Dane gave the instructions earlier.
    Then and only then, install afterburner and increase the settings(read this thread again to find the intial settings that best suit your experience,lower is better for now)
    Just use this experience to build on your knowledge.

    Rooster :cool:
     
  47. DaneGRClose

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    LOL, the curve not being there isn't always a bad sign. Do me a favor so I can rule something else out, download GPU-z and install it. Once installed click on the second tab where it monitors clocks and check the both boxes that say "refresh while in background" and the "save log" one. Once you do that leave it running and play a game for a few mins. Come back on here and upload the log that it saves(usually called GPU-z Log in your documents folder) and I can see if it's being used or not to determine if it's the hardware or the driver.
     
  48. kroenen04

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    So..I downloaded GPU-Z..but the game crashed in the first 2 minutes...and I couldn´t go out with "escape"..I need to turn out the computer.
     
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    Ok..here is the result from GpuZ for some Minutes Crysis on high settings..its jugging...thats never done before. :(


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    And here I looked,what happen when I overclocking a little bit more as the dates from here...the temperature goes higher..but no curves..at 79C I stopped the test:

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    In the next days is coming a dell expert to my home,to look about the fan soundproblem.I could say him the heatproblem,too.But can he see that I´ve overclocked,when I use the "restore point button"?
     
  50. RoosterRed

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    Bare with me as I am fighting a stomach flu so...
    Just for curiosty sake I ran a furmark for 15 minutes with similar settings (I had it set @712 but it shows 708MHz, close enough...)

    [​IMG]

    I never got over 72C and seems fine, no jittering, no stuttering
    I noticed something weired with kroenen04's Log
    [​IMG]

    and with mine, it shows the setting for the GPU to be at least factory settings where as kroenen04 shows seriously reduced numbers.... :confused:

    [​IMG]

    I reset to factory settings after furmark test just for my own memory but kroenen04 numbers are confusing to say the least...
    hmmm..
    Rooster :cool:
     
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