Finally SXPS 1647 comes out on Dell Website

Not with i7 Quad cores but 2 cores, i7 -620. I tried to configure one with the following specs. and It costs less then my returned Dell 1645 . Maybe it's becuase of the CPU, which is cheaper.

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellst...n3&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&kc=performance-deals


Dell 1647 Total $1994 without tax (But with 4GB of Ram you will pay just $1,769)

Intel® Core™ i7-620M (2.66GHz, 4Threads, turbo boost up to 3.33Ghz, 4M cache)
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English edit
3 Year Basic Service Plan edit
Premium HD WLED Display in Merlot Red with Leather and 2.0 MP (This is RGBLED Screen, just use the different term)
6GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz , Upgradable to 8GB
500GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive
8X Slot Load CD/DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)
ATI Mobility RADEON® HD 4670 – 1GB
85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Intel® 6300 WLAN Wireless-N (3x3) Mini Card (Newest Version)

Compared to the i7 Quad cores options

DELL 1645 Total $2178 (without Tax)

Intel® Core™ i7-820QM Quad Core Processor @ 1.73GHz
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English edit
3 Year Basic Service Plan edit
Full HD Widescreen 16.0 inch RGBLED LCD (1920x1080) W/2.0 MP
6GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz , Upgradable to 8GB
500GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive
8X Slot Load CD/DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)
ATI Mobility RADEON® HD 4670 – 1GB
85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Intel® 5300 WLAN Wireless-N (3x3) Mini Card

Notice that the "Premium HD WLED Display with 2.0 MP" is the RGBLED display option of the 1647 system,

Im not sure if the 1647 still comes with 90w Adapter, like 1645

My question the CPU performance is different so much that you will have to pay more about $200 to get the i7 Quad core (1645) instead of i7 dual Cores (1647) evern if 1647 comes with the newest Intel 6300 wireless adapter?

I dont know which one should I go for? (But not the 1645 with 90W adapter and no fixed throttle issue for sure)

 

I'd go for the 1647 (in-fact, I just barely ordered mine!)

The quad core i7 is 45nm and gets quite hot and uses lots of power, the dual core i7 is newer tech, 32nm, and runs much cooler. Unless you REALLY need the quad cores, then the dual core one is a better option. They run at higher clock rates too, so in many cases it will probably be faster.

 

But if the 1647 comes with 90w adapter, welcome to the throttling issue

i5 620M TDP max = 35W
i7 720QM/820QM TDP max = 45w

Only a different of 10w max

 

Well, we will just have to see about that. The power adapter doesn't seem to be listed in the full order details. Obtaining a 130w adapter is an easy enough fix.

*Also, that 35w tdp includes the onboard video, which isnt being used on this as it has the ATI card, so you can probably knock another 10w off, although the turbo boost may take advantage of that and just boost the cpu up even more.

BTW how is the performance of that 256GB SSD, I ordered one in my system too? I have a 128GB Indilinx drive in my main PC and I friggin love it. I hope the Samsung SSD's are similar in performance?

 

I have 128 GB Indilinx too and the performance of the Samsung PM800 are very similar.

 

The screen is $250, the memory is $225, so the new i7 is slightly more expansive.

 

Am I the only to think, that Dell should reconsider their prices based on asus last offering Asus G73Jh-A1 for $1600 doll. I love my dell and got it for way too cheap to tell but even if the screen is a bit less good on the asus , that is a heck of a price...

 

2 questions.
Where does it say Studio XPS 1647?

And are the CPU's upgradable/replacable with the original core i7 720QM's? If so this isn't really a refresh at all...

 

STRONGLY considering returning my 1645 and getting this. One of the only things that is making me reticent is that I would need to give up my Blu-Ray player. I'm not sure, but I think I might do it.

Owner's Manual.

No, they're not upgradeable. The reason it's a refresh is the dual core chips are newer than the quad-cores.

 

Yeah, I am not sure if they are a different socket or not but I think the chipset is different, so I doubt the cpu's are compatible. IMHO Dual Core + Hyper Threading is PERFECT for a laptop!

 

Throttling issues?

 

Dell Malaysia has the 90W Adapter in the list i saw when configuring...

Anyways its using 32nm and lesser TDP than the i7 Quads right? So it shouldn't be a problem anymore?

 

Why is everyone crying about the 90W adapter

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=437800

 

What laptop do you have ?

 

Is the 1645 being replaced by the 1647 or will they both continue to be available?

 

I would assume they will both continue to be available as the new one only has dual cores, so if you want a quad then you need to get the other one.

 

With AC 90w, it will throttle.

My 1645 with i7 720QM (just 10w less of the i5 620M and ~15w without IGP), I see ~140w in burn... So, I think the 1647 needs ~115-125w.

 

Is that measured at the wall? Even at 80% efficiency a 90W adapter would pull ~112w from the wall so hrmm I wonder how it will go. Guess we will just have to wait and see.

How did you get your 130w adapter? Did you have to pay for it?

 

I bought my AC 130w on eBay because Dell dosen't want send to me a 130W AC.

 

The total price includes the RGBLED Screen option already.

 

Both laptops are still available on Dell web site. Actually, they are shown in the same page of SXPS 16

 

I don't know how you configured them. From the link you posted i620m is about $100 more expansive than i720qm, if both are configured with 6g ram and rgbled.

 

This made me LOL! hahaha

 

it actually makes me cry.
I live in Brazil and ordered a xps 1645, having it delivered in USA at my aunt`s house. i travelled to the US in december 09 and got it there.
Now im stuck with this problem and am not sure if it would even be possible to return the notebook...

anyway, can you pass me the link for the adapter??
thanks

would any 130W power supply work?
this one for instance? - http://cgi.ebay.com/130W-Power-Supp...ZLaptop_Adapters_Chargers?hash=item53deeeaeb3

 

OK, If I update the 1647 with 6GB of Ram and RGBLED, the total will be $1994 which is less than the 1645 about $200

Try to configure one on Dell website and see for yourself. Also Read the OP one more time. you will understand what you're missing

 

Any 130W supply designed for a dell laptop. IMO dells solution needs to include something more than a 90W power supply for those that ordered it. Your situation may be difficult because of your location. I would try explaining the issue to dells support. At least get a comment logged now, so they can't say you didn't complain when you first got it. I wouldn't be surprised that they only send them out to those that notice the issue and complain.

 

Famous last words

 

If one rep. doesn't agree to give you the 130W power supply, just hang up & call back to talk to someone else. Some reps will give it to you, that's how I got mine.

 

there's no blu-ray option for the 1647

 

Given how they're the same price, I really wonder if the 620M and the 720QM are truly equal in all ways.

Hopefully Sandy Bridge will put the whole dual vs quad thing to rest once and for all.

 

Search Dell PA-4E on eBay (130w slim)

 

Ok guys, I order a P8700 and I'm considering cancelling it NOW!. But I need to know if the new i7 is a worth it and b better than the old i7. Is q quad cord lappy really worth the hype?

 

The P series Core 2 Duo has a TDP of 25W. Using RMClock will reduce it even more. The i7/i5 models have a higher power consumption and there are still lots of throtteling issues that have not been resolved.
The P series will run more silent and the battery life is extended.

An i7 720QM (quad core with HT) will speed up your system when encoding or editing videos. Complex mathematical simulations will also run faster. For all other applications you won't really notice any difference. Even games are limited by the graphics card and will not really profit from a faster CPU.

The 620M is a dual core CPU with hyper threading. You won't get a quad core at all. It will be a little bit faster than the Core 2 Duo models. If you need the speedup depends on the applications you run.

 

I really hope that with the 1647 dell will make some design changes to allow better cooling like adding a second fan or rearranging the current vent from under the lid( that's the craziest thing).

 

So what do you recommend as the "best of both worlds" gaming & everyday apps? with no throttling or minimal.

 

They send a 90w AC with the 1647, so I think they don't make some design change for the heat issue.

 

how do you know its 90W? I believe they are not shipping yet.

 

From Eugene91 :

Yes, chipset HM55 is compatible : i5 5xx / i7 6xx / i7 7xx, 8xx, 9xx

 

When new ATi 5xx0 card?

 

and what about the i5-520M/540M's consumption? now i see: 35W TDP, 32 nm, only 2 cores.

Dany|R: the Mobility HD 5000 series have been just announced i think they'll be available in the first half of the year.

 

kinda a general statement but it really looks like overpriced throttled crap to me. more of the same. at least it looks pretty

 

They're OOS. Have been for a while.

So use ThrottleStop. Problem solved.

 

Anyone know when this will be available in uk with i7-620m cpu?

I asked the dell rep today and they said dont know. They have got it advertised with the i5 to i7 cpu on uk website but you cant configure it an i5 eirther.

 

You are missing the point. I think we all appreciate the hard work that kevin put into this and he is contributing a lot to help us. Again, greatly appreciated. The point here is why pay the additional bucks to get a crippled system in which the user has to spend more of his time to look into forums and read hundred of pages to be able to find a third party app to resolve the problem or patch it. Not everyone has enough time to do so. When I want to shop for a computer I look for the cpu and according to my needs i pick the right speed for me and expects the system to deliver the advertised. If i know the system will run at almost 10% of its potential out of the box i would have chosen a different system and cheaper. Just my 2 cents.

 

the price of those two CPU might be the same but the price between 1645 VS 1647 's not the same, 1674 is cheaper

I still think that 720QM will still beat 620M in some heavy tasks. It might be just a liitle though.

 

The XPS16, aren't they telling people the shortage story of the screens?
And the bluetooth is in usb module???
http://configure.dell.com/dellstore...&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&kc=laptop-studio-xps-16

 

Don't forget the quad core is from a previous iteration of the nehalem architecture. It still has a discrete north bridge, a front side bus, etc. the arrandales integrate all those pieces on the die, so in addition to lower electricity usage, they make ram and graphics access more efficient since fewer steps separate the CPU from the other parts.

 

I think the i7-620 & 640 are the best of both worlds.

 

Actually the quad core is basically a mobile Lynnfield, it has on-die memory controller and PCI express. (45nm)

With the dual cores it is basically a mobile Clarksfied, which has the memory controller, pci-express, and IGP on-package but on a separate die, which is 45nm (the cpu die is 32nm, however).

In all reality, none of that matters much, however the cpu being 32nm on the duals is a bit of a benefit, but they get a bit more memory latency than the quads as they have to go to the other die for the memory controller. It doesn't use the FSB architecture between the two dies, its more similar to a QPI link, I believe.