Has anyone done Arctic Silver 5 on the XPS M1530?

Has anyone done Arctic Silver 5 on the XPS M1530?
I like to know just how hard it is to do.

 

Have you ever applied it on any CPU before?

 

There is only one heatsink, and it is accessible through the same flap as is used to upgrade the RAM, so it should be much easier than most notebooks, so only a little harder than in a desktop.

 

can't u void your warranty like that..?

 

Yes, on desktops, but not notebooks.

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How about the gpu as that runs hotter than the cpu? It would be senseless just to do the cpu.

 

By having a constant lower temperature, would that increase/maintain original performance of the laptop?

Unless I am mistaken, for me, the computer is great once I turn it on but after a few hours when the TEMP increases, the performance decreases - so by correctly using Arctic Silver 5, would that maintain the original speed/performance?

ALSO, unrelated to my first question, but does Arctic Silver 5 allow for overclocking?

 

Lower temperatures = increased life, heat is what kills computer components. The cooler it runs, the longer it will last.

Now, temperature doesn't really directly lower performance, it's just that if it gets too high the CPU will not run at its full speed in order to prevent damaging itself. AS5 wouldn't necessarily allow for overclocking, either. You can overclock without doing any hardware modifications. What the AS5 will (ideally) do is allow for better thermal transfer between the CPU and the cooling system so it won't heat up as much from overclocking theoretically allowing a higher overclock without damaging anything.

I am also considering applying AS5 to the GPU and CPU in my M1530. My concern is whether or not it will void the warranty. I'm not sure if there's any way to tell that I used AS5 instead of whatever is on their by default. In the end, I'm sure voiding the warranty won't bother me since I typically end up voiding warranties for all my other computer hardware. However, I'm not eager to do it on a laptop if there isn't significant benefit.

 

why don't u get a laptop with arc silver 5...like the sager np5793 , that way u don't void ur warranty

 

That makes sense and I would want to know too.

Back to the original question: Has anyone done this yet to the m1530?

 

By what your saying, then my problem where the computer runs mostly anything I give it when I turn on the laptop (which previously had been off for a few hours) and then a few hours later slows down to where one can see a direct difference in performance - is not related to temperature?

Say for example, when I turn on the laptop, I can play a 720p HD movie with no problems then a few hours later, when I try to play the SAME VIDEO, there are out-of-sync audio issues and other video related problems.

During these few hours the CPU warms goes from 40C to sometimes 75C. The only way to fix this performance problem is to turn off the computer and do the heavy work later, this problem will not be fixed by a simple restart but at least from what I have tried, only time.

I have 2GB of DDR2 RAM.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!

 

If ANY notebook experiences performance issues from heat, no expensive aftermarket thermal compound is going to magically make your temperatures drop to substainable levels. It is the job of the thermal compound to transfer the heat and the job of the cooling components to remove the heat.

By altering the OEM setup, you will void the warranty and risk improper application resulting in poorer heat removal.

You need to make sure that all of the fans are working, the cooling path is not obstructed and that all heat spreaders, piping, cooling fins and heatsinks are properly attached.

 

Actually when i first got my M1530 i thought about applying Arctic Silver to it but after putting the "Speed Demon" through some extended gaming with FEAR, The Witcher, and UT3 i decided against it, this thing gets warm underload, the only time it gets close to being "Hot" is when i am watching a DVD

 

Hey if you are able to take apart the screen to give it a paint job, then applying Arctic Silver should be a piece of Cake

 

Did you try undervolting your CPU? It really helps. It decreased my temps by ~10 celcius in my m1330. I run folding@home smp 24/7 on it so it is a cpu intensive task.

 

Oh wow, thats pretty cool, to get that much coooling, by just undervolting, but cant undervolting in long run hurt the cpu

 

Not from my experience. I have been undervolting since the Pentium M era without any problems. Just don't undervolt too much or you will get lockups and won't be able to hibernate (had this issue with XP only).

 

I am curious to see how this would affect temps on the 1530 also, I have done this with desktops and found pretty significant temp drops. I definitley dont want to void my warranty though. The 1530 8600m GT does seem to run cooler than most other notebooks I have seen with the same card from what I have seen here though.

 

Dell wont check what programs you have installed in your hard drive. Like I mentioned before, I never had issues with undervolting my cpu with RMClock.

 

Thats right! Dell gets many Dells back for various reasons and aren't going to waste their time looking at what you've done. They're not going to do any more than what it is sent in for. Same goes for the other brands.

 

If you do use it , remember to use the thinnest possible film of it. Sounds to me like your fans and heat sinks are just really dirty too. Try blowing it out with compressed air.

 

I put new thermal paste on mine and the fan hardly comes on now. The thing that makes the fan come on now is the gpu because it eventually heats up.

 

Uhhh.... why didn't you apply thermal paste on your gpu while you were at it?

It is the gpu generating the most heat by at least 10C in the m1530!

 

I wouldnt OC anything unless I was using AS5. As far as voiding the warranty its more or less that your removing essential parts and they cant warrant if you mess up and install it wrong and break something. As for temps youll notice a slight decrease in temp, but not as much as a desktop and things will be more condensed as well as the gpu and cpu usually share the same heatsink/fan setup. To apply youll need to follow the directions as to how much to apply per what core you have, and as for removal and installation of the heatsink youll have to refer to dell.

 

So your saying the cpu and gpu are together under the same heatsink?
That would mean I could do both of them with Artic Silver 5 at the same time?

 

Get AC MX-2 instead of AS5 if you decide to do this. It's cheaper and better

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/3989-arctic-cooling-mx-2-thermal-compound-review.html

 

Hey, I'm planing on doing the same thing to my 1530, only thing is, I'm thinking about using AS Ceramique, I read that it's better and more efficient and you don't have to worry about it touching the mobo because it isn't conductive like AS5. Just my 2 cents. I'm planing on doing it in the next few days.

 

the few laptops I have AS%'d have had 1 heatsink which was attached to both the gpu and the cpu. It wouls be one heatsink and 2 applications as they are difference chips.

 

That review doesn't compare AS5 to MX-2...

 

No it doesn't I just linked it as a reference. I have not seen any official direct comparisons (except on the AC website) but have read some on forums. Seems MX-2 keeps things a hair cooler. It also is non-conductive, easier to apply and at least here it is much cheaper. AS5 is thick and goopy. MX-2 is nice and creamy.

 

I did apply thermal paste to the gpu. It just that its impossible to keep a 8600gt cool only passively forever.

 

I'll first clean out the entire computer of any debris dust of any kind.

It would seem that Arctic Silver 5 is an better option (and cheapier) then going for a cooling pad.

But the problem after researching is that the CPU is throttling after it gets to a certain temperature and then remaining at that low performance CPU level until a shutdown/time. Does that make sense? It seems right. Its 99.99% not a software issue since the problem occurs with different hard drives.

PS: My warranty has been expired for some months (not a M1530).

 

So... it was near or under the cpu w/same heatsink? How hard was it to get to?

 

What was the result - how much of a difference?

Very interesting, just today K-TRON wrote this in response to my question on applying AS5 on the GPU :

"You do not want to apply arctic silver to your gpu because the core and the memory chips usually have thermal pads on them. These pads are different thicknesses, so tha the heatsink sits flat on top of the gpu. If you remove the thermal pads, and apply a thin layer of arctic silver, their will be an air gap between the memory chips and the heatsink, which results in much higher memory temperatures, since metal has better cooling potential than air."

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=3189687&postcount=44

What do you say in response?

 

I see what you are saying but in the M1530 the thermal pad is only on the chipset <- Northbridge I assume. The cpu and gpu both share the same heatsink. It is very easy to get to. Just like how you replace the RAM the cpu and gpu are right there. Just unscrew the heatsink and unplug the fan. I used some cheap thermal paste to try it out then ordered some Tuniq TX-2 thermal paste to really make it final. I also have the cpu undervolted. The cpu idles in the low forties but the gpu gets hot eventually and drives up the total temperature until the gpu gets to 68C and the fan comes on. The benefit is that it takes a lot longer for the fan to come on. When I apply the new thermal paste I will make a guide.

 

Thanks Jamaicanyouth for taking the time and answering my question.

Looking forward to your guide!

 

I'm looking forward to your guide as well... so I can try it!

 

For some reason after doing the AC Ceramique, I'm idling in the mid 50's on 'High Performance'. I've applied it correctly, just seems odd that I'm almost running hotter now.

What are the rest of you all getting for High Performance idle temps?

 

50C is NOT hot at all!

 

no? under load, such as the windows performance index, I saw it hit 68c..

at what temp do they throttle?

 

What about 73-75C under High?

 

I hit upper 60's all the time under a load.

 

Guide should be up April 3, 2008.

 

Be aware that AS5 needs up to 200 hours and AS Ceramique 25 Hours, and several thermal cycles, to cure the compound and get the particles aligned to give maximum performance.

 

Your Joking?

 

Nope thats the truth.

 

No it's true, amongst many other things, I AS5'd the C2D in my desktop a year ago. Cycling the PC on and off 12 hours at a time, temps went steadily down over the period of almost a month, ended up about 6 degrees colder (from memory) under full load with cpuburn. Been stable ever since.

Can't compare it directly to any other paste as I changed so many things, but that should be the only explanation for the approx. 6 degree change.

 

Let's see some links on that... I'd like to read about it.

 

There would probably be a heap of links over at http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/index.php
I haven't been there for a while but used to hang out there a bit.

The AS5 website will say something about it too.

 

THANKS!