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    How to update Dell ATI drivers?

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by Zinu, Nov 30, 2009.

  1. Zinu

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    Hello,

    I just received my 1645, with HD4670 ofcourse.
    Now I was wondering what steps I have to take to update my driver to the newer version from ATI itself?

    I ran MobilityModder already. But what component do I have to remove first? And what is the step after that?

    I've always had NVIDIA cards, so I don't know nothing about ATI drivers :p Does ATI also require the removal of the older drivers first, after which you install the new one?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. gaah

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    In this case, you should uninstall your old drivers. On Programs and Features control panel, remove CATALYST Install Manager and CATALYST Control Panel if they are present, and anything else ATI or Radeon related. Then browse to C:\ATI\support\x and run setup.exe to install the modded drivers.
     
  3. Zinu

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    Is there a reboot necessary after uninstallation?

    And what's up with the memory setting in the MobilityModder program? It says something about if I have over 128MB RAM I should load some inf file. Since the card has 1GB, is there anything I should do?
     
  4. Synthesia

    Synthesia Notebook Evangelist

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    Is it actually necessary to get the latest ATI drivers? Aren't the ones supplied by Dell the best ones?

    And also, if it is necessary to get the latest updated drivers, is it necessary to get the modded ones or can't we just get the official drivers from the ATI website?

    I too am used to Nvidia graphics cards so not quite sure how it goes with ATI cards on laptops.
     
  5. gaah

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    ATI's official drivers aren't compatible with the Mobility series of cards. That's why modding is necessary. You can use Dell's but they are outdated and might not have the best performance and lack newer features, like Flash 10.1 beta hardware acceleration for example.
     
  6. MrVibe

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    This is a correct but incomplete statement, they are compatible and ati has told it in many interviews. This is just due to manufacturers choice like dell or hp etc.. and ati is just respecting their choices by not adding a full support of all mobility card into their official releases.
    i suggest using the driver sweeper tool to clean your install and the driver enhancer tools to put back your 4670 into an official release and install them.
     
  7. Dayton

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    You should be fine running the driver's from Dell. The main benefit of using the latest drivers from ATI is to try to address a compatibility issue with a program/game. Also you will get a few more resolutions made available.

    Installing the drivers straight from ATI/AMD will fail during the hardware check. So you have to remove this check by applying the Mobility Modder to them first, which is easy.
     
  8. Synthesia

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    Thanks for the info guys.

    So where (what sites exactly) can I get these latest (modded) drivers from? And where can I get that Mobility Modder from?
     
  9. chewyeong90

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  10. Dayton

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    Get the latest drivers from ATI/AMD's site. Get the Mobility Modder from:

    http://www.driverheaven.net/modtool.php

    Run the ATI installer to unpack the drivers. Cancel the install once it goes from unpacking the drivers to actually running setup. Run the mobility modder on the unpacked drivers. After modification is complete run setup from the unpacked driver location.
     
  11. Zinu

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    Anyone on that?
     
  12. scorpeeon

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    imho u don't risk much with a rebooting, so if u want to make sure everything will work fine, i'd do it.
    but i think it's not that important at all, i just overinstalled it to my official driver and everything works fine.
    i dunno about that "over 128MB RAM, load inf file" issue, i don't remember such thing. r u sure u downloaded tha latest mobilitymodder?
     
  13. Zinu

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    Yes, I am. Maybe you missed it. It's not right there on the start screen.
     
  14. ikjadoon

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    Hmm...I never got that when I installed my modded drivers.

    This is what I do:

    Uninstall from Programs/Features.
    Reboot.
    Don't let the system actually load Windows: go into Safe Mode and user a driver cleaner.
    Reboot.
    Install new drivers.
    Reboot.

    Done.
     
  15. eblock12

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    One thing that broke when I used the mobility modded drivers over the Dell drivers is the monitor hot-plug detection. With the Dell drivers it would instantly detect when I unplugged and plugged in an external monitor and automatically extend the desktop. Now I always have to extend or remove the display manually. Not really a big deal but I'll probably stick with Dell's drivers once they update theirs.
     
  16. chewyeong90

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    I just updated mine. I did not even uninstall on the first place. It performed an upgrade to the older version. After that, it asked for a reboot, I rebooted. Everything's good now.
    Drive sweeper, clean install and etc only when you're having problem. Otherwise,
    you don't have to be so hysterical about this.
     
  17. ryancouture

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    what about the driver install through windows update?

    it did it with my old nvidia

    does it not find ati drivers?
     
  18. Nick29

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    is it absolutely necessary to uninstall the original driver before installing the modded one? I didn't and don't seem to be having any problems, but i haven't done anything that would tax the GPU yet either.
     
  19. ryancouture

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    i thought these days when you run the setup it removes the old ones automatically

    guess its better to be safe
     
  20. Dayton

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    I usually don't do a remove before updating the drivers and I don't have a problem. Doing a remove first is more of a playing it safe approach. If you do run into trouble after an upgrade, not being able to access CCC is a common error, then doing a remove and driver clean before re-installing the new drivers will fix it.
     
  21. ryancouture

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    this "mobility modder"

    what...what is it??

    you download the catalyst drivers off the intraweb and alter them somehow?
     
  22. ryancouture

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    do nvidia people have to do something like this?

    whats the deal?

    so it takes desktop drivers and changes them into a quality mobile version?

    sounds fishy
     
  23. Heiji1412

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    ok but do nvidia people need to do this??

    and im not clear does that take DESKTOP 4670 drivers and turn them into mobility? or the mobility drivers already on ATI.com and just improve them?
     
  25. ikjadoon

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    They can do a similar *.inf mod, but nVidia is a bit better about updating their mobile GPU drivers.

    This takes desktop ATI drivers and ALL it does it allow them to be installed on a laptop. There is a file in ATI drivers which lists which GPU it was "built" for; on the desktop version, they are obviously no mobile GPUs listed. So this mod just adds a list of mobile GPUs to the "allowed" list.

    ~Ibrahim~
     
  26. ryancouture

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    but arent desktop and mobile gpu's completely different? the desktop 4670 and the mobility are totally different?

    oh well

    this things goin back anyway if they dont figure this sheet out
     
  27. scorpeeon

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    by nvidia they're pretty different in most cases (for instance gtx 260m has nothing to do with the desktop gtx 260, but it has the very same gpu desktop 9600gt and 8800gt uses), by ati, they're almost the same. the only difference between 4670 and mobility 4670 that the desktop 4670 has a bit higher clocks (u can still overclock ur mobility), that's all.
    moreover a gpu driver isn't built only for one gpu. it's practically for (almost) all gpus, these drivers are kind of universal drivers for all "not-too-old" ati gpus.
     
  28. Synthesia

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    Have any of you experienced an upgrade in performance with these beta ATI drivers? Anybody mind posting their before and after 3DMark scores?
     
  29. fxny12004

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    Does anybody know if device manager is supposed to state the new driver version....in this case being 9.9 as the ATI website states....

    because i unistalled ati cc, and modded the beta win 7 drivers, and installed them succesfully, but devic manager says i have 8.6 installed, which are the oem drivers...

    so confused... :confused:
     
  30. Heiji1412

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    Why did you mod the beta 7 drivers? The beta 7 Mobility ones are readily available, if you want to mod, get the latest desktop drivers.

    Did you also uninstall the actual Display Driver? Or just CCC? If in doubt, just uninstall, reboot in safe mode and give it a clean with Driver Sweeper, then install a fresh copy of the driver.

    I would check the driver date with DxDiag as a double check as to how recent the drivers are.
     
  31. ikjadoon

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    Dell's ATI drivers come up as 8.634.0.0

    :)
     
  32. Synthesia

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    Updated Modded ATI drivers and still get the ATIKMDAG errors and video crashing.
     
  35. quepuick

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    What should Device Manager say as the latest drivers for the ATI card?
     
  38. Zinu

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    Soo... has anybody tried the latest desktop drivers yet? 9.12 iirc...
     
  39. scorpeeon

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    sure, i always update to latest desktop drivers, i have 9.12 hotfix now, working fine, i have even opencl support now.
     
  40. malkie0831

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    Just installed the Catalyst 9.12 drivers on my SXPS 1645. The CC Information tab now shows:
    Driver Packaging Version 8.681-091124a-092499C-ATI
    Catalyst™ Version 09.12

    Device manager for the gfx card shows driver version 8.681.0.0

    Hope this helps.

    Still hasn't fixed my inactive hard key brightness controls mind you!
     
  41. daraj

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    You may want to try the new ATI 4670 driver from dell website listed under 1647 system. Its a newer version A12. I wonder why didnt they update the driver under the 1645 page.
     
  42. oozrafa

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    Have you got Dell Quickset installed? This should fix the issue with the inactive hard key brightness controls.
     
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    it's out since almost 2 weeks, but it's not installable on Mobility cards yet because Mobility Modder doesn't support it, they're working on a fix.
     
  45. DaSeppel

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    I downloaded the driver for the 1647 and tried to install it on my 1645. The setup told me the driver is up to date and finished the installation without any changes.
    I got the official 1645 ati driver installed.

    Hopefully it is soon possible to modify the newest drivers with the mobility modder.