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    I found a fool proof solution to reset battery wear to zero.

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by Paul67, Jul 6, 2019.

  1. Paul67

    Paul67 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have a XPS 9550 and a XPS 9350 and have reset the battery wear to zero on both using the same simple method:

    Let the laptop battery run down until it turns itself off (do not reboot into windows or boot into BIOS to drain the battery completely as this can actually increase battery wear), then leave laptop off for several hours - overnight even. Reconnect power cable and fully charge until white charging light goes off before powering on.

    That's all there is to it, job done!

    BTW some say you need to have the battery set to charge in Standard mode but I didn't. The 9550 was set to AC Primary and the 9350 set to Adaptive. Using the method above both successfully reset to zero battery wear regardless of the charge settings.
     
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    pressing Notebook Deity

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    What is the purpose of resetting the battery wear data?
     
  3. Paul67

    Paul67 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Resetting battery wear to zero allows the battery to be charged to its full capacity.
     
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    Paul67 Notebook Enthusiast

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    My 2016 XPS 9550 tuned up from John Lewis with 10% battery wear from new. I tried booting into BIOS running the battery down to completely empty and recharging and ended up with 14% battery wear.

    About 6 months after owning it I took my laptop to my parents house one weekend and used it it until it turned itself off. The following morning I put it to charge without turning it on. Sometime later after it was fully charged I turned it on and noticed the battery wear was magically zero.

    I didn't understand what I did to reset it back then, but accidentally doing the same thing again and noticing, then repeating the very same method on a second device surely conforms it?
     
  5. maffle

    maffle Notebook Evangelist

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    There is a default battery wear of 10% set in Dell bios, so a new laptop/battery will always have 10% minimum wear. Charging a battery to 100% is bad. Charging it to 80% instead of 100% makes it live about 30-40% longer.
     
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    Are you sure we are talking about the same thing? I am referring to battery 'wear', not the battery 'reserve' set in the BIOS.

    My first battery came with 10% wear out of the box however the second one fitted under warranty by a Dell technician in my home had zero wear from new.
     
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    Yes? Because both are the same. The bios reverse will be shown as battery wear in the OS.
     
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    Paul67 Notebook Enthusiast

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    My 9550 sits on my desk plugged in almost permanently and so is set as Primarily AC power. This setting lowers the charge threshold (sets a reserve in the BIOS) to extend the life of the battery.

    But regardless of that setting, some weeks the battery wear is reported as 14%. Other weeks it shows 2% or 8%. Re-calibrating the battery as I have sets the wear to zero even though I have not changed the 10% reserve set in the BIOS.
     
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    Surely leaving my laptop shut down when it hits its reserve, leaving it off for several hours, then recharging until the white light goes off does not and can not alter the reserve setting in the BIOS?

    Plus, if the battery wear showing in the OS is actually the reserve set in the BIOS why does it change its % value from week to week, rather than stick to 10% permanently?
     
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    Once it is properly detected though, the OS and BIOS will both not show as wear
     
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    Left mine on to run flat soon after I got it as it was on 8%, charged the next day and got 12%.
    The chip on the battery determines wear so I dunno what went wrong to reset it to zero but I know for fact it's never worked for me.
     
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    Hi, i've been using xps 9550 for four years and i don't really understand wear level. I'm using fedora and currently battery (one year old) wear level is 29% but it doen't reflect real battery wear as it's possible to run the laptop at 0% battery charge for one hout aprox. (for a total of 5 hours with a complete charge).

    I've tried several methods to calibrate like full depletion but it usually increases the 'fake' wear level. Sometimes wear level improves (two motnhs ago it was 31%, then it improved to 19% and right now i'm at 29%) but i've not been able to find any reason or method to reproduce the effect consistently.

    Maybe it's due to linux kernel/firmware. Just my two cents.
     
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    Battery life, charging cycles, wear level, etc are all variable features of laptop batteries. A lot of people confuse the characteristics of older rechargeable NiMH and NiCAD batteries which are no longer commonly used in laptops. Compared to Li-on batteries NiMH and NiCad did benefit from a full power discharge and recharge occasionally between normal usage. You could see real improvements in wear and overall life by fully discharging and charging the battery periodically.

    This is not always the case with Li-on, and it's just one of those practices/procedures people will continue to repeat because they think they are improving the battery. In truth, Li-on batteries are much more robust and do not require the various discharge and recharge cycling to maintain a long life. Rather, these types of batteries benefit most from NOT fully charging, and NOT fully discharging regularly. Full discharging a Li-on battery regularly will KILL it's life. Additionally, keeping a Li-on battery at 100% charge indefinitely will cause wear and kill it's overall life.

    A feature I use with Clevo laptops is Flexicharger. This takes the minimum and maximum charging limits away from Windows and controls through BIOS. You can set any min/max charging limit, I currently use 40% minimum and 80% maximum. So, once the battery reaches 40% it will begin charging up to 80% and then it will stop. It's a great feature for extending battery life and reducing wear from unnecessary charge cycles. You can disable it when you want to travel with the laptop and utilize 100% battery.

    As you'll find, the wear indication from Windows is really only a calculated guess. Depending on how you are using the battery, the value can change day to day! So, making a change and then seeing the value change is not really valid proof that anything happened in my opinion.
     
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    Mine was still 62% after doing this :(
     
  15. Drew1

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    Is there any risk of doing this?