Just ordered Dell XPS 15 9570, Can it handle Overwatch?

Hello everyone, I recently bought Dell XPS 15 9570, and just waiting for them to ship the laptop. However, I am kinda concern with laptop's performance, and not sure if it can handle overwatch.

The specs of the laptop are

GTX1050ti Max - Q (Why does Max-Q even exist for this graphics card?)
i7-8750H
16gb ram
Using Dell s2716dg via thunderbolt 3 port.

All I want is STABLE 142 fps at FHD with graphics setting everything low. I am aware of thermal issue of the laptop, so I am planning to change the thermal compound, thermal pad, and undervolt at the same time. Do you guys think the laptop can deal with Overwatch @ low setting and give me stable 142fps?

 

Hi Eorucign

The plans you have to repaste, pad and undervolt are going to help with the thermal issues if my machine is anything to go by, I'm pleased with my tweaks and it runs nicely so I'm guessing yours will be the same if not better. I'm not sure about Overwatch at that FPS settings to be honest though, wouldn't a better way to play this be to use an eGPU if you want to play it buttery smooth on your 27" screen? It's a lot to ask of something that is not a gaming laptop with a 1050ti in.

The only way I suppose this will be properly answered if is anyone has actually tried it themselves

 

Hahaha. Not a gaming laptop.

I see on Reddit some people can play Overwatch after some mods and with throttling. But others have crashing issues.

You might see some Overwatch screen shots from youtubers like "Dave2D" or "Western Gents United". Check this



Tally ho!

 

60fps on a 60hz screen might be ok and run well but have any of them played at those settings, 142fps on an external 27" 144hz screen as Eorucign wants to do?

Also, on the video what is it that keeps all the stats on the screen as he plays?

Good video, btw!

 

I was just going to put up. It's not a gaming laptop, not meant to be a gaming laptop. YOU Should go buy a gaming laptop.

 

I do understand it's not a gaming laptop. However, my old laptop - GTX970m + i7 4720HQ - was able to pull stable 144fps at the low setting, so I am kinda hoping for the something for XPS15 as well

 

Isn't 970M equivalent to 1050 Ti? But this is a Max-Q 1050 Ti on a computer with bad thermals. This laptop will run games worse than your old one.

 

GTX1050ti Max - Q isn't stronger than GTX 970m, but since it has 6 core cpu - and overwatch can use all 6 cores -, so I am kinda hoping that it can perform similarly. But again, the problem is thermals

 

why is it that in every thread of every forums there has to be a guy posting something like this?

The op did not ask whether this is a gaming laptop or not.

he merely asked if overwatch can be played at 142 fps on a 9570 laptop. it's a simple yes or no question.

And to answer OP's question, yes it's possible with low settings at 1080p. However there will be thermal throttling so an undervolt, repaste is highly recommended.

 

And I answered the Effing question! NO. if he want's blazing fast gaming performance, go buy a gaming laptop. SIMPLE.

What is worse is the guy who buys a device, and trying to use it for something it was not intended for and *****ing because it does not do what he/she wanted!

 

I was quite happy with the performance of my 9570 after putting in some work. I highly recommend undervolting and adding thermal pad between the ram and the bottom of the cover at the very least.

 

Will definitely do that! I am also planning to upgrade rams and ssd as well!

 

I see where you are coming from, but I do have few arguments for it. First, while my primary reason for buying such a high spec laptop (?) is to play Overwatch, at the same time, I use this laptop for my school work. Therefore, I am not really willing to buy a Gaming laptop that looks like designed by a 14-year-old kid. Second, recently, there are some gaming laptops that look very mature, however, they only come with 1-year global warranty, and this is somewhat deal breaker for me. If I am spending $2000 + on my laptop, I would like to have at least 2-year global warranty, and Dell comes with accidental coverage as well, so that's extra awesome. Last but not least, I will trashtalk to the laptop, IF IT DOES NOT PERFORM AS INTENDED. The laptop has GTX1050ti Max - Q and i7-8750H, which means while I do not expect to perform like GTX1080, I at least expect it to perform as stated. And if it doesn't, then there's a problem with the design of the laptop.

 

I'm afraid you are heading for trouble. Be warned that this laptop will not perform like what you would normally expect form GTX1050ti Max - Q and i7-8750H, because the cooling and possible the voltage regulators are underdesigned, Surely not from the factory, maybe will after tweaking. There is an obvious design problem and trade-off - it is designed to be thin and light and look "pro" and barely pass the short benchmarks with good scores.

 

So I should trash talk my my Jeep because I cannot fit a refrigerator in it to carry it home? That makes no sense, It’s not a gaming laptop, so trash talking it because you bought the wrong device is just idiotic, just as it would be idiotic for me to trash talk my Jeep for not being a pick up truck. But hey...peoples messed up logic never fails to shock me . I do get the gaming laptop design trend however. Get a razer, the only non gaudy gaming notebook.

 

Isn't that the major problem of this laptop then? As far as I know, XPS stands for Xtreme Performance System, but if it cannot perform as intended due to the design and want to look like "pro", then something is wrong with the laptop and should look into it immediately - especially if Dell is using the same chassis for Mobile Workstation as well.

 

Or maybe, If you have a sports car, but cannot run as fast as other sports cars that have the similar engine, due to it's designed, then yeah, maybe you should criticize about the car indeed. You are saying Overwatch is a game, so I should buy a gaming laptop, but it's not like I am going to play the game at 4k at epic setting, and expect to have 144fps all the time. However, if the laptop has GTX1050ti Max - Q and i7-8750H, it should handle overwatch at the lowest setting if the laptop can cool it's component properly. If can't then there is some design flaws. Moreover, if a similarly equipped nongaming laptop can run overwatch while XPS can't then there's room for criticism. Moreover, as you said peoples messed up logic never fails to shock me as well

 

Dell forgot the meaning of XPS a long time ago. Azor recently tweeted these are not intended to take full load on the CPU and the GPU at once. I'm just curious why they don't declare it in the specs somewhere in fine print at least. But they are still selling like hot cakes and obviously not enough folks complain. Most folks don't even notice they're throttling, or buy them for good looks and use them for FB and browsing Kardashians. And eventually Dell spends time on making 2-in-1s, which are even worse, rather than fixing cooling in the 9570

 

Hah lots of fun going on in here. I agree that if the XPS comes with a high end CPU and a decent video card, it should be able to use them both at the same time. Going back to the jeep thing, it's like saying "oh you can use the rear locker, but only in 2wd so you don't stress out the transfercase too much."

Read my thermal thread. Undervolt it, repaste it, pad it, and it will perform pretty well.

 

Will do! Thank you!

 

hahaha. The 9570 performs as Dell intended.

In plain English, that means in the 9570, one should expect both the Intel and nVidia chips WILL significantly underperform their respective marketing specs.

If you have any doubts, there are thousands of posts for reference here for the similar 9550, 9560, and 9570.

 

Good.

Then you can let us know if the XPS can handle Overwatch (or not) as we are all sitting here with baited breath waiting for the answer!

 

Ok now it's a month since your initial post so I'm pretty positive that you already did the job and played overwatch
Still you gave no feedback on the thermal fix advice and on the nb capability
So I registered here (!) from Russia (!!) and I'm kindly asking you to close the topic for the sake of the hole planet at least by saying if it manages overwatch on minimal settings cause it's a disaster otherwise
Also if anyone knows why the crappy non-gaming xps 9570 is brilliant on Western Gents United video

Thx

 

My brief comments on the XPS 9570... Had 1 with the i7 8750H and returned due to constantly crashing within hours of receiving it. Also thermal issues.
Had 1 i9, returned it for the same reasons as the i7. Had another i9, while rather stable after resolving some Win 10 issues, ran very hot and thermal throttled. This one also went back to Dell and was the nail in the coffin for me.

I believe Dell did what Apple ended up doing with the new MBP 18 and just threw in a faster processor without engineering proper cooling. The 4k display was superb, and the build seemed nice. However, this laptop had way too many instability issues and with a price tag of almost $3k should not have the thermal crippling.

 

No overwatch results, but some thermal fix info:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/dell-xps-15-9570-benchmarks-temps.817970/

 

Haha sorry for the late reply, I've been still testing, adjusting my Dell XPS 15, and I came to the conclusion that "yes, you can get 144fps on Overwatch with XPS 15", but it's a long process." Like every XPS 15, you gotta change the thermal compound and apply thermal pads on VRM, as well as undervolt both the CPU and the GPU. (I also underclocked the cpu for more stable performance) Then, you gotta delete "intel dynamic platform and thermal framework" to prevent premature throttling. After all this process, yes, I am finally getting stable 144fps on Overwatch.

 

Is xps 15 fhd screen 120Hz? I don think so.

 

No but I believe he is playing on an external screen that is 120+hz

 

Are you able to use G-Sync with an external monitor without an eGPU? I have a S2417DG which is almost identical to your S2716DG only slightly smaller. You game a 1920x1080 and not 2560x1440 right?

 

Not with the XPS AFAIK but with other laptops it can work

 

Sorry for the late reply. No i am not able to use G-sync by GTX 1050ti Max-Q. I am not entirely sure but I think only GTX1060 or above supports g-sync because my old Gigabyte Aero 14 wasn't able to use G-sync as well. However, oddly enough, My friend's Surface Book 2 with GTX 1060 wasn't able to use G-sync as well.

 

Thank you

 

Hey,
What are your settings for the game please ?
Thanks in advance

 

1920x1080 144hz
All low
Rendering scale - 75%