L502X + SSD + Bootup Problem

I hope someone can help, here's my prob:

Got an L502x, Vertex 3 SSD and Win 7 x64. All been working fine for months, had the original well documented hanging issue but reg fix sorted that.

Regularly close the lid and put it to sleep without shutting it down. Always came out of sleep without a problem, never hung, everything fine.

Until today that is.

Opened my laptop today and logged in, then it hung, nothing worked. Couldnt do anthing, had no choice but to hold the power button.

Rebooted to error ' No Operating System Found', then restarted and no HD was available so it tried to boot from network. HD not showing in the bios. Tried several things inc booting from windows disc and trying repair (no good because HD not there), removing HD, loads of reboots.

Finally for no apparent reason booted up fine. Couple of hours later crashed with some strange BSOD. Same problem, cant get the f**ker back up and running now.

The strange thing is when booting (or trying to boot) and the xps logo with the blue bar is on the screen it goes really really slowly where ordinarily this take 2 secs.

I thought maybe a windows update had changed something as ive not done anything else.

Thoughts? HD? MB?

Someone please help me

Thanks

Gaz

 

I had a smiliar experience with my vertex 2 but on a different laptop. I also have the vertex 3 on my dell now no problems so far. reminds me again to make backups....... I would not trust the Vertex3 anymore if was I was you. I think its a defective drive.

You can try putting the v3 in a different laptop to see if the bios finds it. if not get it xchanged. good luck!

 

I took the hd out, booted up without it, shutdown, plugged it back in and now im up and running again.

Hmm, something stinks somewhere. lets see how long it is before it goes off again. nothing in the event viewer though.

 

Best of luck to you! It's threads like these that are making me lean towards Crucial or Intel for my impending SSD purchase.

 

Next time I'd go for Crucial too. Vertex is blazing but fickle

 

Opened it up today, logged in, crashed, BSOD.

What the **** is wrong with this thing?

Is it a faulty drive? Any OCZ/SSD tools that can check?

 

I installed a Crucial M4 128GB . No problems here, no need for any drivers during install (in fact I'm using MS ahci standard drivers) or any registry tweeks.. No locking or any other problems.Sleep and Hibernation works fine.

 

What BSOD errors are you getting?

If you have any way of getting a replacement/refund at this point, I would do so.

 

Getting the F4 BSOD.

Tried redoing the reg tweak, tried the new intel drivers, nothings working.

Crashes out of sleep. boots up normally sometimes and then randomly bsods.

I need to know if it's the drive or windows or intel or dell.

If it's the drive i'll RMA the b*tch asap but id like to image it and put it onto a new drive but worried that will dupe the problem.

NoSlow5oh thoughts?

 

What are these intel drivers im seeing on OCZ forum version 10.5.0.1026.

I've installed 10.1.2.1004 ??

 

I'm certainly no expert where SSD units are concearned, but I thought the golden rule of using an SSD with Windows is not to put the machine to sleep.
I have a Vertex III in my Dell XPS 17 and I've had no issues with it once I got it working in AHCI mode in the bios and using the right driver in Win 7.
But I'm not saying that your SSD unit isn't defective....but I wouldn't use hte sleep mode. Is there any reason to? My Vertex III equipped system boots and shuts down in such little time scales.

 

If you have an extra usb external hdd laying around, clone the drive to the external and boot from it. See what happens. If you need a cloning utility, Easeus Todo Backup works great for cloning to dissimlar bootable hardware. Don't even worry about taking out the vertex, just change the boot options in the bios.

And by all means, if you have sensitive/critical data on your vertex, back it up to something before you possibly lose everything.

 

Hi,

I'm setting up the same rig, but still cannot boot in AHCI. It seems that I cannot install recognized drivers for Intel RST. Could you please let me know which ones you used ?


Thanks for your help

 

I should get my Vertex 3 tomorrow. Any advice on doing the clean install of Win7? Are there any BIOS changes I have to make? I got the driver/utility install order list from the Owner's Lounge, but I don't want to start the install of Win7 and get to a puzzlng choice, as access to another coomputer to read up on the problem is not easy here in Iraq.

 

1. Download latest Intel Rapid Storage Tech driver v.10.1.2.1004, A01 from Dell website and extract to root of thumb drive.

2. Download latest Intel WiFi driver from Dell website and copy to thumb drive.

3. Update BIOS if necessary (A05 was latest) and make sure SATA is set to AHCI mode.

4. Install Windows 7 Ultimate as follows:
a) Edit BIOS to make DVD 1st in boot order.
b) Boot with Windows DVD inserted.
c) When prompted, select "Load Driver", insert thumb drive and browse to Intel driver.

5. After Windows is installed, install the WiFi driver from thumb drive to gain internet access.

6. Use Registry fix to disable LPM Command for SSD from here:
Solution: C300 Disk Freeze-ups in Windows 7 solved... - Crucial Community

7. Verify Device Manager->IDE ATA Controllers shows Intel SATA AHCI Driver

8. Follow SSD Optimization Guide at...
http://thessdreview.com/ssd-guides/optimization-guides/the-ssd-optimization-guide-2/

9. Install drivers in the order listed at:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/del...15-r2-l502x-owners-lounge-37.html#post7415385

10. Perform all necessary Windows Updates (including Service Pack 1)


XPS 15 L502x | i7 2720QM | 1080p | GT 540M | 120GB Vertex 3 MaxIOPs| 500GB in Caddy | 8GB RAM | 6230 + BT | BL KB | TV Tuner | 9 Cell

 

Not to hijack your thread, but I have the same problem with a C300.

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033

Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: f4
BCP1: 0000000000000003
BCP2: FFFFFA800790BB30
BCP3: FFFFFA800790BE10
BCP4: FFFFF80002FD9F40
OS Version: 6_1_7601
Service Pack: 1_0
Product: 256_1

Files that help describe the problem:
C:\Windows\Minidump\052411-23010-01.dmp
C:\Users\Erick\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-30638-0.sysdata.xml

MODULE_NAME: csrss

FAULTING_MODULE: 0000000000000000

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 0

PROCESS_OBJECT: fffffa800790bb30

IMAGE_NAME: csrss.exe

CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT

BUGCHECK_STR: 0xF4

CURRENT_IRQL: 0

STACK_TEXT:
fffff880`073370e8 fffff800`0305e7d2 : 00000000`000000f4 00000000`00000003 fffffa80`0790bb30 fffffa80`0790be10 : nt+0x7fd00
fffff880`073370f0 00000000`000000f4 : 00000000`00000003 fffffa80`0790bb30 fffffa80`0790be10 fffff800`02fd9f40 : nt+0x4077d2
fffff880`073370f8 00000000`00000003 : fffffa80`0790bb30 fffffa80`0790be10 fffff800`02fd9f40 00000000`00000086 : 0xf4
fffff880`07337100 fffffa80`0790bb30 : fffffa80`0790be10 fffff800`02fd9f40 00000000`00000086 fffffa80`0790bb30 : 0x3
fffff880`07337108 fffffa80`0790be10 : fffff800`02fd9f40 00000000`00000086 fffffa80`0790bb30 fffff800`0300cbdb : 0xfffffa80`0790bb30
fffff880`07337110 fffff800`02fd9f40 : 00000000`00000086 fffffa80`0790bb30 fffff800`0300cbdb ffffffff`ffffffff : 0xfffffa80`0790be10
fffff880`07337118 00000000`00000086 : fffffa80`0790bb30 fffff800`0300cbdb ffffffff`ffffffff fffffa80`0866c7f0 : nt+0x382f40
fffff880`07337120 fffffa80`0790bb30 : fffff800`0300cbdb ffffffff`ffffffff fffffa80`0866c7f0 fffffa80`0790bb30 : 0x86
fffff880`07337128 fffff800`0300cbdb : ffffffff`ffffffff fffffa80`0866c7f0 fffffa80`0790bb30 fffffa80`0790bb30 : 0xfffffa80`0790bb30
fffff880`07337130 ffffffff`ffffffff : fffffa80`0866c7f0 fffffa80`0790bb30 fffffa80`0790bb30 ffffffff`ffffffff : nt+0x3b5bdb
fffff880`07337138 fffffa80`0866c7f0 : fffffa80`0790bb30 fffffa80`0790bb30 ffffffff`ffffffff 00000000`00000008 : 0xffffffff`ffffffff
fffff880`07337140 fffffa80`0790bb30 : fffffa80`0790bb30 ffffffff`ffffffff 00000000`00000008 fffffa80`0790bb30 : 0xfffffa80`0866c7f0
fffff880`07337148 fffffa80`0790bb30 : ffffffff`ffffffff 00000000`00000008 fffffa80`0790bb30 00000000`c0000005 : 0xfffffa80`0790bb30
fffff880`07337150 ffffffff`ffffffff : 00000000`00000008 fffffa80`0790bb30 00000000`c0000005 fffffa80`0866c7f0 : 0xfffffa80`0790bb30
fffff880`07337158 00000000`00000008 : fffffa80`0790bb30 00000000`c0000005 fffffa80`0866c7f0 fffff800`02f8f838 : 0xffffffff`ffffffff
fffff880`07337160 fffffa80`0790bb30 : 00000000`c0000005 fffffa80`0866c7f0 fffff800`02f8f838 ffffffff`ffffffff : 0x8
fffff880`07337168 00000000`c0000005 : fffffa80`0866c7f0 fffff800`02f8f838 ffffffff`ffffffff 00000000`00000001 : 0xfffffa80`0790bb30
fffff880`07337170 fffffa80`0866c7f0 : fffff800`02f8f838 ffffffff`ffffffff 00000000`00000001 fffffa80`0790bb30 : 0xc0000005
fffff880`07337178 fffff800`02f8f838 : ffffffff`ffffffff 00000000`00000001 fffffa80`0790bb30 00000000`00000008 : 0xfffffa80`0866c7f0
fffff880`07337180 ffffffff`ffffffff : 00000000`00000001 fffffa80`0790bb30 00000000`00000008 ffffffff`746c6644 : nt+0x338838
fffff880`07337188 00000000`00000001 : fffffa80`0790bb30 00000000`00000008 ffffffff`746c6644 fffff880`07337200 : 0xffffffff`ffffffff
fffff880`07337190 fffffa80`0790bb30 : 00000000`00000008 ffffffff`746c6644 fffff880`07337200 00000000`00000000 : 0x1
fffff880`07337198 00000000`00000008 : ffffffff`746c6644 fffff880`07337200 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0xfffffa80`0790bb30
fffff880`073371a0 ffffffff`746c6644 : fffff880`07337200 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`02ad0e90 : 0x8
fffff880`073371a8 fffff880`07337200 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`02ad0e90 00000000`02ad08d0 : 0xffffffff`746c6644
fffff880`073371b0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`02ad0e90 00000000`02ad08d0 00000000`0010001f : 0xfffff880`07337200


STACK_COMMAND: kb

FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

BUCKET_ID: WRONG_SYMBOLS

Followup: MachineOwner
---------

 

I never did install RST. In Rogo's post he says it's for RAID systems. And from the C300 post, it sounds like LPM is an issue with RST.

I'm not seeing any issues with my Vertex 3.

When I installed it I forgot to remove and short the CMOS battery. Win7 installed just fine, but my WEI stayed at 5.9. I then removed the battery (I hadn't snapped the palmrest back on yet) and let it sit while I repasted the heatsinks. After reassembly WEI now shows 7.9, and still no problems. (and no spare parts!)

Are there any other reasons to use RST? I haven't done any benchmarks yet, as I'm not sure which the most common one is, one that everyone will be able to relate to. Any advice?

 

I got the idea from this post here...
http://forum.notebookreview.com/7405176-post33.html

...which is taken from...
http://forum.notebookreview.com/del...-xps-17-l702x-vertex-3-ssd-2.html#post7405176


Also, I've read on other forums that people are reporting improved performance with Intel RST (F6 driver) vs the default Win 7 driver for Vertex 3 in AHCI mode. Aside from that, one has to wonder why the Intel RST driver is posted in the L502x Drivers & Downloads section on the Dell website for a system that only has 1 drive (and therefore no RAID)?

I did not short the CMOS either, however, Windows reported a WEI Primary Hard Disk score of 7.9 immediately.

In your case, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

XPS 15 L502x | i7 2720QM | 1080p | GT 540M | 120GB Vertex 3 MaxIOPs| 500GB in Caddy | 8GB RAM | 6230 + BT | BL KB | TV Tuner | 9 Cell