L702x Price Point.

After the Dell CES announcements last week focusing on the new models - Alienware M17x R3 and the XPS 17 L702x, the M17x is now available to buy.

The launch price for the M17x in the UK is ridiculously high and has no dual GPU option and the famed RGB screen has also gone.

If the same logic is applied to the L702x then it may be wise to jump in now and grab one of the current L701x bargains, upto £600 off at present.

Just a thought.

 

Yes.I think with XPS will be the same thing.Ridiculously high starting price.Expensive 3D options.If i remember correct the both M17 and XPS 17 at the CES has bin anonced with price at 1600 $ .I think eventually the price will drop after monts or two.But personally i have enough of waitig.May just go with current XPS.But may be this is the price when you whant the best of the best ,always new.Waiting .But i reach my limits.Stop waiting time buying.

 

I don't know what the exact cost in other countries are but the starting point for the M17x-R3 in the USA is $1499 and the starting point for the SB XPS 17 will be $1449. At that point Dell just killed a lot of sales for the XPS in the USA as a lot of people will ante up the extra $50 for the R3.

 

Bad news: very bad news!

I rang Dell Sales / CS asking after the price of the L702x in respect to my order (laying it on thick - "Since I've ordered the top spec model of the 701x, is there any way I could upgrade it further? 1080p screen perhaps?" and "Well, I don't want to have to return this if the 702x is more what I want, I know you can't give specific numbers, but roughly how much more will the 702x cost from my order")

Sales rep stated that the price difference on my order would only be £80 - 120 more for a comparable 702x model! The issue here is whether he's just working on the US dollar pricing as a conversion, or actual UK figures.


Currently on the line to multiple Dell managers to get myself an answer -

 

I'd like to know how this turns out. I canceled my 15 order yesterday so I could wait it out on the new model (also in the UK) and any rough idea on the 17 should also be proportional to the 15

 

Well, I spent the time to talk to another sales rep, and another customer services.

Bottom line - they apparently haven't got the numbers in their systems at the moment, and aren't allowed to give exact details even if they did know.

Sales rep #2 promised to talk to marketing & try and get me a figure, and let slip that their systems generally get updated with new sales models / deals a week prior to launch.

At the moment, I'm rather torn - my deal was a good one, but if getting a 1080p screen / R3 is a possibility without paying much more, then... arrgh!


Logically, the Dell model would be to price the L702x like it has done with the 701x, with the top end features [3d screen, 450m GPU etc] at way higher price points; unfortunately, sales rep #1 seemed to state the complete opposite!

I've got (roughly) until the 27th to return the machine I've ordered - I'm hoping that this will be enough time for either the sales' reps to have their software updated (and I can easily sweet talk them into telling me!) or there's a more general leak.


Where's Wikileaks when you need them?

 

Be careful, I think thay can charge you the 15% restocking fee if you don't have a valid reason for return.

 

I'm pretty sure in th UK you can return the machine for a full refund within 7 days of receipt, without any reason. You only have to pay around £20 return shipping, nothing else.

Anybody had to return a laptop in this way, do Dell make the process intentionally awkward ?

 

The new XPS $1449 is about $500 more than the L701x on base models.
So Dell will probably increase the new L702x by £500 in the UK as they seem to think 1 Dollar = 1 Pound.

Rumours of an M18x Alienware also look justified as the M17x-R3 looks to be a bit of a step down from the R2.

 

I don't think they'll sell if they price them that high, not only would an Alienware be a valid alternative to an XPS, but other companies put out comparable products to that in the UK for less than that and the other companies products look better. At the moment I think the XPS works in the UK because it's cheaper and higher specc than the other options, but if there's an increase of anything like £500... people just won't pay that for what is in the end a Dell, still considered quite a budget brand in quite alot of respects.

 

like siren said, here in the UK you only have to pay a £20 return fee

 

Just a little comparison.As i wrote in other post.
Alienware USA - $1,499.00 / EU - 1 999,00 €
---Intel® Core™ i7 2720QM 2.2GHz (3.3GHz Turbo Mode, 6MB Cache) Add $150.00
---Intel® Core™ i7 2720QM (2.20Ghz, 6MB, 4C)-- ajouter 310,00 €
Make you conclusions for XPS.But in the EU have M17 R3 and R2 both on the sale.In USA R2 is totaly replaced by R3.Maybe this can explains the difference in price.But changing the CPU from I7 2630 to i7 2720 is 150$ agaisnt 310€.Same CPU ,different markets, HUUUGEE price difference. This is unexplainable for me.For you ???

 

oh wow, the Dollar is worth less than the Euro, yet it costs less dollars then euros, what a con.

 

You don't have to pay any fee. The only cost is postage and packaging.

 

Being a rather cynical old bird, I strongly suspect that the UK market in 702x will be: a) priced at equal or just below the Alienware models and b) scale up into £1600 territory for models using the 3D screen / 450M.

You can notice that Dell actively preclude / discourage / protect their brand on the alienware laptops (even x15) in Dell outlet store, coupons etc to retain the minimum sale banding of circa £1400-1500 - quite deliberate of them!

I'll be cutting it quite fine on launch dates & will have to rely on "smarm n charm" of nice indian men in Dell UK sales (it helps if you play the "just like your mother" card - has gotten me x2 direct line extensions, promises to call me personally, check with other departments & promises to keep me updated as soon as their own systems update... Indian men still revere their mothers, bless them), but I might be able to finesse an upgrade sale (bridge.. gosh, yes, I'm that old) or at the very least some wiggle room.


We'll see - the upgrade the screen thread is looking promising; with x2 2 gig ram @ roughly £50 total, and a new screen @ £92 I think I can future proof the "top of the range" 701x I've ordered quite nicely, all under £1200, which was my total budget.


Anyone got any data on the differences between the 445M & 450M that's being offered in the 702x? I'm not up to date on current graphics, but is the jump of +5 digits actually a huge step forward? If it isn't, I'll be even less inclinced to change the deal I got.

 

The new GPU I for the L702x will be the GT 555M (or similar GT 5 series) I think. This uses the same core as the current GT 455M but has slightly higher clock speeds.

The magic number is a speed increase of a meagre 9%.

To me the L701x is looking better and better.

Oh, and the new base model M17x R3 starts at £1799 in the uk, that's around $2700 US. If the new XPS has a similar price policy they won't sell any !

 

On Eric G.'s blog he states "the new laptops have the MXM slot" which leaves a possibility of an upgraded video card. MXM is designed for replacing just the GPU instead of the whole motherboard I think, but it does make it probable that it could be fitted with GT 460M. It would probably work considering the GT 460M is almost identical to the GT 445M architecture. I think this makes it a huge step forward, possibly stepping a little more an Alienwares toes. Say hello to the XPS L702X (Updated) - Dell News, Tips & Tricks

 

I don't know is it worth the risk.Read little about this.And look little risky.If i had older laptop.No problemo.I will try.But buying new and eventually to broke it trying to do that.For me noth worth.From where can buy mobile 460gtx.
GT 555 looks very nice 9% faster than gt 445.But unfortunately will come packed with expensive xps 17 model with 3D.I wonder if there will be option with gt 555 and without 3D.This will drop the price with 200€ or 300€ and that will make it more reasonable

 

The GT 555M is the same card with different clock speeds, the 445M can be clocked the same as the 555M or a lot higher. My 445M is oced 10% faster than the 555M. Dell has the GTX 460M for its Alienware M17X R3 incoming so that's one source.

 

Yes you are right.I read some spec and preview.And find that the bigest plus in the 555 is 192 bit memory bus in all models,while the GT445 may have 128 or 192 bit.Depending on the used ram DDR or GDDR.But funny thing that is only model i know with this GPU is XPS l701 and he has 192 bit bus and DDR3.I am curious who and how deside how to mix this specs.Dell or Nvidia.
So the 192 bit bus is not advatige any more as only known GT445 model has it.
The only one plus left is 100 mhz up to memory.But thats not the change that deserve how new name on it.

 

i was pretty much set for L702X as soon as it comes out...
but lowering M17x price tag and rumors of increasing xps 17 price tag are confusing me now....

 

Dell sales called me back and offered the following information:

UK launch of 702x won't include the HD screen; this option will only come available at roughly end of Feb (I'd been pressing this fairly strongly as major sale reason for not going with my current order)

UK prices - again, he didn't have the list and cannot divulge information, but he said roughly £100 more expensive for the newer model - I presume this is the listed sales price [i.e. full price] rather than the discount rates, however both sales reps had my order open in front of them, and seemed to be referring to the price I paid rather than the listed price.


I'm even more concerned now...

 

I'm calling them back tomorrow as regards to be XPS 15 canceled order and the reason for that being the L502 so I might be able to get a little infomation about the new models then as on my answering machine they seem pretty desperate for me to buy another dell product rather them give me my money back.

 

I think the biggest factor that is being forgot here is the fact that the L702x's will have the second generation of i7 processors, thus enabling support for Optimus, ON TOP of the fact that the new i7 has dedicated video Enc/Decode chip space (see: blue ray).

My biggest interest in this laptop is the potential battery performance. Its not an oxymoron to want 3D power and battery life. That way I can travel, work and watch movies on battery, but plug in when I want to fire up a game.

I just wish they would do something about the 9-cell protruding

 

I priced out an Alienware m17x R3 for the hell of it. The 3D LCD is a $350 option! Wow. I hope it's not that much on the L702x.

 

I read that if you get the 3D display, Optimus will be disabled.

 

If Optimus is disabled will the laptop switch between the integrated Intel GPU and the discrete nVidia GT 555M?

 

no, it won't

 

anyone know if there will be an option to get a 1080p screen that is NOT 3D?

 

Yes, there will be three or four options from what I know:

Standard 1600*900 screen
FHD 1900*1080 screen
FHD 1900*1080 touch screen
FHD 1900*1080 3D screen

 

When I bought my XPS 17 I asked a Dell rep why there was an instant reduction on prices of £170-£220 considering it had only just been released and I was told that the prices were meant to be for another model that wasn't released. Whether this means they never meant to do the original XPS and those prices were based on the price of the L702 I don't know but it would make a little sense. Still a guess but no other models had been rumoured and SB did take longer than everyone expected so maybe Dell compromised.

 

The L702x will it have more than 1 usb 3.0 port? Also, how long before the next update summer?

 

The Feb. 1st release date that is put out for the L702x XPS 17, is that for United States only?

Or will the Canadian site get the XPS 17 w/SB the same day?

 

Speculation is that it'll have more than 1 USB 3.0

No idea about Canadian release date. Although, like previously discussed, it doesn't seem like there will be a release on the 1st here in the US.. My bet is closer to the third week in feb, or second week of march

 

If you select the proper bundle it is in fact only an extra $100