Looking to buy a XPS 9560; Some questions

Im intrested in the XPS 9560 with the following configuration:

Intel Core i7-7700HQ
Windows 10 Home (64 bits)
DDR4 8 GB 2400 MH (unknown if 2 x 4GB or 1 x 8GB, is it important?)
PCIe 256
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 GDDR5 4 GB
Full HD (1920 x 1080) InfinityEdge 15,6"
US keyboard
Fingerprint scanner
Wi-Fi Killer 1535 802.11ac 2 x 2 y Bluetooth 4.1
56 W/h battery

1.628 €

The most important part is that I already have a 500GB SATA SSD. Can I install it and use it in this XPS? Id either remove the other one or just leave it there

 

While that build comes with the smaller 56whr battery it likely doesn't come with the required cable to fit the 2.5" ssd. The stock SSD is a m.2 SSD so you can run both of them at the same time.

Here is a link to info on the part numbers for the bracket/cable:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/part-number-for-the-new-xps-15-skylake-sata-cable.783834/

I would order it and if it doesn't have the cable order that after since I haven't a clue if it comes with the cable or not. Someone here may know though.

 

Its sickening that Dell doesnt include it. Its a ****ing cable with a adapter. At most 30 bucks to them. The ****ing fingerprint adapter cost less.

They are asking for a 160 euro bump if I get the 512 instead of 256 lol....Are you kidding me?

Its not that I dont believe you but can someone confirm this?

 

No offense taken. They didn't offer the cable/mounting in the 9550 with the smaller battery and SSD, but I have no idea about the 9560.

The 512GB comes with the larger 97whr battery.

 

Why should they, why would they? it will put the price up at the end of the day. It may cost them £10 for the cable and mounting frame but you have overheads buying spares and anyone on ebay is making a decent profit. Just buy a decent spec to start with, bigger battery and NVMe drive or buy an inspiration if the price is a problem.
No offence of course

 

Because, Mr Dell employee, every Dell laptop Ive bought in the past (Latitude, Precision) has had the connection and the mount to install it, even with NVMe as stock.

Why would I want to spend 160 euros more when I have a perfectly good SSD here that not only cost me less than that but works in perfect condition? Makes no sense.

 

For a start I am not a Dell employee, lets not go down that path, And a NVMe drive is at least 3 times faster to do the laptop some justice.

 

Cut the philosophy, there are many things that don't make sense When I bought the 9550, an option with the smaller battery without a HDD didn't exist. I wanted two bays, so I bought the HDD version and replaced the cache 32GB flash drive with a Samsung 850 pro m.2. So I've got the cable and will probably replace the HDD with a SATA SSD, and use the HDD for backup.
It is a quite common thing that components you've got don't fit into a new laptop. Then you can either try finding one that accepts your old components, or sell them. The XPS is quite limited in this regards because it is designed to be as thin and light as possible, so there are many trade-offs, plus Dell seems to optimize by offering a very limited number of configurations (not to mention that even this way they don't seem to be able to test all the drivers before releasing them).

 

Uh oh, I think I hit a soft spot...

160 euro is not worth it for my usage. If it was CAD or maybe I was all day/all night using my laptop (using it at most 6 hours weekdays), then sure, of course. But not even half a day? It isnt worth it.

This is what I was looking for BUT it doesnt come with a i7...The price different between the i5 and i7 doesnt even reach 80 euros I think. THAT upgrade is worth it.

Yeah, like RAM, storage.....oh wait...

Old components? I was unaware that SATA 3.x is "old".

 

You didn't hit a soft spot but I enjoy firing insults back with the best of them. Couldn't see the point starting another flame war.

 

I did get the i7 with the HDD option in the 9550 at the time. It wasn't exactly the configuration I'd want (wasn't available with FHD panel), nor exactly cheap, XPS generally isn't. Some dealers do swap some parts; mine would only add components, such as the additional SSD.

Regarding the i7, mind it does look better on paper, while in practice it is mostly faster only if you repaste, and even after repasting it is likely to get downthrottled if both CPU and GPU are fully loaded.

> Yeah, like RAM, storage.....oh wait...
> Old components? I was unaware that SATA 3.x is "old"

Well, exactly. DDR4 from 9550 does fit into 9560, but 9550 shipped with clock 2133 while 9560 with 2400. You might've had 32GB "performance" DDR3 from a previous laptop and you wouldn't want to stick it in. My Samsung 950 pro m.2 NVMe SSD was top **** half a year ago, now you can't buy it in a shop anymore, superseded with faster 960 pro. SATA SSDs are old tech, period. In slim laptops, m.2 is obviously an advantage, and most seem to prefer a bigger battery to a second drive if both is no go. Stop whining here, sell that SATA SSD, or get that cable and bracket on ebay but you will likely regret it in a year or two.

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19992358

 

I did do some benchmarks with the 32gb kit from a 9550 in a 9560, along with the 2400 9560 kit. It has a dedicated thread somewhere in this section. Not enough in it if you can bag a cheap 2133 kit.

 

Laughable. Your 'soft spot' is the fact that Gonzo is probably the single most helpful person on the Dell forum and is constantly critical of Dell so you just look ridiculous.

 

This thread is closed, since it's essentially one big argument that is going nowhere.

Argue the facts, the minute you go off and start dealing with people on a personal level is when things will likely go wrong (and did, in this case).

Charles