I will not purchase one with a 8400GS.. that way it wont overheat and fry the motherboard. you have valid points with regards to the x1950pro. But until a more detailed step by step mod comes out, i don't feel confident to attempt it myself.
Dell are about to release a new laptop, but its a matter of when? It really have p.issed me off that the build quality of the laptop has allowed it to screw up. Maybe if Dell just did what KenHT did everyone would be happy?
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got my mainboard replaced.
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ok for those who are interested in my temps
i bought a cheap cooling pad off dealextreme, cost me $11
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Just found quite a few people posted the prob. on Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkw47rprZU8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HedG0xrYKB8&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCAyUGxTzc4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euEKCLuYyfc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MohFVdzQHDc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgTDXgFbHvk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II23pavSeLI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TG8qVv1g9c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmtLKwATC1Y&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21i3H4PFCTM&feature=related
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Are there any solutions other than moddng HSF?
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I'm afraid there's nothing you can do besides the famous copper modd. Honestly, that's not that big of a modd. It's very easy to do. Thing is, there hasn't been much time since people started using the copper modd and you can't tell if it solves the heat issue or not.
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How of many of you upgraded to the A10 revision of BIOS firmware before this happened to you?
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So, people, I have the same problem as you have - The magical color lines. I am using Bios A11 since yesterday, was using A09 before that. Color lines seemed to apper almost whenever they "wanted" to. For example today i put my laptop on Sleep (yes, I DID wait untill it "fell asleep" properly) then came to work, opened the lid - voila!! The magnificient color-lined picture.
I called XPS Premium support for a minute ago and after some talks to people from India I got a tecnician sent to me tomorrow (I have this next-business-day warranty).
The dude will change my mobo which hopefully will help. (What I really hope for is that it will reduce the CPU-whine as well. I am not suffering of it a lot since it is bearly heard, but still)
What I hope will *not* happen is that the whine will become louder :-D
I will post the results as soon I will get the new motherboard.
PS: People, what about using the "copper-plate-mod" but putting a SILVER plate instead? If I remember correctly silver has better thermal conductivity...Attached Files:
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Hmmm, well taking a look at the thermal conductivity for silver and copper at room temperature, shamelessly taken from wikipedia
Silver: 429 W/m/K
Copper: 401 W/m/K
Units: W = Watts, m = metre, K = kelvin (1 unit in Kelvin is the same as 1 unit in Celsius)
So looking at the size of the metal shim required, (around 15x15mm x 1.5mm thick) the increase in thermal conductivity by using silver would probably be negligible.
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I've experience some weird shocks off my metal palm rest as well.
This happens when the 3 pin plug is not plugged into a well grounded powerpoint. This thing is, it only happens with my 65W power adaptor from my D630.
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The technician just left. I got a brand new mobo installed. A funny thing was that there were some screws left over *LOL*. We went through the whole laptop 3 times and could not find any place where they could have come from
So, laptop *seems* to function well. I talked to the guy about this copper-mod idea and he found it brilliant! Because he disliked the DELL's solution a lot as well
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Remove the first DDR2 memory chip and you'll see a sticker there which says what rev. you have.
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I got my motherboard replaced and here is my story.
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Telling from a person who has had 4 motherboards of Rev. A01, A02 & A04. And have tried all the available BIOS revisions. It's the cooling heatpipe that is the problem. I wished it was just a simple matter of a bad BIOS revisions or a motherboard revision. Even a driver issue. But thru a process of eliminations. It was the heatpipe design all along. -
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Why don't just use Artic Silver? I have been using Artic Silver since I got the motherboard replaced.
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When technician disassembled my system, I looked at the DELL's solution for heat transfer between the GPU and sink and told the Technician about what I read on forums. He thought it was a brilliant idea. When I told him about the temperature decrease he told "Well, for sure! I do not like the DELL's solution either and actually personally do not understand why they are using it." or smth in that manner.
He mentioned of course that any change or mod of that kind would destroy my warranty and DELL will not take responsibility for any damage caused by this. But he liked the idea itself
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I'm amazed the GPU lasted that long (unless of course your fan woes only appeared recently).
It's not good to run your 1330 w/o fan for any long period of time, but you could try to "quickly" install 18kfangui* and see if you can manually control your fan. This will quickly determine if it is a software (BIOS) or HW issue.
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Slow day at the office, so I decided to log each member that posted here, 134 total. Assuming a handful were just trying to be helpful we can safely say that no less than 125 NBR members saw their 1330s bite the dust. At least once...
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Wow. And you have not included those who posted on YouTube and Dell...
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known heatsink design flaw I fix around 3-4 1330's a day with same issue GPU overheats.
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My GPU temps are constantly cycling from 60-60C and the fan from 0-3500rpm.
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I have compare my two notebooks.
Dell XPS M1330 8400M GS
HP 9050 EO ATI Mobility Raedon 2600 XT
To compare i gave on boath machine.
wlan, 2 IE Explorer windows open, whatch a div X movie.
HP is 1 years old
Dell is 3 weeks
The temperature after 10 minuts
HP
HDD
Min 32
Max 36
GPU
Min 46
Max 49
Dell
HDD
Min 39
Max 39
GPU
Min 57
Max 67
Temperature HW Monitor 4,4
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Thanks for your quick responses. It is always nice to get some help when needed.
Test Result: Fail
Error Code: 3700:011B
Msg: Expected Processor Fan on High RPM of 5000 Detected Fan RPM=0
The fan is not dead because it will pass the diagnostics after a while.
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I got my processor and heatsink fan replaced after getting the motherboard replaced 2 days back. Detailed information here.
So far, everything seems to be working fine. The ambient temperature is 30 and HWMonitor 1.09 reports following temperatures, in Centigrade, when idle:
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The 8400 GPU is "rated" at a max 103C and clocks down at 105C. Now this is max so I'd probably think that thermal damage probably occurs somewhere from 80-90C, probably 80C since GPUs and CPUs are made out of the same materials and the technology isn't much different.
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Dell XPS M1330 - nVidia GeForce 8400M GS - Idle Temperature : Informative Poll.
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Dell XPS M1330 - nVidia GeForce 8400M GS Failure - Parts Replacement: Please vote here, so we all get an idea as to what all was replaced.
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i am also getting the same display problem as shown in the thumb nail picture.Could u please tell me what is the cause for this? And also the solution. But for me the display some times becomes normal. Please let me know...........
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Bingo! Same problems here guys (M1330 dead because of 8400 graphics)
Called them yesterday and got the replacement of motherboard and memories today.
I'm really worried about the number of posts of this same problem and wondering how long will take for the new motherboard burns again.
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Short answer: yup.
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Just an update: I got a motherboard replacement about a month ago (or maybe over a month ago) and things have been working well so far. I'm scared I'll have to go through the same thing all over again but at least the problem's fixed (+ I have completecare until 2011 lol). I guess I made the right decision of choosing completecare, I was hoping I didn't have any reason to actually use it though lol.
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Looks like my m1330's life is over for now too; just managed to backup most of my stuff before it carked it!
Seriously, Dell needs to do something about this or at least notify us (the sufferers) that they have acknowleged the issue and are working to fix it.
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The problem with the vertical lines on screen appeared about three weeks ago, nearly exactly 6 months after purchasing the notebook. First I thought it had to do with faulty drivers from laptopvideo2go.com or that my Vista64 installation got screwed up. But after trying many different drivers with no success I did some research and found threads like this one. I soon realized that it had to do with the hardware not software.
When I phoned the DELL support about one week ago it just took 10mins until the tech supporter suggested to replace the motherboard with the faulty graphics chip. Less than 24 hours later my XPS1330 was working fine again with the new motherboard. The overall problem may be DELL's fault but I have to say that I am really pleased with the support speed. (I would not like to have the motherboard replaced every now and then, though.) But as I don't want to void the warranty and dispense with the support service (maybe there are other problems that occur just after a year of operation ... ) the copper solution does not fit.
Hopefully DELL will find ways to solve this problem in the long term.
And for the people that are waiting longer than one day to get the motherboard replaced:
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M1330 Display Issue (Vertical Lines on Reboot & Crash & Vertical Lines)
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