NEW XPS!! [GTX 1650 + Webcam Fix]

Will you upgrade?

https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...placement-fixed-pricing-features-release-date

OLED Screen
Eight-core i9
GTX 1650, 1660 Ti [Turing Chips] --> Proper RTX chips only in June
Best of all: Webcam on top of screen


Best question yet: Have they engineered a better solution for thermals to cram all this in?

 

How about a cooling fix? No point in eight cores and ooomph oomph graphics if you can't cool them. Even the 6-core i7 and the 1050Ti can't run at their declared specs in the 9570.

 

If the chassis is staying in pretty much the same form then that's a red flag. What's the point of paying for these components if they're put in a device that can't even make use of them?
Maybe a quad core cpu and the 1650 could cope if they do a bit of work on this inside but I'd much prefer to see an XPS that forfeits some size and weight to cool its self better.

Hopefully this year's model isn't as riddled with issues. I was looking for a decently powerful laptop with a great FHD screen and long battery life, but was turned off the XPS after seeing all the thermal, sleep and audio problems that popped up over and over in user reports. (Along with the extra work required after getting the laptop)

 

The XPS 15 couldn't even handle an i7 and 1050ti without choking up. No way in hell the i9 and 1660ti will work in the same chassis. I predict a heatsink redesign, and probably a more aggressive fan profile to boot

 

Frankly, I hope Dell sorted out the DPC latency and sleep issues.

Unfortunately, Intel's 9th gen CPUs are minor upgrades to a tired design. Maybe Intel makes some progress on 10th gen, and Dell will fully rework the XPS.

 

Frank Azor has said on twitter that the 1660ti will not be an option, and I really, really doubt the 8-core will be an option. If the current design can't cool a 6-core properly, there is no way in hell they would sell an 8-core.

I think this is a mostly forgettable generation. I'm more interested in what they do after. I feel like the XPS 15 is a little lost. For the same price, and just a little bit more weight, you can get a better performing Aero 15x or Razer Blade. Dell should carve an awesome market for an ultraportable 15" notebook with ridiculous battery life, like the XPS currently has, while keeping the same class of CPU + GPU. So... much smaller frame than the Razer Blade or Aero 15x, but much, much more portable instead of just a little bit more portable. Eliminate the chin bezel, making the screen-to-bezel ratio the league leader. This would make the XPS 15 the same footprint as a true 13" laptop. To do this, realistically, there may need to be some compromises, like still only having 1x m.2 slot, and possibly even eliminating a RAM slot, but there are already 32 GB sticks of memory available, and 32 GBs of RAM is plenty in a device that has a 10% smaller footprint than current generations and weighs only ~3.8 pounds.

 

Dude. They sell 6 core i9s despite the fact that it couldn't cool the i7. They want the marketing HYPE over the whole "SUPER SLIM ULTRABOOK WITH DESKTOP CPU" kinda deal.

 

For such an old chassis and design, it surprises me that they have as many issues as they do

 

The original 9550 was an early beta release and an absolute disaster. Took Dell a year to get the BIOS and main drivers somewhat sorted. The 9570 still has plenty of issues today.

The laptop competition has caught up and passed Dell. The XPS platform needs a full redesign from the ground up.

 

Given Dell's (and Compal's) poor design choices, I doubt a ground-up redesign would do much beyond introducing a whole new litany of issues.

 

I still doubt it. Yeah, marketing hype is great and all, but there has to come a point where they just know how silly it will get with bad press - why not add a RTX 2080 as well with that logic? You know?

Time will tell though.

 

I feel like dell really squandered their massive lead. The XPS was temperamental, but easily ahead of its time. But every year it seemed like less and less of a top tier laptop with no equal. Asus, Lenovo and others have competition for the XPS. And that dated design can’t possibly carry them on for long

 

The only brand to get bad press for their i9s are Apple due to throttlebook design limitations. Dell and Asus seemed to have completely got away with pulling the same BS as Apple. i9s aplenty in a thin ultrabook that throttles below base clocks many times. Sometimes it performs worse than the i7s... So I very much think dell will pull an i9 unlocked model out.

Also the difference between i9s and GPUs is that CPU TDPs are all “the same” on paper while GPU TDPs are very much not. So the average bloke might think 45w i7 and 45w i9 make the same heat

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-roadmap-10nm-14nm-gpu-cpu,39163.html

Intel is in trouble

10nm H-series chips aren't even planned until 2022!!!

 

Meanwhile, AMD will be packing 7nm mobile CPUs that will crush 14nm in efficiency. We might actually see 8 cores 5GHz stable in ultrabooks.

I’d be interested to see how many jump ship since I tel has been stuck on one process for god knows how long

 

Unbelievable.

I know there are marketing differences between the manufacturers, so 10nm AMD is not the same as 10nm Qualcomm which is the not the same as 10nm Intel... but still... by 2022, they will have been on 14nm process for what? 8 years? That's why Apple notebooks will soon be powered by their own chipsets, and I expect other manufacturers to follow suit with finding alternatives. I feel as though ARM-based Windows (Windows RT was a bit too ballsy and ahead of it's time, and poorly executed) may be a good option, or AMD. Off topic, but I'm pissed I sold my AMD stock! I bought a lot of it when it was at $2, and sold it when it was stagnant at $8. Now look at it!

I'm glad I got the 9570 when I did - the gtx1650 might be a nice step up ~15-20%, but the 9750h will barely make any difference.

 

I feel like AMD will grab more market share before the switch to ARM. Switching to ARM is a huge technical hurdle while switching to AND might offer the same performance but cost much less to use

 

I agree with you there. But AMD has to prove itself first. Their notebook processors are still a few steps behind Intel, who has been treading water for years. ARM processors have proven themselves capable of some great speeds year-to-year and now even compared to X86. The technical hurdle is a lot larger, but the actual realized potential is showing to be rewarding.

 

AMD will release 7nm chips. They don’t need anything insane, just meeting expected gains would already make them the best option for laptops. Sure ARM is showing great promise, but even having better performance than AMD won’t make them too common as switching to ARM is a lot harder than a CPU swap. Unless AMD really fails and ARM improves a ton, i don’t see ARM being the new standard

 

It becomes a race - does ARM making such great gains year-by-year that the pros outweigh the cons over AMD? Only time can tell. I am more of an AMD guy myself as I like the company's values much more than Intel's, but I will root for whatever CPU family gives consumers the best experience.

 

I personally root for AMD, just wished they would release a laptop CPU that was worth giving a damn over, especially considering how wild their desktop ryzen chips are

 

I agree!

 

Seriously, 4 cores at 35W for a gaming laptop? Even budget laptops pack 45W 6 core i7s, what were they thinking?