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    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by Riccardo83, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. Riccardo83

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    Had a SSD running windows 7.

    Added a second HDD.

    SSD went to Bluray drive via HDD Caddy.

    HDD was formated and sits in original place.

    Now im getting:

    Tried to run Windows repair with USB Stick (Win7 Installation) - said it found errors - fixed them still not working.

    Starting next time from USB (F12) somehow then Windows 7 starts from my SSD with all files etc working..

    How weird is that? Any help?
     
  2. mpalandr

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    First, verify your boot sequence. I assume you are booting from the SSD, but check to make sure. Then check that the boot drive connector is seated all the way. It's possible that there's an intermittant connection.
     
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    boot sequence? where do i check that? hdd is hard drive 1 and ssd 2 i think, but where do i check to verify?

    which bootdrive connector? sorry im a newb lol.

    running windows without problems from ssd but cant start without help of usb stick? which for some weird reason starts my ssd windows
     
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    You set your boot order in BIOS. Can't exactly where as I don't have my l702x with me.

    I was thinking your SSD might not be seated properly in the optical drive assembly that replaced the blu-ray, or the assembly itself may not be seated in the laptop chassis.

    I have found it's generally less hassle-producing to always have the boot drive where it was originally when adding a second drive. E.g., my l702x came with one mechanical drive. When I added a SSD, I wanted it to be the boot driver, so I put it where the mechanical drive was originally, and moved the mechanical drive to the formerly empty second drive bay.

    If I undertand correctly, you put the new drive in the chassis and moved the SSD in place of the Blu-Ray? If so it might make things right to swap them. If you do that, you won't have to change the boot order.
     
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    u mean its better leaving the ssd where the mechanical was, and move the mechanical in to the optical drive?

    i thought this would cause heat issues? i looked for boot order didnt find anything...

    and dont u think if it wasnt seated right it wouldnt run windows at all since it does start from the ssd with the help of a usb stick?
     
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    Yes.

    No heat issues that I know of. I think SSDs may run cooler than mechanical drives.


    It's in there somewhere. Might be called boot sequence. AFAIK, every modern PC has as way to set boot order/sequence so you can boot from CD if need be, or USB.



    Yeah, that was more in response to the PXE error, which can be caused by a bad connection. Couldn't hurt to check though.


    I think the actual issue could be the boot config on the SSD still says to boot from the wrong place. Doing the repair may have changed the config so that putting the SSD in the chassis may not work without a bit of tweaking.

    Still, at this point, if it were mine, I would put the SSD back in the chassis and leave the optical caddy out for the moment. Then if it didn't boot up properly without using the USB, try to fix the boot config with BCDEDIT, the command line tool tool to edit the boot config.

    These commands generally work for me. No guarantees though. You'll need to run them from a elevated command prompt.

    BCDEDIT /set {default} device partition=c:
    BCDEDIT /set {default} osdevice partition=c:
    BCDEDIT /set {bootmgr} device partition=c:

    If you get it going, then put the mechanical drive back in the optical bay, and it should show up as D:
     
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    In doing a quick Google search I came across a thread in which many people fixed this error by hitting the HD...lol I thought that was rather funny but 20+ people fixed the issue by doing that. You hit your HD at your own risk..lol
     
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    Why did you put SSD in optical bay LOL?
    Put it back in the original slot.
     
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    fixed it. changed boot order - thanks - why i didnt do it before? Well because I needed a external keyboard to change the boot order.

    the dell keyboard only beeped when i pressed + and -

    the external keyboard worked. no clue why though....
     
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    because ssd runs cooler and the original slot is designed for mechanical hard drives. allowing better circulation.
     
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    If you bought metal HDD caddy then HDD will be fine. You didn't check it's temperature in that bay, didn't you? I doubt there is big difference. Maybe 4 degrees I think.

    Anyway if you have SATAIII laptop then you should put SSD in primary slot. Also some laptops don't work well with OS in 2-nd HDD bay.

    Not mentioning that these caddies may be bad. For example when I put HDD in 2-n hdd caddy SMART shew me couple errors and said "possibly SATA cable is bad" which means CADDY is bad.
     
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    mhh i dont have sataIII. Even if I had, you think they would make one SataIII for hdd and one SATAII for the optical drive, or why would that be an issue?

    For SSD's there is no such thing as SMART isnt it right? So no harm really...

    Right now everything works... All good. Though I might upgrade to a more expensive and better caddy. Know of any?
     
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    Seems odd you'd be obliged to use an external keyboard to make BIOS changes. On the L702x, you can use the + and - on the numeric keypad, so I would think that on keyboard that lacks the keypad, you'd press the Fn key to make the numeric keys overlaid on the alpha keys work. I think + is on the ? and - is on the ;

    On the L702x, if you're using the top row, you must hold the shift to get a + (on the =), but not shift to get a -
     
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    1. Yes, I think. not sure though.
    2. You are not aware of what SMART is. SMART is like a error log. It monitors everything for all time since a beginning.
     
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    So you mean SMART works the same way for SSDs?
     
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    Sure, it has just different values to monitor.
    Download HDTune and see yourself.

    And about caddies. I haму faulty one but still hope that it was just a coincidence... 5 times :) Anyway I will leave it because I use HDD only for downloading media purpose. But I won't put there OS drive because it may corrupt Windows so I will have some bug in future.
    It doesn't mean that you need another caddy. All of them are from China)))