New Dell XPS L521X (Ivy Bridge)

In light of all this information, would choosing the i5 over the i7 actually increase performance due to lack of throttling?

 

Is that a joke? The spectre can't handle any game fluidly that isn't at least 3 years old. You're comparing ulv ultra book with no gpu. To a high performance laptop with a ivy bridge quad processor and dedicated gpu.

 

Agree. They should have optimized around the L502X.

 

im contemplating going with last years XPS L502X im getting it with a 1080p RBG led screen ........ and the wifi should be better the only thing that sucks is 6gb ram and 525m ... and its thick

hope dell finds the wifi issue on this

 

At this time, it might be difficult to find one with the awesome AUO 1920x1080 screen. Anyway, I've been enjoying my L502X with i7 quad-core, 8GB RAM and GT 540m. I advised my son to wait until Christmas to buy his "thin, Mac like" L512X, but he didn't listen to me. (The bad part is that I had promised to fund half of the cost.)

 

Would it be possible for anyone to answer my question, please?

 

not in TRINIDAD lol we have a good bit here though vendors and it cost me 7200 TTD divide that by 6 or how much ever is the conversion rate and u will get the us cost

 

Someone has read the user in owner's thread that after 2 hours of gaming on CIV5 (2 years ago game) has been shut down of XPS?

For sure this machine can't perform a 100% load on CPU & GPU, almost sure neither 80%, maybe it can handle 50% on both GPU & CPU.

Therefore, we know that GT640m without cap performs almost double than HD4000 and 3612QM can performs almost double than a dual core I5 or I7 ULV.
I know this is coarse calculation, specially for procs, i5 has better clock for cores and HD4000 than 3612QM.

An user has said that his latitude with a downclocked version of GT520m can outperform his XPS in some game that him has used for test.
The GT520m has inferior performances compared to the HD4000.
HD4000 in i5 and i7 ULV has better clock than HD4000 in 3612QM.

My conclusion is not so sure that XPS can outperform a notebook with only HD4000, specially if tests/games that has not short duration.

 

agreed but again we can blame no one but dell .......... for not making sure most of the issues was ironed out and it seems dell needs better beta testers not office and movie junkies especially for systems like XPS and performance series ......i really would like the wifi kink ironed out as im going with an i5 model if by the time school starts no fix im going with last years XPS with RBG led screen im getting one at a good price

 

Difficult to say, because i5 models are not very diffuse at least here on the forum.
I can't answer to this question for sure.

 

I've played Civ 5 in 3 hour blocks repeatedly and haven't had my laptop shut down or experienced any framerate drops, on both the old bios and the new experimental bios.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/del...ps-15-l521x-owners-lounge-96.html#post8728823

This is not the first user that has shut down experience.
Maybe these users are unlucky, but I don't know if someone want a notebook that works well in base at the fortune.

 

Guys, the throttling is the same with all thin notebooks. It will be improved it is just a matter of finding the right balance in the bios. The BIG concern is the fact that wireless is borked big time. That should be taking a bigger priority than any throttling as a laptop is supposed to be portable!

 

correct, Ive tried several different new thing notebook and they all throttle...interestingly they were all nvidia (640 and 650), i haven't heard of any amd cards throttling

 

I guess you could check out the envy 15

 

Having owned the HP spectre (returned for awful performance) and used the xps 15, I can completely deny your claim. I struggled to play Rome total war (5 year old game if memory serves correctly) on medium settings. Whereas the xps 15 blew right through that game and many much newer and better games.

 

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this is what i am considering buying but im not sure of this model supports msata SSD's

 

I've owned a l502x for about a year now and I absolutely hate it. It's ugly and the fans keep going on and off. Not to mention, the fact that I've had my motherboard and heatsink replaced 3 times. After which I received a new L502x which again needed its heatsink replaced due to thermal issues.
The sound and screen are great though.

Config: full hd, i7, gt540m, bluray, 750gb hd

 

i dont mind that as long as dell fixes it or changes it for a l521x after the wifi has been fixed free im good

 

I'm not sure if this has been covered already.

For the US configuration with the 128GB msata, is the OS installed on the msata?

 

:O dell USA did me an injustice -_- i want a 128gb msata if im ordering the l521x and i would assume the os is there since intel RST is useless on anything larger than 64gb as the intel manual says you lose the effectiveness over 64Gb

non on the Dell Trinidad site has the 128gb msata non -_-

 

I did ask the question to one of the Dell "social media" persons, and the answer was, yes, the OS is installed on the 128GB mSATA SSD.

 

Well we all here know that's not true right?

 

Can you clarify since I'm a bit confused? Are you saying that it's been confirmed on this forum that the OS is not installed on the mSATA for the 128gb model?

Sent from my GT-P3113 using Tapatalk 2

 

The whole point of a spinner + mSATA SSD architecture is to leverage a cache functionality. I don't really trust a random Dell Phone Rep to give you the right answer on this because I doubt it's something they're told or trained on. If someone has received the 128GB mSATA + Spinner and the OS was installed on the mSATA drive, please correct me.

 

Could someone recommend a good 128 or 64gb msata drive?

 

Crucial m4 (the one I prefer) or Samsung PM830 (the same Dell mounts)

 

Dell social media people aren't phone reps. They are people like Bill, Lorna, etc. Also, I don't think the intel cache technology is designed for large hdds.

Aside from price, why would someone pick the m4? I can't think of a single reason.

 

I've read many good opinions about crucial m4, also Anandtech's review was very good. I've also read a lot about their reliability. Why do you think it's a bad choice?

Of course, I've also read many good opinions about PM830, and that's why I suggest it too

OT -- Really don't like the new forum look: too much wasted space and very ugly smilies

 

Who are "we all here"? You can see the Dell answer below, on a thread, right "here" in this forum.

 

One can always speculate.

Install any mSATA SSD in that slot, go into BIOS and change to " AHCI" instead of "Intel Rapid Response" (or something like that) and the mSATA SSD is treated by BIOS and Windows 7 as a drive, not a cache. Now, if the mSATA SSD is large enough (64GB or above), it can serve as boot/OS/apps drive.

The small mSATA SSD (16GB, 32GB) is used as a cache as a cost-effective configuration to give the main HDD a boost. Nothing sacred about this.

The "mSATA SSD for boot/OS/apss + large SATA HDD/SSD for storage" combination is fairly popular in newer laptops.

One can continue to speculate and disparage people one doesn't know.

 

I've read lots of user reviews about the drive (crucial) failing. I know that was prior firmware editions, but I will stick with the drive (samsung) with very few known failures.

OT -- I HATE the new forum look.

 

I've swapped out the default 32 Gb mSATA with an OCZ Nocti 120 GB, and it's doing fine on it.

 

Speak for yourself, some of us care much more about the throttling than the wireless. If I'm paying for a powerful computer system I want to get what I'm paying for. I don't know if it's just my router but my wireless speeds are usable, if not very good.

 

Not all thin notebooks have throttling.
This is notebookcheck review of Gigabyte U2442N,(21 x 339 x 233)mm, 1.65Kg (more thinner than XPS).
I5 3210m, GT640m (2GB DDR3), 128mSSD (Crucial M4)+750GB HDD+ 8GB ram + 2USB2.0 +2USB3.0 (1200€).

Test Gigabyte U2442N Notebook - Notebookcheck.com Tests
Review is only in German, but you can use Chrome to see translation in your language.
This notebook performs stress test (prime95+FurMark) not at base clock, instead it performs stress test with GPU with Turbo enabled @709MHz and CPU @ 2.9GHz.
I'm just curious to see if i5 version of XPS can do the same.

 

The Noci is serving as a (big) cache, or as a boot drive?

 

I'm guessing he meant all quad core thin notebooks

 

I just called dell and got a machine speed out with

I5 3210m, 8GB DDR, 750GB + 128GB msata, 640 m, and the rest of standards stuff total cost $1599
This is Dell Latin America my system was basted off the 1499 version on the dell Trinidad and Tobago site not bad for the mods ....I think.

 

I'm looking forward to seeing how the i5 performs.

 

Hey ejl1980, I have just heard that a new fix bios beta 2 is out.
Have you already tried?

Inviato dal mio GT-I9100 con Tapatalk 2

 

Bill's PM to me with the link was a little messed up, I'm waiting for a good link.

 

Boot drive, plus applications. Seems like it'll be more than big enough; it's at 38 Gb used right now, with some pretty big apps installed (like most of Adobe CS6).

 

Do you guys think that getting the i5 version instead of the i7 will provide much better battery life, despite the fact they have the same idle power usage?

 

Hot price and nice config. How'd you get it? You called Dell to configure it?
Probably won't be possible for me in the US.

OT: Hate the forum look too. Horrible on my screen. Old look was much better.

 

yes i called dell and had to remember how to say do you speak english in Spanish b4 i can customize cuz i did not know all of what they were saying

when i call back to order im gonna ask if i can get a student discount on top of the one they gave me an say said she will make dell honor the price they gave me today when i order next month

 

If this is truly the case, and again I haven't seen an owner confirm this yet, then that's good for me. Installing the OS on a 128GB large mSATA makes the most sense to me. I just didn't expect Dell to follow that common sense. Kudos if this is the case. I suppose I'll be a skeptic until an owner confirms.

 

I searched and didn't see an answer to this - who makes the touchpad on the new XPS 15 (L521X)?

 

I am also waiting on a good link. I believe he included an intranet UNC link to a File Share. Maybe he forgot we use skydrive.

 

Don't know for sure, but you can always format the mSATA and install Windows there on your own

It's Synaptic, did I answer the question?

He wrote in the owner's lounge:

 

It is a Synaptics touchpad