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    New Dell xps 17(l721x)

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by Dr.Ndre, Apr 14, 2012.

  1. Dr.Ndre

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    Guys do u know what will appear in dell xps l721x? for features and spec, what will u hope for this upcoming model?
    well i hope:
    -IPS RGBLED Display backlight
    -thinner body and less weight
    -powerful processor choice
    -nvidia gt graphic series and gtx series
    -usb port design and position like old xps 17
    -numpad like before
    that's my expectation and how about yours. :)
     
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    I want the option to at least have a gtx 660m
     
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    also it better have two hard drive bays since its 17 inches
     
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    yeah all dell xps fans are hoping for their best in upcoming notebook which is remaining 7 days to wait. hahaa
     
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    You won't get it. The XPS line is not a gaming line anymore, the GTX cards are only being put in the Alienwares, which is the gaming line now. The GT 650m will be your max option (or a GT 655m if there will be one). Furthermore the GTX cards usually have a different interface with the motherboard than the GT cards.

    My bet would be little major differences from the current XPS systems. That said, the 15" seems to have undergone some changes, so there is a chance.

    I'd expect you will still see the 2 HDD bays you have today.

    Thinner/lighter is a maybe since Ivy Bridge is so much lower in TDP, but you still need to have room to cool things so don't expect miracles. There's a reason the MacBooks are overheating these days-too thin to properly cool things. I'd prefer a little more bulk and real cooling. I honestly don't have an issue with the current XPS 17 thickness, though sure a little thinner wouldn't be unwelcome. As long as it's sturdy.

    Powerful processor choice? You mean like there already is? You can already get some insanely powerful CPUs for the XPS 15 and 17. I don't see that changing.
     
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    I guess the gt650 gddr5 version of the card will be good. Any release date of pictures?
     
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    does the current version have dual hdd bays??
     
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    Yup. 2 2.5" HDD bays, plus an optical bay.
     
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    good :) I am excited for the release!
     
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    crossing my fingers for a ddr5 version of the gt 650m
     
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    yeah i think dell will provide the best for graphic card and defeat hp in this part. haha
     
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    Would be nice, never saw DDR5 555m's out there aside from a few samples. Doubtful, but no reason not to hope!
     
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    anyway there is no news about dell xps l721x in eric dell blog. well i'm really curious on this part. hmmm
     
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    any new info...
     
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    yeah its 3 day more to reveal the mystery of xps l721x. what it'll be look like and what features will be available. just wait. it's not long kema
     
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    next day is the determining day of ivy bridge laptop. just hope that xps l721x will come next day. haha
     
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    yeah but the site prediction is out of expectation which is very dissapointing if i may say. hmmm
     
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    I wrote that article. I was told by a certain insider in the industry, it is today that Intel will announce Ivy Bridge. Trust me.
     
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    yeah i just read it in this site
    Intel launches Ivy Bridge processors - PC Advisor
    so anyway do u know any info of xps l721x, what it is look like. hmmm. anyway sorry for giving bad expression of it.
     
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    I guess no announcement of a Dell L721X laptop yet. I am praying that the new Dell XPS 17 design does not look like the proposed XPS 15 with the very thin profile. I would hate the thin design like the Ultrabooks and the loss of ports. I hope Dell announces a new Dell XPS 17 soon since I have been waiting patiently for an Ivy Bridge refresh.

    I personally like the L702X design for the most part and if all Dell did was just keep the same design and just add quad core Ivy Bridge and Nvidia 650M graphics card, I will be a happy camper and will be one of the first people to buy a laptop since I have been waiting patiently. I guess the only thing I would change if they needed to make some sort of design change is the placement of the speakers and a need for a bigger subwoofer. I don't like how the speakers are positioned where your armrests are and the subwoofer looks pretty small and weak compared to the XPS 15.
     
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    The mobile Ivy Bridge chips aren't being released for a few weeks yet (June iirc). Today was the release of the higher-end i7 and i5 chips for desktops. To hit store shelves in a week. I wouldn't expect laptop announcements until the mobile chips are announced.
     
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    That's not entirely true. Some of the mobile processors were announced today and some more will be announced in June. The processors to be announced in June will be the low power mobile processors (i5 & i3). The line of mobile processors announced today (April 23rd) are: Mobile: i7-3820QM, i7-3720QM, i7-3612QM, 3610QM

    Check out page 4: http://download.intel.com/newsroom/...Intel_Core_Processor_Product_Backgrounder.pdf

    BTW, ericdabbs, I feel very much the same way as you!

    EDIT:
    "After months of avid speculation about when, precisely, in April Intel would roll out its new Ivy Bridge “3D” processors, they’ve arrived at last — later than originally expected, but just as predicted a few weeks ago: the first 14 chips, targeted at desktops and high-end laptops, will be available on April 29."
    http://techland.time.com/2012/04/23/intels-ivy-bridge-processors-launch-at-last-how-do-they-perform/

    It shouldn't be too long at this point. Hopefully just another week or two.
     
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    yeah we need to wait longer for the ivy bridge model, but it's not big problem to wait. since it will provide better tech needs and satisfaction. hehe
     
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    Yea my bad, I mis-read and mis-remembered :D I forgot the mobile quads were announced.


    Quite right. Those links say ZERO about GTX cards in the XPS 17, I would be extremely surprised if Dell did it because it would essentially cut away half the market for Alienware, their most profitable laptops by far. Dell hsa basically said in the past theat GTX cards will be reserved for the Alienwares. Sadly that link, which has a number of facutal errors, seems to be done by someone who can't read his own references (at least he listed his references, lol). It would be nice if true, but don't count on it.

    Furthermore, every other "multimedia" laptop, which is essentially Dell's target zone for the XPS, is only running GT cards. Dell putting the very powerful variant of the 555m in last year's model was a pleasant surprise.
     
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    I don't trust that post at all. Dell doesn't put the GTX video card series in the XPS model. I think the highest Nvidia card we'll see on the L721X is the Nvidia GT 650M card since that is highest GT video card. The GTX video cards go to the Alienware series.

    Last year on the Dell L702X, the GT 555M card was used which was the highest GT video card.
     
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    GT 650m is very similar to GTX 660m so Dell can use both.
     
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    that would be awesome if they did but I doubt that. I wouldn't mind paying an extra $200 for it though.
     
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    I'd rather Dell use the new AMD cards that are coming out.
     
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    I have to see the benchmarks but the Nvidia 600M cards with the Kepler architecture and 28nm die size look pretty attractive to me.
     
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    I want cuda, main reason I am buying a new computer
     
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    Yeah. it just matter of time. i would prefer gt650 with gddr5 for dell xps l721x since i want dell to compete with hp. and i hope dell xps will able to defeat the envy class of hp. hehe
     
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    It would appear that the HP Pavilion (dv6-7017tx) has the 650m with 2GB DDR5. HP Pavilion dv6-7017tx Entertainment Notebook PC Product Specifications - HP Customer Care (United States - English)

    I would be surprised if the Dell XPS laptops didn't have that option as well. I'd be fine with the 1GB DDR5 as well, as I've read that 1GB vs 2GB doesn't make much difference on video cards anyway.

    Also, from what I've seen online, the GT 650m is supposed to be pretty close in performance to the GTX 560m. Unless I'm mistaken, it's also supposed to have Optimus, which could help battery life when you're not gaming, etc.
     
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    I would rather them not! AMD drivers are the worst!
     
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    The 650m is a GT card and I would expect that to be the top offering on the XPS 17, much like the GT 555m is the top one today.

    Just an fyi, even the GTX cards such as the GTX 580m support Optimus, but no manufacturers are implementing it on their systems that use GTX cards. Every system using a GT card implements it. This is mainly due to how Optimus works (routing the final output through the Intel graphics despite which card is used to do the hard work) and that not being ideal for gaming allegedly. Me, it seems a no-brainer to use it on these battery-hog systems when the power isn't needed, but there must be a good reason NO one implements Optimus on high-end cards.
     
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    Actually the ddr5 version is a little better than the gtx 560m

    http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/index.php?gid=832&graphics=GeForce GT 650M GDDR5

    it will be a good computer if they use it!
     
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    I will be very content with the GT 650M for the XPS 17. I just want the XPS 17 to have a video card that uses the new Kepler technology and 28 nm size. I don't really want the GTX series especially if the manufacturers are not implementing the Optimus technology. I would rather have better battery life than slightly better graphics with the GTX 660M.
     
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    The 660M is a big time dog. 66% more power for a slight graphics power bump. No thanks.
     
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    i think it will be a problem if dell xps 17 use GTX Series since it will consume more energy for the battery especially. if i may say.
     
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    That is incorrect. The GT650m and GTX660m are actually the same card, with different clock rates. In fact the GT640m is the same card as well, but with even lower clock rates and no support for GDDR5.

    Both the GT650m GDDR5 and GTX660m GDDR5 are going to consume exactly the same amount of power in low-load situations. The branding just doesn't make sense..
     
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    The company is worried about money, that is why they downclock graphics cards. happens all the time.
     
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    That may be, but right or wrong, the 650m will have widespread Optimus support, the 660m likely will have none. That is a major power consumption difference in low-GPU load scenarios.
     
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    Exactly right. I don't care about the small amount of extra graphics juice by having a GTX video card series and not have Optimus support. I want the Optimus support for my video card especially on a laptop.

    To be honest, I don't understand why we are spending so much time discussing about this. When was the last time Dell put the GTX graphics line in the XPS line? I can bet that the highest card we will see offered on the XPS line is the GT 650M. A GTX 660M graphics card on a Dell XPS 17 is a pipe dream that needs to be dropped like a bad habit.
     
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    True, I can't wait to see it released and see some photos.
     
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    The GTX560m has optimus support, the GTX580m has optimus support, and im pretty sure the GTX660m will have optimus support as well.
     
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