New XPS 14

I understand keeping things under wraps when your competitors are under wraps. However, almost every competitor has released information about their new models. In this case, its a stupid strategy.

 

I agree that the supposed buzz of witholding info before release is counter-productive especially when other compnaies have already come out with theirs. What this basically does is have potential customers to go with other companies who have decent specs already out there. If they were worried that their design would be copied- in a matter of a month? Give me a break- I am purchasing a 15 envy instead of more waiting around for the xps.

 

They're not, the product simply isn't ready to hit the shelves yet. It's the media who leak things as they have prototypes to play with. As for Amazon, they have the details and it appears on the site when they prepare the web page for go-live, hence why it disappears after a few minutes.


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The delay could be to accommodate Nvidia's formal announcement of the GT640M GPU (assuming that the Kepler 640 is in the XPS14) which was yesterday.

 

Bill said in the other thread he would try to lobby to release some more spoilers. I can see why Dell would keep quiet. If the rumors are true, this thing threatens to make a lot of noise. How many 3lb ultrabooks are there with high res screens?
1. S9 13"
2. ASUS UX31
3. Macair
I think that's it (NEC Lavie in Japan). All of these are off the table for me as they only do 4GB (I'm hoping the 14 will push to 8). And supposedly the dell will have integrated as well. If you can abide the extra pound, go ahead and buy the envy if you can't wait a couple months. You never know, the dell could have a serious engineering issue anyway.

edit: I forgot the thinkpad and sony z, but that's really a different ballpark

 

Interesting information gleaned from the leaked Amazon.com listing. Search for XPS14-10909sLV.

IT would appear the information is consolidated at Ivy Bridge-based Dell XPS 14 ultrabook debuts on Amazon | Business Tech - CNET News

I am hoping the hybrid HDD/SSD isn't being used or I have another option in the machine for a full SSD.

Now about that screen. Glossy?

As for the hold back strategy, I prefer to see the information when I can actually buy something. I hate seeing information months in advance.

 

Any word on the potential GPU? Are we expected the 640M LE Kepler? Any shot at a 650M? ETA on more info?

 

Speculation is 6/19. Make sense to me. Next week is Apple week.

 

I suppose that gorilla glass thingy makes the screen glossyish anyway.

 

I'd hope for 640M straight, but 640M LE might be OK assuming it's the Kepler variant. I'm not planning on gaming, for the most part, but it would be nice to have the option

One thing I'm definitely hoping for is reasonably quiet cooling. Some of the 'ultrabooks' get pretty noisy under load

 

gah, just ordered an XPS 13 from Dell Outlet this week (actually being delivered today), then I see this news. Now I have a difficult decision to make.

Anyone know if the XPS "hassle free" 21 day return window they're advertising on Dell's site applies to XPS's bought off the Outlet site? I know there's still a 21 day return period for those, but the hassle free ad assures there's no restocking fee.

 

As a long time XPS m1530 user I'd love another 15" XPS. I game a lot on mine, but still like the style and footprint of the m1530. I ordered a sager np9130 and returned it for a np9150 because I couldn't stand the keyboard. If I don't like the 9150 I am really considering this as an option. I know it's a step down in performance, but not by too much. The sager footprint is MUCH bigger then the m1530 but I could deal with it.

Also considering an MSI GE60, envy 15, Samsung 9 (gaming variant) but I'd love to stick with dell. You can't bet the zero 0% financing for the year to pay off the laptop can upgrade to higher options much easier this way and I got the 4 year xps service program for like 200 and it paid for its self 4-5 times.

I hope this new XPS comes out with HD 1080p matte screen, 640m or better GPU, fingerprint reader, upgradable to my SSD, atleast 8gb ram, doesn't have a number pad, and can actually stay cool. My m1530 would get damn hot there for a while.

 

I doubt the "fingerprint reader" bit. Latitude.

FHD 1920x1080 on XPS 15, but not on XPS 14. Option for HD+ 1600x900 most likely.

 

Last XPS had a reader that I still use. It's a great piece of tech and starting to become more and more in demand. Swapping your finger for any password secured website, windows login or what ever is nice to have.

 

For those of you feeling envious, be patient:

 

Dell Bill has already hinted that more and more companies have been doing bring your devices to work, and people are liking having enterprise features on their consumer laptops. That was in response to my question regarding TPM and fingerprint readers.

 

I saw that thread where bill mentioned that and that's what I'm hoping for with the finger print reader.

 

My guess would be 900P on the 14 and 1080P on the 15.

 

lol that $5 thing is b/w bill and me i prolly will go to xps 14/15 if its released in time so i can return my envy

 

Some people have been getting a little testy about the wait. Just figured I'd repost that since Bill doesn't visit this thread. I just hope he's not a compulsive gambler. From everything I hear, the XPS sounds like it will be one of the best options on the market. I got my fingers crossed.

 

I was very dissapointed to learn the XPS 15 will come in at 2.5kg = 5.5lbs+. This would mean there is no way the 14 will come in at 3lbs. More like 4-4.5. Which probably takes it off the table for me. The original amazon post incorrectly listed the dimensions for the 13", so the weight must have been mixed up as well. Dell really should have corrected that misinformation.

 

yeah i was hoping the 15 was 4-5 lbs... i was looking for a lighter but powerful package from the hp envy 15. since they are only .09 lbs apart i might hav eto reconsider

 

i had deadline of 7/1 so i got this

Processor

Intel Core i7-3520M Processor (4MB L3, 2.90GHz)

Operating system Genuine Windows 7 Professional (64 bit)

Operating system language Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64 - English

Display type 14.0" HD+ (1600 x 900) LED Backlit Anti-Glare Display, Mobile Broadband Ready

System graphics Intel Core i7-3520M Processor (4M Cache, 2.90 GHz) with Intel HD Graphics 4000

Total memory 8 GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (2 DIMM)

Keyboard Keyboard Backlit - US English

Camera 720p HD Camera Mic

Hard drive 500GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm

Ultrabay DVD Recordable

System expansion slots Express Card Slot

Battery 6 Cell Lithium Battery T81+

Power cord 90W AC Adapter - US (2pin)

Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.0 with Antenna

Integrated WiFi wireless LAN adapters Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200 (2x2 BGN)

Integrated mobile broadband Mobile Broadband upgradable

Language pack Publication - US English

 

Yeah I thought the dell was going to be a real upstart, but it's sounding fairly average in terms of portability.

 

Now that the Apple blitz is over (kind of underwhelming news on the Air), Dell has rolled out its Vostro update. Can the XPS 14 be far behind?

 

Only good news was the air went to 8GB. Wish more ultrabooks would do that. Dell should announce soon, but they'll probably delay another couple weeks. Even though almost all the specs for the XPS 15 have been leaked. I just want to know what weight the 14 comes in at, if it's 4lbs it's a pass for me.

 

Well given this comment from the XPS 15 thread -

I'm expecting that it will be above ultrabook-spec'd weight. So, maybe 4lbs is a realistic estimate. I don't entirely understand why people are having such a negative reaction to weight if this device is going to be packing a good discrete GPU, high end CPU, higher than "720P" screen, and full assortment of ports. However, maybe I'm dense

 

cause with the hype its supposed to go above and beyond other company's offerings

 

If it were considerably thinner and lighter, sacrifices would probably have to be made on power (or risk overheating).

 

Yes it applies to outlet computers. I had to return a V131 that I really really really disliked and did not have to pay a restocking fee.

 

It will have the ulv cpu and discrete. Was just hoping dell would make a thin and light with a decent screen. But I think it will be 4lbs. Just doesn't sound like much of a bump from the 14z (besides dropping the odd).

 

yeah, I'm initiating the return today, which is 7 days from the invoice day so I should be good to go.

I like the 13 and may return to it if these new offerings aren't up my alley, but I didn't want that hanging over my head the next few weeks. I have a backup I can use until the XPS 14 release/XPS 13 reboot stuff gets sorted out.

 

I sent mine back as I want to see the xps 14" if it has the better screen and the weight is around 3-4 pounds I will probably go with that otherwise I will order the xps 13" when it has the ivy bridge cpu, I hope we find something out soon.

 

It is not an XPS but it looks nice.....

Vizio 14"

 

HEY DELL! It's June 15. WTH? How about some news.

 

Good luck with that. Bill last said next week at the earliest, and release about two weeks from a day or two ago.

If you aren't monitoring the 15 thread, go to this link Íâ¹ÛÅäÖÃË«Éý¼¶ ´÷¶ûXPS14/15Õæ»úÆعâ_IT168 with chrome to translate for all the good or bad news we've been waiting for. No confirmations yet, but it looks solid.

 

Yikes. GT630M on the XPS 14 . So, old generation Fermi then (and possibly not even the die-shrunk variety?). That's definitely a bummer. Its competitors are using GT640M >.<. Heck, Asus stuck the just-one model lower 620M, which is apparently roughly as fast or faster (see here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-620M.72198.0.html), in the ultrathin (plus IPS!) Zenbook Prime. I'm surprised the 640 didn't make it.

 

New IVY XPS 14 XPS 15 specs leaked. (PHOTOS)

The leaked spec sheet for the XPS 14 claims that it is powered by a 3rd-generation Core i7 “Ivy Bridge” processor backed by 8GB RAM. There’s also an NVIDIA GT 630M 1GB GPU pumping the pixels to the 1600 x 900 LCD display.

Storage is provided by a hybrid 500GB hard drive and 32GB SSD unit. Battery life is listed at 11+ hours.

The XPS 15 has a beefier alleged spec sheet. It too is powered by a 3rd-generation Intel Core i7 “Ivy Bridge” processor and 8GB RAM. However, this time the larger 1920 x 1080 full-HD screen is fed by the more powerful NVIDIA GT 640M 2GB.

Seems it has Ehternet , smartcard and USB 3.0 HDMI connectors and DVDR or + players (from pictures)

Storage is also provided by a hybrid 1TB hard drive and 256GB SSD unit. The XPS 15 is also kitted out with a slot-loading optical drive and the battery life is rated at 8+ hours.

Both the XPS 14 and XPS 15 have backlit keyboards and a full compliment of ports, including HDMI, DisplayPort and USB 3.0. The design of these systems is similar to that of the XPS 13 in that they make use of Corning Gorilla Glass, machined aluminum and carbon fiber to create a shell that is lightweight, yet strong and hard-wearing.

If the specification of the final devices lives up to the leaked specification, then these ultrabooks will be ideally suited to enterprise users looking for thin-and-light systems that are powerful enough to get the job done. At the same time, they will also sport a battery that is capable of lasting through a full day of work.

The XPS 13 starts at $999, so I would expect the XPS 14 and XPS 15 to come in at around $1,299 and $1,499 respectively.
here too (in english):

www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/dell-xps-14-xps-15-specs-leaked-photos/20822

Chinese
http://ultrabook.it168.com/tu/1360584.shtml

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Just to add to the spec roundout, take "lightweight" with a grain of salt.
~4lbs for XPS14
~5.5lbs for XPS15

 

XPS ~ 4.7lbs...kinda fail on its catalog

 

O_O

I just noticed the 2.13kg...you're right! (4.7)

 

So? It's not an Ultrabook, it's not competing with sub 2kg models. Besides, 2.13kg isn't exactly back-breaking.


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What is it competing with, then? What appears to be a similarly-classed, though lighter (sub-2KG) notebook from Gigabyte ( U2442V) has a higher-end GPU (640M).

The low-end 630M part does appear in other notebooks, but in lighter and thinner models such as the Asus UX32VD - Review Asus Zenbook UX32VD. As notebookcheck shows in their GPU comparison section, 620M is as-fast or faster than the 630M; same architecture, just higher clock on the 620. The UX32VD also has an FHD IPS screen w/ over 1000:1 contrast ratio, 350 nits brightness, and essentially full sRGB gamut.

I'm really confused by the use of the 630M. Judging by the Asus and Gigabyte, the 14 should have more than enough cooling to handle the 640. Product differentiation from the 15? That's about all I can figure.

 

It's competing with the HP Envy.

 

Which HP Envy?

 

Any of them. None are Ultrabooks and neither is this. The XPS 13 competes with the ASUS UX31. You can't compare different segments then complain one is far heavier.


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CowboyCoder is correct, Dell Bill referred to the XPS14 as a PC, if it were to exist, NOT an ultrabook.

 

They are using ULTRA LOW VOTAGE CPU in XPS 14, what a fail again, Dell.
I was so curious if American acutally don't care about the weight because dell always don't care the weight of laptops

Untill apple continues releasing lighter and thinner laptops, I know the true is everyone cares.

Dell, it's not 00" already. Like your AW line, just put everything in a big box and sell it to market. (doesn't even care about the weight, the size)
MBP R has similar performance to your M14x, but 30% lighter, 100% thinner. This is engineered well, they really spent their efford to think about what customers actually need, what they need to improve, what customer really care.

I actually think MBP R is "alienware". It's evolution inside and outside.

 

I think the new MBP R is where laptops should be in a couple years when CPUs and GPUs are more efficient. At this point, I would prefer a laptop that can stay cool enough to use no matter how intensive the use is, over a laptop that's a little thinner.

 

Several of the Envy models are ultrabooks (or equivalent), such as the XT, 6, and 4. The Envy 14 Spectre is also marketed as an ultrabook, more or less, though it also fills a niche as a kind of fashion-oriented design and it a bit heavier and thicker due to materials used. The XPS 14 is heavier than any of them (and larger than all but the 14), and doesn't appear to be directed at the same market.

That leaves the Envy 15, which is really a competitor of the XPS 15, given that it's heavier, larger, and significantly more powerful. So, I compared the Gigabyte U2442V because it's similar in chassis size and has similar specifications but for the more powerful GPU (though it is lighter). The Asus UX32VD was selected because it manages to be just as powerful while being significantly smaller and lighter (though its display is higher resolution and IPS). So, it isn't really clear where the XPS 14 was intended to be competitive, among other available products. It is a very nice-looking design and seems to be a fine notebook in its own right, but a low-end GPU coupled with a ULV processor appears to leave it punching below its weight...literally.

Honestly, I'm not trying to just rag on Dell. I have been very happy, in general, with the several Dell notebooks I've owned and I was hoping that the 14 would be very competitive because I prefer to stick with Dell. Given the chassis size and overall design, it seems as though there was the potential for a more powerful configuration, so it's somewhat frustrating to see where it ended up. As I said before, I was willing to take somewhat of a hit either on performance or weight/bulk to stay with them because of the quality of support, but this might just be a bit much for me. So, I'm mostly just disappointed.