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    Nvidia GeForce in Studio XPS 16?

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by hotfusion, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. hotfusion

    hotfusion Notebook Consultant

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    I am getting a bit bored waiting for the new SXPS 16 (and the free Windows 7 upgrade), thought I would start a new discussion.

    How do you guys think about the Nvidia GeForce 9700M, 9800M, 160M or 260M in a Dell Studio XPS laptop?

    I like the fact that Nvidia is constantly updating their drivers and I also like the Hybrid Power and Hybrid SLI features. Most importantly, with an Nvidia GPU, I can turn the SXPS into a hackintosh, making it the PERFECT laptop in the market.

    Anyway, this is just a thought. What do you guys think?

    Please do NOT start a flame war!!!
     
  2. ACHlLLES

    ACHlLLES Notebook Virtuoso

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    Doubt it. They have AW for higher end GPU's.
     
  3. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    They could do it but they won't. Dell's biggest mistake IMO was buying AW. I always thought AW had cheesy looking laptops (they're rebadged Sagers). The M17xx line was a lot nicer than the crap AW is pushing out. It would be nice if Dell added nVidia 8 and 9 series GPU's to teh SXPS 16 but it'll never happen..
     
  4. rpg-XPS

    rpg-XPS Notebook Evangelist

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    Absolutely, I agree 100%, it would be a fantastic idea. Everyone shouldn't have to buy a big bulky overstated AW machine just to get a decent NVIDIA GPU.

    IMO, I think Dell sold themselves short fitting an ATI GPU to the SXPS 16. With the fantastic 1080P RGBLED screen, DDR3 memory and range of fast Intel processors, all that's missing is a NVIDIA GPU.
     
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    Well ATi chips are no slouch, especially the 4000 series. The problem is that Dell doesn't give consumers the option of choosing between nVidia and ATi. I personally would have gone with an nVidia 9 series chip but I know many others would've chosen otherwise.
     
  6. nomoredell

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    exactly, all i want for studio 16 is nvidia 9400m igp(to go with rgb led screen).
    its a good thing we share the same view on this.
    i have 2 studio 17 with rgb led, and 1 studio 16 with rgb led, and 2 studio 13 with 9400m. rally wish we can just switch the gpu on 13 to 16.
     
  7. hotfusion

    hotfusion Notebook Consultant

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    You have 5 laptops?!?
     
  8. kkl1014

    kkl1014 Notebook Consultant

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    The SXPS doesn't need an Nvidia GPU. All it needs is a new higher end Radeon 4000 series GPU to perform well and be a decent gaming machine.

    IMO, Nvidia is overrated. Mobility Radeon 4870 performs just as well as Nvidia's top solutions.
     
  9. Mastershroom

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    ATi graphics cards are just as good as nVidia. The problem is the particular model they chose for the Studio XPS 16; a model as new as this should not be using an older generation card like the Radeon 3670, it should have the 4xxx-series equivalent, probably a 4650 or so.
     
  10. mtness

    mtness loitering

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    I didnt think the studio XPS was targeted for the gamer.......first and formost its a multimedia machine and i think that either the HD3670 or if the HD4670 comes about are enough for this machine.......it primary perpose isnt gaming so why throw a 256bit GPU in it to suck the battery life.......the HD3670 and HD4670 both hold there own very well in the performance 128bit GPU department.....and arguably the HD4670 is the most powerful in its range.
     
  11. hotfusion

    hotfusion Notebook Consultant

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    While I agree that ATI has been releasing some very respectable GPUs lately, I think the Nvidia 9400M + discrete GPU solution is still slightly better for laptops. The HybridPower feature gives your a longer battery life compared to the discrete GPU yet still powerful enough for viewing HD movies or some very light gaming on the go. Then the Hybrid SLi gives you a very powerful GPU for gaming. Nvidia GPU also provides hardware acceleration for Photoshop, giving non-gamers an advantage as well.

    For me, I like to see Nvidia GPUs in the SXPS 16 mostly because I like to install OSX on my machine. Seeing that Apple has been using Nvidia in all of the new laptops, I think the chances of being able to install OSX on SXPS would be better if it has an Nvidia GPU.
     
  12. Dayton

    Dayton Notebook Evangelist

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    If the 4670 ever happens, it would be ideal. I don't know if there could be a better match. The Studio XPS line is far too thin for the top class GPU's. They require plenty of cooling and therefore a thick case. What Dell should have done is just gone with a 3870 initially and been done with it.
     
  13. kkl1014

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    3870 is probably too hot for the SXPS 16. The laptop gets hot enough already with the 3670, and the 3870 is a Geforce 9800M equivalent chip.
     
  14. rpg-XPS

    rpg-XPS Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah, I guess I shouldn't be so quick to dismiss ATi graphics cards. Ever since I bought my first computer, I've wanted/gone for NVIDIA graphics. I've become very familiar with them and like their performance and drivers.

    But, if the SXPS 16 does come out with a HD 4670, I'll find it very hard to dismiss ATi then. Looking at some of it's 3DMark scores, it seems a very impressive graphics card.
     
  15. tiduspr

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    Would not want ths sxps 16 with an nvidia gpu. Even now, when most are claiming that Nvidia has fixed their gpus from the meltdown issues they had (see 9400m gt and others series) my experience was so bad with this, and the lack of a solution for those who had these cards was so disappointing, Ill stick with ATI graphics now.
     
  16. Dayton

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    You're right, wishful thinking on my part. Best Dell probably could have done is a Geforce 9600/9650M, which while better than the 3670 is becoming a very meh GPU.
     
  17. mtness

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    ^^ the Nvidia 9600m gt has equal or slightly less performance than the HD3670 but the 9650m gt does perform better.... Im actually very happy with the card that dell uses its a good performance card and remembering its a multimedia machine not a gaming rig does very well for its self....