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    Overclocking 4670 HD Mobility

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by chrusti, Aug 22, 2009.

  1. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    Hello,

    Is it possible to overclock a 4670 Mobility in my Dell Studio XPS using WINDOWS XP?

    Cheers

    Chrusti
     
  2. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    Did any one manage to overclock the 4670? For me it wont work at all.
     
  3. sleey0

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    Not sure if that's a good idea with the heat the 1640 already puts out.

    I guess if you had a cooler you could try it (sorry I don't have more info for ya)....
     
  4. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    I don't believe it's possible because Dell has locked the firmware.
     
  5. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    Thats too bad.. because I used to overclock my 8600M gt in my Dell vostro up to 25% :p
     
  6. Viper786

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    I used to do that in my XPS M1530 with the same card :)
     
  7. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    Good times, overclocking perhaps crashed my games sometimes. But it really was worth it. I got Around 25 FPS In Oblivion, with OC I got up to 32. That made quite a difference!
     
  8. funky monk

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    I think ATI tool version 3 works
     
  9. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    I will try it right away, and post if I got it to work or not.

    Thanks for the input funky monk!


    *edit*

    I can only find ATITool 0.27 Beta 4


    Where can I download version 3 ?

    cheers
     
  10. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    Anyways, I tried ATI Tool 0.27 Beta 4 and it didnt work. Neither on Vista nor XP.

    Too bad, if anyone else could give it a shot, that would be highly appreciated.
     
  11. 5150Joker

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    It won't work, the only way to do so would be to find a way to dump the video bios and then hex edit it to remove the restrictions Dell put in. This was the case back in the day with the XPS 2 and it seems Dell has kept that tradition with the XPS16. I wouldn't mind some mild overclocking since my system runs cool enough to do so but whatever.
     
  12. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    I agree, in fact I believe you could probably gain up to 20% perfomance game by overclocking. At least that was my experience with my previous dell systems.

    I never heard about this lock though, this was not applied to the vostro 1500. Why would they lock a higher class laptop anyways?
     
  13. scorpeeon

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    don't forget the 4670 is an overclocked 4650, so i think u couldn't overclock it much more..
     
  14. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    That might be, however what I know about companies like Intel, Amd and co is that they usually use faulty CPU/GPU´s and just underclock them to make them work again for example a T7250 has half of its Level 2 cache disabled.

    So perhaps we could have overclocked the 4670.
     
  15. scorpeeon

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    yeah, i'm pretty sure we could have, the only question is how much and i think because if this we couldn't overclock it like 25%, only like 10% so it wouldn't worth bothering with it. but this is just a guess.
     
  16. ikjadoon

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    Can't you edit the BIOS itself (no hex editor) and just up the clocks that way? Or is even that low-level overclocking killed by Dell?

    ~Ibrahim~
     
  17. Mackan

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    Try AMD GPU Clock Tool, or TechPowerUp GPUTool. Both have had some successful results overclocking newer ATI cards. It may also depend on the Catalyst driver version you use.
     
  18. stevenxowens792

    stevenxowens792 Notebook Virtuoso

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    What about utilizing a new driver and rivatuner? I thought Riva would work for 4xxx series? Good Luck, SXO792
     
  19. funky monk

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    oooops once again, I used 0.26 ati tool. I sound like such an idiot now
     
  20. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    The Tech Powerup GPU Tool just freezes for me.
    Riva tuner didnt work either...
    I will try the AMD GPU Clock Tool next.


    I am using the newest Catalyst driver by the way.

    thanks for your help guys

    cheers
     
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    It's not going to work no matter how many tools you guys cycle through. It's locked through the video bios and isn't driver side.
     
  22. KSMB

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    you need guys like Juanlu :)
    he was the "first" person who unlocked DELLS VBIOS to Nvidia go79XX series with very good result :) (i used his ISO-flash long time, fantastic power i must say, (very stable temps and performance))

    for you who is interested, here it is.
    http://web.archive.org/web/20070706075557/home.tele2.es/jlgm/peng.html

    anyway. maybe we should give Juanlu a call and ask him if he interested :)
     
  23. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    Sounds promising, I will send him an email right away.
    I believe the more people request it, the more possible will it be that he will start working on it.
    Cheers
     
  24. Stafref

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    Hello!

    My question is not relevant to overcloacking the 4670,but maybe you'll be able to answer me...Sorry for putting it here,but i couldn't find a better place.

    I'm really interested how is the 4670 performing in OpenGL mode and are there any problems with OpenGL and CAD software (AutoCAD,Archicad,3D Studio etc..).Are there any problems with driver versions and compatibility?
    I'm asking because i'm intending to change my Quadro card(in a dell precision laptop) for a laptop with 4670 (MSI GX623 probably)
     
  25. AlexSochi

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    haha buy a xps 1340 with 9400mg you'll have much crappier graphics but you can overclock :)

    Im sure there has to be a program to do it, a lot of people still dont believe me that 9400mg is overclockable but it is with nvidia tools, so look for something that has to do with ATI i guess
     
  26. KSMB

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    its already OCd.........if you want to OC you should use a standard GPU (ex. go7900 GS, ati 4650. 9800M GS), then you have much more potential :) and much more heat to give the card.

    OC a 4670 will end in prrrssssshhh (after some month using)
    (just one way to do it, and thats to cool down the laptop very much, ex, a ice-brick.

    [​IMG]
     
  27. chrusti

    chrusti Notebook Evangelist

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    Well I only know my CPU temp, but it only goes up to 60C° After playing 2 hours Far Cry 2. So I dont think temperature is much of an issue. (at least with my notebook)


    cheers
     
  28. vlank

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    Guys, i have an ati 3670 (SXPS1640) and i managed to overclock it pretty close to the performance that the 4670 has (i almost double the performance of my card), and good news, with this kind of OC i get temps on the gpu running crysis and heavy games from 66 to 74° after playing for some hours straight, as for the cpu goes, i get 69° tops, its pretty simple though...

    -Get the AMD GPU CLOCK TOOL (this is important, it must be version 0.7, other versions havent worked for me), the only "problem" is that you have to manually overclock it everytime you need it.

    For example, my stock clocks are on 400 and 800, i have managed to oc it to 800 and 860, i only have 3 gb of ram so you might be able to oc it a little bit more, i get 10,600 points on 3dmark05 while stock 4670 gets about 12,500, so u should get similar performance, i have done this for months by now and i can say its pretty safe (for this model studio xps 1640).
     
  29. Koer

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    Hey man!

    yeah i remember you mentioned on you messages that you had OC´d your ATi, il be sure to check it out as soon as i use my sxps 16 for a couple of months :) ( although i think the card is already powerful as it is )
     
  30. fr0x

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    With RivaTunner, you can overclock easy your 4670M.

    I overclocked my 4670M from 675/800 to 780/855 stable (+600 pts GPU score in 3DMark Vantage)
     
  31. funky monk

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    Finally, a GPU clocking program which works with the 3670! Powerstrip kinda worked for me but it sucked pretty badly and was very tempremental, any artifact checking programs we should know of? I checked google quickly and couldn't seem to find any.

    Bwt, +1 :)
     
  32. quepuick

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    I tried that and the lasted modded Ati drivers and I male 7200 points in 3DMARK06 (instead 6800 pts max with the original sets)
     
  33. Koer

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    What drivers do you have ? because i installed the latest Desktop drivers for my ATi and when i open up rivatuner, it wont let me open the overclock window
     
  34. fr0x

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    I tested with Catalyst 9.10, 9.11 and 9.12.

    You need edit the RivaTuner.cfg file in the root of your directory install of RivaTuner.

    Search "RV730" and add ",9488h" at the end of the line

    Restart RivaTuner and now you can overclock your graphic card :)
     
  35. milesmutt

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    fr0x,

    thanks for the tip! edited the cfg file and presto, I can overclock my 4670!

    now let's see how much nicer crysis and codmw2 will look....