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    Overclocking the GT 555M card.:-)

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by kroenen04, Mar 30, 2011.

  1. Luke-ridd

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    Very nice scores, considering you have a non-sandy bridge processor, i could get mine reasonably close but those are the speeds i run all the time (due to optimus)

    Recently found that im running out of hard drive space, only about 200/500gb left lol (use steam, fully installing games takes up space) so im getting another 500gb seagate momentus to install in the second bay, while im at it i thought i would get some crucial 4gb sticks to replace the standard samsung ram (faster timings)
     
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    Wrong thread, dude.
     
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    What, 555m was not a direct competitor to the 6770?
     
  4. Luke-ridd

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    This thread is specifically about the gt555m and overclocking it so if you wana post any benches, post them of the gt555m
     
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    Guys, there is nothing wrong with a little friendly competition.

    Now if I came in here saying how bad the 555m was and comparing it to a HD6970 or something then fair enough.

    However I have noticed how close the results are in the 3dmark series so posted mine as a bit of competition.

    It hardly needs a new thread as I have maxed my card anyway, so it would be ludicrously short.

    I also find this sort of thing will spur people to keep going and see what they can really squeeze out of their cards, and this is an overclocking thread.
     
  6. Luke-ridd

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    Nah its fine really, just dont want the thread to go off topic too much :p
     
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    Oh I agree and I have been very interested to see the scores so keep them coming!
     
  8. Luke-ridd

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    Just installed 2 x 4GB Kingston Hyperx DDR3 1866MHz and a second HDD ^^
    new ram runs nice and fast compared to my old 6gb
     
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    Nice job staying on the topic...
     
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    my dell xps arrives soon ( 28th ) and i must say this is very interessting. also, if my computer gets ruined because of overclock, will it be covered by insurance or warrenty or do i have to pay? just wondering if overclock is such a good option because i dont want to ruin my $2220 machine by the first months
     
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    They cannot prove that it died because of overclocking so long as you remove any overclocking software from your computer before they take a look at it, they do not look into it too much so just make sure that theres nothing that obviously shows that your overclocking and it will be fine.
     
  12. Ta10n

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    Indeed.

    Not to mention that the GT555M is GF106 based (same as the GTX460M) and NVIDIA clocks that way higher in other parts (i.e. the GTS450). So the GPU won't explode with some OC. The only thing to be wary of is the temperature of the GPU power delivery circuitry. I'm not sure if Dell includes the same sort of thermal safeguards that desktop GPU manufacturers employ, if they don't it could be an issue.
     
  13. Chase.Barnett

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    How did you get to 790? I can only get it to 770 in afterburner. The program has me restricted to that.
     
  14. mortenvat

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    are the fps benchmark on notebookcheck correct? example, will it only be 13 fps on maximum graphical settings on crysis? there was one guy with an alienware m14 with i5 and gt555m getting 38 fps avrage on maximum! this is really confusing because he had no graphic card overclock either. :S
    if im only getting 13-ish fps im returning xps and building myself a gaming rig..

    he had a cheap build too, no ssd, no raid, no nothing.

    Here
     
  15. Chase.Barnett

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    Even at FHD, I would think it would do a little better than that. I dont have Crysis 2, but I'll run Crysis 1 in a few minutes and tell you what I think.
     
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    Alright, I was wrong, with my specs and my GPU OC'd, I probably got low to mid teens with everything at very high. But I found the sweet spot for my system, Shadows medium, everything else high and play at 900. Seemed very smooth to me.

    If I had a way to record my average frames, I would... Anyone know of a program that would do that for me?
     
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    Since my gpu temps does not exceed 65c under heavy load I've tried to overclock and see what I can expect with oc'ed gpu.. So I've been playing about 2-3 hours metro 2033 with:

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    And I got:

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    As you can see the difference is only 4 degrees, so I think it's worth it to have 7-10 extra fps :)
     
  18. Chase.Barnett

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    What are you using to overclock?

    I'm ordering a cooler tonight. I have been playing Crysis on and off today. With the OC, the left palm rest gets pretty warm. After about 45 minutes, the screen locks up and Crysis will shut down. Not sure if the Processor or GPU is to the left of the track pad, but what ever it is sure does get warm.

    I'm looking through the forum for the re-pasting guide. I think I'm going to order some Arctic Silver to help out with the cooling. Now I just have to decide if I'm brave enough to rip my new 1600 laptop apart. :confused:
     
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    MSI Afterburner 2.2.0 Beta 4

    Yes, with almost 70c degrees palm rest starts burning a bit :) Well, it is not surprising since right under that spot is located GPU and it's covered by aluminium surface. What temps do you get playing Crysis?
     
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    Both are on the left side of the laptop, the GPU is more under the palmrest, the CPU under the KB.

    I've taken mine apart twice personally for repastes (first one I didn't get enough in there I felt...), it isn't too bad except the HDD caddy screws like to fall into the case, and it takes some work to get them out. Once you've seen/done it once, it is easy, but it takes some time. Basically you have to take most everything off...and some of the screws like to strip, make sure to give good firm pressure on those phillips heads.
     
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    What a resolution is he playing and what parts has he in his alienware-notebook?
    If you wanna play all games on maximum in FullHD,the best way is to buy/build a gaming-desktop.I have an alienware desktop,too..and this guy is blowing my XPS away in any game.But for a notebook,the XPS is a beast..and for a lot better price as most of the very expensive alienware-notebooks with the same hardware inside.But alienware is great,too...if you want the best looking destops or notebook,this is the way to go.The alienwarecases are looking so much better live as on the bad pics on the dellpage.On desktopreview.com a guy has posted some pics of his new darkchrome aurora...sweet. :) ...but thats offtopic,sorry. :D
     
  22. TheManicJuggler

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    Overclocked my new XPS 17 yesterday... total of 14,325 3D marks in 3DMark06 with max OC'd settings (otherwise about 13,400) :D
     

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    Are you gaming in 3D? If so, remember that it will drop the frame rate by precisely half, as the images have to be shown for the right and left eyes individually, one after the other...
     
  24. Chase.Barnett

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    How the heck did you manage to get eathier one of those scores? Nice!
     
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    Alright, I'm all caught up on reading. I have now read every post in this thread since page one.

    Now, time for some early morning benchmarks. :)
     
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    I could never get Afterburner working on my 6770M even after "unlocking it" by modifying the config file. I hope it works good with the 555M..lol
     
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    Just plugged in the numbers provided by kroenen04 and ran a bunch of tests, the laptop took care of the rest!
     
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    been overclocking a couple of times and now im getting some really bad lag spikes, even when not using the gt 555m, help! the sounds in speakers starts squeking and framerate in games drop as low as 3fps when playing counter strike source etc
     
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    What do you mean 'lag spikes'? It's some sort of spikes coming out randomly from textures while playing games?
     
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    Chase, great overclocking results though, but be careful there.. it's like walking on thin ice, you know. :)
     
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    Sounds like you are overheating. I had a similar phenomenon with my XPS. Basically, the CPU would quickly downclock to 702MHz (its low point) and be running at 95C. It turned out that the fan header wasn't plugged all the way in, so it wasn't cooling properly. My guess is your temps are exceeding the threshold and then your CPU is getting downclocked, making things run terribly. Monitor your temps...I bet that is your problem.

    CHASE: Great results. That GPU score exceeds my old desktop 9800GT 1GB in the same test by a several hundred points (~6000 vs ~6450), only it had a Core2Quad Q9550 running at 3.4GHz behind it...
     
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    Well I'm not familiar with Vantage. Are those some good scores?
     
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    For a switchable laptop card, yea, pretty darn good. The 460m averages around 6750 according to notebookreview.com: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460M - Notebookcheck.net Tech So you are pretty close to a good non-switchable card.

    The 9800 GT was a premier desktop graphics card about 3 years ago, it just happens to give me a good reference since I ran it until about 1 month ago (well I SLI'd 2 for about 8 months before that but yea).
     
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    Well, glad to know I'm doing good! I'm keeping this system clean. I run Advanced SystemCare frequently to check for any hick-ups and I really like it. I'm also keeping registry clean after un-installing programs. Not sure if that has anything to do with it.

    I'm actually playing around online looking at different specs for a tower build, I wan't to build one in the next 6-12 months.

    After talking about the 9800GT, this has made me miss my old ATi x850 XT Pro
     
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    no no :) I mean the fps drops dramatically for a couple of secounds. examble if i Play Crysis 2 and listen to music, suddenly framerate drops from 40 to 2 and music starts squeking and all hell breaks loose. This also happens with Counter strike source and internet browsering. I am really annoyed by this as it happens quite often. I have already contacted dell and they told me to run hardware diagnotics. Test results showed no errors.. tomorrow im going to run ubuntu and check if its a software fault. wish me gl.

    And btw I have only overclocked once, and the temperature reached 70 and screen started flickering. minimized game and reset clocks, !? Used clocks found in this thread.
     
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    been doing it from day one, this problem happens even when cpu temperature is 50c...
     
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    But what about your GPU temp? Same thing could be happening. How about if you drop the overclock, does all return to normal? If so that is your culprit. Possibly unstable OC.

    Chase, there are some great things out there for desktop builds right now. 2600K all the way...there's nothing better available now except maybe the 980x/990x, and only those by a little bit in massively-threaded stuff. But in 6-12 months Ivy Bridge will be out which promises to be a bit better yet than Sandy (1st half 2012).
     
  39. Chase.Barnett

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    I'm in no rush. I want to pay off my XPS and all the toys I've purchased first. If I start to get back into Flight Sim with more than just intentions to refresh my memory before I start work on my license, then I'll be building a serious computer.

    All I know is that friggin' hobby is expensive... But when you get into it and actually take full advantage of all the add on's and online resources, it's worth every freaking penny if your enjoying it. :)
     
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    Yeah vantage is memory bandwidth heavy, I get a score increase from raising memory clocks even at 1125 to 1150mhz.

    Here is my 6770 score:

    Result

    But man your sandy bridge brutalises my Core 2 quad lol :eek:
     
  41. madmattd

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    My C2Q (desktop though) scored 32k under Vantage with SLI 9800's, and now it scores like 48-52k with a 560TI...my friend's 2600K scores a 20k-ish with a slightly faster card (950 MHz 560TI)....something wrong with that test!

    I got the 555m basically because it was the best GPU available with Optimus. I believe in some future-proofing. I got the laptop as a reasonable replacement for my powerhouse of a desktop when I am on the road. I wanted to be able to play all my games and do my CAD work easily. Needless to say, I am very happy with the system. It isn't as strong as the desktop, particularly in graphics (the CPU is actually surprisingly comparable), but it runs solidly. I might play with OCing the 555m myself, this thread has been pretty informative. It's only in use when I am gaming or doing CAD work, and that is when the boost would be nice anyway.
     
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    Sounds like some of those scores have PhysX on tbh. The graphics card should not change the CPU score.
     
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    Well there was a small change in CPU score when I went from a single 9800 GT to SLI, it was about 1000 points as I recall. I'm not sure what is going on now, I ran the performance preset...but it is really inconsequential, I'm not looking to upgrade for a couple more years at this point. I rarely max the thing out, and I'm sure I can overclock it more, the 9550 was renowned for it's overclocking ability. An OC from 2.83 to 3.4 was seamless, it still runs at stock voltage...

    But enough of getting me off-topic :D
     
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    Yeah sounds like you had phys-X enabled, you need to disable it to get a valid score.
     
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    guys im gonna buy a new laptop which has the following specs:
    I7-2720QM
    8GB ram ( 8192MB)
    GT555m 2GB

    Does anyone know if i overclocked the GT555 will it get BETTER FPS than a GT555m with i7-2630QM?
     
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    Depends on the situation, but not much in most cases. They are the same card and the CPUs are both insanely powerful while the GPU is just good. If it is a really CPU-intensive game then yes, you might see a few more frames with the 2720QM. Not so if the game is GPU-intensive, it'll be basically the same. That said, the 2720 is a nice CPU.

    Now I just noticed you were referring to OC with 2720 versus no OC with 2630. Yes, in those cases you will see a good boost, as the people in this thread have found. The 555m at full OC scores nearly on a level with a GTX 460m, and so it has more headroom for those GPU-intensive situations.

    BTW, Dell's 555m is a 3GB card (at least it was), not that it matters. Anything over 1-1.5 GB is pointless on a upper-mid/lower-high tier GPU like the 555m.
     
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    Actually I've seen very nearly 2gb's eaten up by Crysis 2. I think it was around 1960mb, and this is at playable settings ("high" with hi-res textures, DX11) averaging 25-30fps.

    In multiplayer it'll hit 1.7gb on pretty well every map (also at playable framerates)

    Normally I would totally agree with you, but there are a few games (like Crysis 2) that are odd ducks and really take advantage of the extra GPU memory
     
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    You sure that is GPU memory and not system memory? System mem yea I could easily see hitting a couple GB. Now if the 1.9 is being reported by GPU-Z or such, then I guess I have to eat my words. I never would have thought that this thing could use that much, but I guess under a good OC maybe. Time to play around then...and track my VRAM usage under a graphics game...
     
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    GPU mem usage as reported by MSI Afterburner ;) As I said though, Crysis 2 is a bit of an oddball in this regard.
     
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    Fair enough. I don't have Crysis 1 or 2 to compare with. Thinking about getting 2 though. My desktop will eat it alive and spit it back out, and from the looks of things the 702x will be able to play it decently too.
     
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