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    Return Laptop for 128 GB SSD?

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by Prince_Phoenix, Aug 9, 2008.

  1. Prince_Phoenix

    Prince_Phoenix Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    Should I trade in System #1 for System #2? Price differential is only $200? Basically the main difference is the 320 GB 7200 RPM HD and T9500 vs. the 128 GB SSD and T9300?

    System #1: $1317

    Intel Core 2 Duo T9500
    Windows Vista home
    Slim and Light LED Display
    4 GB DDR2 SDRAM
    320 GB 7200 RPM
    Everything Else Same

    System #2: $1527.78

    SYSTEM COLOR Tuxedo Black edit
    PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T9300 (2.5GHz/800Mhz FSB/6MB cache) edit
    OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1 edit
    LCD AND CAMERA Slim and Light LED Display with VGA Webcam edit
    MEMORY 4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz edit
    HARD DRIVE Ultra Performance: 128GB Solid State Drive edit
    INTERNAL OPTICAL DRIVE CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW Drive) edit
    VIDEO CARD Intel® Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 edit
    WIRELESS CARDS Intel Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-card edit
    BATTERY OPTIONS 37Whr Lithium Ion Battery (4 cell) edit
    SOUND OPTIONS High Definition Audio 2.0 edit
    FINGERPRINT SCANNER Biometric Fingerprint Reader edit
     
  2. KrieGLoCK

    KrieGLoCK Notebook Evangelist

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    I would keep the first one. you will find out that 128gb ssd goes by very fast.

    What computer is it? the xps m1530? or the 1330?

    But keep the first one for sure.
     
  3. pardes3

    pardes3 Notebook Evangelist

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    If I was you I would drop the processor to t8300, and get the SSD. I have SSD drive and it is amazing. You can also reduce ram and upgrade for way cheaper from newegg.
     
  4. valval

    valval Notebook Guru

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    What do you mean by "goes by" very fast? If it lasts 4 years that will be enough.
     
  5. pardes3

    pardes3 Notebook Evangelist

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    he meant using up 128 GB ....
     
  6. KrieGLoCK

    KrieGLoCK Notebook Evangelist

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    I meant that if you have videos, music, games, it aint going to last long.

    :p

    I'd take space over SSD any day.

    Just wait for SSD to take it's time and come to the 1TB marks, then it will be worthwhile :p
     
  7. valval

    valval Notebook Guru

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    My current desktop has only 80GB. I really do not understand what can you legally have that takes up more than that, except when you are creating Videos and/or animation on your computer (in which case you wound'nt buy a dell but a mac to begin with).
     
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    KrieGLoCK Notebook Evangelist

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    Uh well, legally or not, it will criple you. Now and in the future.

    Think about it, you game alot, each game takes about 6-10gb now, documents, pictures, music, videos (legal or not that's not the point)

    You where asking which one would be better.

    I said keep the one you currently have, you have more space for the future.

    I have 250GB and i just got my system a few days ago, haven't put any videos on it yet which is about 70GB.
     

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  9. valval

    valval Notebook Guru

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    Yeah even with 10 games of 6GB installed (I doubt you play 10 games at the same time from a friggin laptop>?!) and vids and all that, without having say 300 GB of illegal ****, you don't need more than 128 GB.

    And if you really need extra space you can always get a portable USB hdd.
     
  10. KrieGLoCK

    KrieGLoCK Notebook Evangelist

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    The point is not playing 10 games at the same time думбасс, it's beeing able to have the storing capacity.

    And of course you will need more than 128gb in the future.

    External HD's are a pain.

    And who said 300GB of media was illegal to have?

    Pshh нообс....
     
  11. bikerboy94

    bikerboy94 Notebook Evangelist

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    flight sim x takes 14gigs and thats just 1 game plus you dont really get 128 gigs of useable space.
     
  12. chase17

    chase17 Notebook Consultant

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    I think the point is everyones space needs are different. End of story. 128gig SSD would do me just fine. My 2 year old XPSM1210 came with a 60gig and still has 30 gig free space.
     
  13. Prince_Phoenix

    Prince_Phoenix Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    I heard the number of read/write cycle is terrible for the new SSDs?

    I don't need that much space. I only use 70 GB of my 100 GB HD right now.

    I've been told to wait for future versions because of the read/write cycle by others.
     
  14. atbnet

    atbnet Notebook Prophet

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    I plan on getting the 128 GB SSD with my next notebook. My 150 GB Raptor now is nowhere near full even with a lot of software installed on it. Everything else goes on my home server.
     
  15. valval

    valval Notebook Guru

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    I've been told it's actually much faster than normal HDD. So ...
     
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    RCcola159 Notebook Guru

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    If you feel that you want it and it will suit your needs, go ahead and get it. No use in debating whether or not you will need the storage. Only you know how much storage you need. Everyone has different needs.

    Also, 3-4 CD's ripped in WMA lossless is also around a gig. So for people with a large collection, it is an issue. Not just "illegal" content.
     
  17. Jonno000

    Jonno000 Notebook Consultant

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    There are more differences than just storage between a 7200 rpm 320GB HD and a 128GB SSD. Speed and reliability anyone? If you don't need more than 128GB of storage then the choice is obvious (if you think $200 and a little weaker CPU is worth it). If you do, its either the HD or buy an external drive.
     
  18. chase17

    chase17 Notebook Consultant

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    I store tons of relatively large files from my digicam(7megs each).. still loads of room on my tiny 60gig drive. No games. No movies. 128 meg SSD or, lets live a little... a 256meg SSD will be my next drive. HARD.
     
  19. Daedric

    Daedric Notebook Consultant

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    @valval,

    It seems that you have already made up your mind to get the SSD. By what your saying, you don't need a lot of space and you want the faster drive. So simply just go get it, lol.
     
  20. Prince_Phoenix

    Prince_Phoenix Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    My concern still hasn't been addressed. The amount of storage doesn't matter. 128 GB is plenty.

    My concern is the reliability of SSD. There are limited write cycles. Flash memory cells wear out. So within 3-4 years, I lose my data. DRAM-based SSDs don't. Which one is the 128 GB?
     
  21. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    All hard drive SSDs are flash memory. DRAM loses data the moment power goes out :eek:.

    Anyway, they do employ wear leveling techniques that increase the total life. What you need to be concerned with is if the hard drive is SLC (single level cell) or MLC (multi level cell).

    SLC drives have a projected life time measured in decades...and maybe even up to 140 years.

    MLC drives have a 3-10 year life time...about the same as a hard drive.

    Personally, I am not convinced yet as the technology is not mainstream yet nor have their durability claims been proven (yet). I will always prefer a good multi-hard drive backup solution to an SSD.
     
  22. valval

    valval Notebook Guru

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    I already bought it :D I'm waiting for the laptop to come. But I'm not the one asking the threads' question :p

    As for loosing data: DUDE in a laptop are you actually thinking when you are saying that a mechanical HDD has a higher life time in a LAPTOP than a SSD? You certainly made me laugh.

    As for durability in time: I don't expect to use this laptop more than 3-4 years. So if it lasts that long, all good :D
     
  23. chase17

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    Exactly. My current XPSM1210 is two years old. I'm definately getting a new one in the next 3-6 months or so.
     
  24. valval

    valval Notebook Guru

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    You're good. I stayed with my Sony Vaio TR3A (Pentium M 1 Ghz, 512 Mb RAM, Wi-fi, 40GB HDD, no video card, 11'' diagonal screen) for almost 5 years now :D
     
  25. RedBaronK

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    128gb sounds way too small of a hardrive these days to really be useful..... i have 320 and it only has 60 gig left, and i bought this laptop in feb 2008
     
  26. jon_m

    jon_m Notebook Guru

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    In terms of drive failure/data loss - both types of drives can go, due to hardware failure or other reasons (being dropped, stolen, doused in coffee, etc). If you've got data on a laptop that you don't want to use, make sure you back it up...
     
  27. pinnochio

    pinnochio Notebook Enthusiast

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    You Really REALLY need to get out more!!