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    Studio Illuminated Keyboard into XPS M1530? They look identical! - DOES NOT WORK!

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by Forte, Jun 27, 2008.

  1. Forte

    Forte NBR's Supreme Angel

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    I've been looking at pictures from both the Studio 15 and the XPS M1530 and the keyboard keys look identical and the dimensions seem to be identical as well. Is it possible to stick a Studio 15 keyboard into the M1530, install the drivers for it thus enabling the XPS M1530 to have a black illuminated keyboard?
     
  2. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    I was going to try it with vostro once i can get the part number and compare the two parts
     
  3. shootydogthing

    shootydogthing Notebook Guru

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    1) where's the power coming from?
    2) Will the actual lights take up extra space underneath
     
  4. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    We gotta wait till someone is willing to disect one
     
  5. Forte

    Forte NBR's Supreme Angel

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    The lights dont take up extra space as they are embedded in the keys that for sure. It all depends on whether the connector is in the same place and the dimensions of the keyboard are the same.

    Hopefully someone who owns a M1530 will be enthusiastic and motivated enough to attempt to do it. It would really make my day if it works.
     
  6. emclo

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    I wonder if you could just call dell and try to order a replacement keyboard for the studio 15?
     
  7. Forte

    Forte NBR's Supreme Angel

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    Yeah you can, but you have to be willing to pay for it.
     
  8. pardes3

    pardes3 Notebook Evangelist

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    ummmm ... if I had an m1530... I would pay for it and try it. And return it for full refund if it did not work. Same 30 day satisfaction guarantee applies to parts as well.
     
  9. Dreon

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    Yea that would be really nice if you could do that. I'd definately pay for that one.
     
  10. millermagic

    millermagic Rockin the pinktop

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    I have looked at the service manual for the studio 15. The connector (well ribbon end) is the same and the location is the same.

    I want to try this on my 1520 (or 1420) when they get on ebay.
     
  11. nizzy1115

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    But is the power the same across the connectors? I would think the non lit ones would use less power and maybe the connectors dont send the same wattage to the keyboard.
     
  12. jaycee

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    This is interesting. Wondering if this would work for the M1330 as well since they use the same keyboards.


    Could really use the backlight working on flights instead of annoying my seat mates with the often too bright overhead lights..which is useless anyway since I got a glossy screen.....


    side benefit, I could finally get rid of that ugly silver keyboard...
     
  13. mattocs

    mattocs Notebook Deity

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    If one did this, would it void the warranty?

    I'd love a Studio keyboard on my XPS...but if something goes wrong, I don't want to fight to prove that my modification did not cause it.
     
  14. Bauer418

    Bauer418 Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't think it'll void your warranty, The keyboard is pretty simple to replace. But even if you could get the keyboard in there, keep this in mind:

    You'd have on way to control the LED's. Unless someone could develop software to control them, there's no point. The 1530 doesn't have an ambient light sensor (that I know of), so your keys would be on 24/7.
     
  15. captaineos

    captaineos Notebook Enthusiast

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    Omg I need this backlit keyboard in my vostro 1400 more than you'd beleive.

    The black would match perfectly too.
     
  16. mattocs

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    You could put a toggle swith on it to turn them on or off.
     
  17. Forte

    Forte NBR's Supreme Angel

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    There is confirmed a FN+Right Arrow Key here that turns it on and off. There are no physical switches to enable and disable illumination on the case to begin with external to the keyboard. The illumination is controlled from the keyboard itself so no need to worry about toggle switches and junk. If you can get the keyboard installed, you can turn illumination on and off with the keyboard itself.

    As you can see from the picture of the keyboard itself (the Studio 17 is used, but the lighting is the exact same on the Studio 15)

    http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/34436.jpg

    The right arrow key has the function for the illumination that is activated by pressing FN+Right Arrow.

    Literally, all you need is to install the keyboard.
     
  18. mattocs

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    Hooking the lights up to that stupid media direct button would be sweet.
     
  19. Forte

    Forte NBR's Supreme Angel

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    mattocs, read my post above. Ive just confirmed the turn off and on feature is in the keyboard itself. No need to add any switches or mapping. Its just a matter of pressing "FN + Right Arrow Key" to turn them on and off. Thats how the Studio controls it.
     
  20. mattocs

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    I would still rather have it use the media direct button. At least it'd get some use.
     
  21. msankadi

    msankadi Notebook Consultant

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    Hi

    I was wondering throughout the thread what the new illuminated keyboard looks like and is it worth the pain/dough?

    Would it be possible for someone to post a pic of their's please
     
  22. Forte

    Forte NBR's Supreme Angel

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    I dont have the balls to do that

    also, I saw that pic earlier too but I couldnt see any light coming through the keyboard.Sorry, I dont know much but isnt backlit keyboard suppose to have light???

    MnVn
     
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    That does look awesome...certainly enuf motivation for someone to go ahead and try it...lets see if I am the first one to do that

    MnVn
     
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    True, never though of that. Guess it depends on how many LEDs dell uses.
     
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    it can't be that much more. come on we're talking about teeny tiny smaller than yo mom lights!LOL
     
  28. precise2282

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    Where would you order the part for the keyboard? I'm willing to try it on my lappy.
     
  29. Polarix

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    Anyone orders me a backlight keyboard from the studio line, I'll put it in my XPS M1530. :)
     
  30. graememk

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    Would it fit in a 1330? i think it would be class good for typing in the dark lol! If I know it will fit I would definitely get it!
     
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    I know for a fact that the Studio machines use the same keyboard design that's used in all the other recent Dell laptops (1420/1520/1720/1400/1500/1700/1330/1530) with the obvious addition of fancy lights that leech off the power line.

    Dell is the type of company to reuse common parts, throughout all their lines. It's cheaper to design and produce one part that can be used on all lines then it is to design and produce multiple versions of the part of each and every model and line. Just look at the keyboards on all the 14"/15" machines, they are identical, same goes for the 17" keyboards for all the named models above.

    So with that aside, we know it's the same keyboard, so physically it'll fit in. The only constraints would be that the wattage that the Studio machine sends through it's keyboard connector will be higher then the other laptop lines. Another POSSIBLE issue, but unlikely is the ribbon cable will be position differently or be shorter - resulting in it not fitting in the other machines.

    Really I don't think either of those two issues are not a problem or unlikely to ruin our plans. So someone just buy one and try it already. LOL

    I'd order one but I don't know the part number nor do I know how you go about ordering the part. And I refuse to put it on my credit cards right now... lol
     
  32. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    I would say your post is a little "strong". We do not know for fact and will not know until we have the physical keyboard to compare. We suspect but we do not "know".
     
  33. Terenus

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    Has anyone tried asking a Dell tech, I know everyone is like why? But it wouldn't hurt right? Who's willing to sit through that? haha
     
  34. wywern209

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    good point terenus. gonna rep u for that.
     
  35. Bauer418

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    Small thinks could be slightly different, though. Just because the physical size is the same and the connector is the same, it doesn't mean that all of the screw holes on they keyboard are in the same location, or that each pin in the connector serves the same purpose. Small things like that are what you're really never going to know until you get the keyboard and try it.
     
  36. millermagic

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    I spent 3 hours on the phone friday with Dell. I might give it a shot on the cellular phone today since I have free weekend airtime.
     
  37. Terenus

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    I'm going to try the online chat later, hopefully the rep I get actually knows something about the computers.
     
  38. Bauer418

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    You'll probably have a better chance getting the part from eBay than directly from Dell's site.
     
  39. X2P

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    I have talked to Dell, Japan, Canada english, Canada french, America, UK about the part number.

    I learned from Dell America and Japan that it is not available yet as a replacement part so they cannot get the part number.
     
  40. millermagic

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    Did you ask if it was compatible?
     
  41. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    I tried and they hung up every time. I had talked to at least 3 reps from each country.
     
  42. gkizzle3622

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    someone just needs to f***in try it already, it's killing me lol
     
  43. X2P

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    As stated above the part isnt available from Dell directly yet and hasnt appeared on ebay etc as no one owns one yet.
     
  44. Terenus

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    I'll keep pestering the tech support. haha
     
  45. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    Ive spent about 12 hours on skype at trying to crack em with different stories... I hate skyp.. 15$ used for no good info..
     
  46. Terenus

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    Why don't you just chat online with them?
     
  47. Kreeeee

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    Use it to boot firefox.
     
  48. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    I was often cut off online by them saying a rude comment, such as "screw off", "lrean to type" ( i had proper grammer etc and spelling they had typos hence the lrean. So I sent emails and started phoning around like crazy
     
  49. booji

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    Controlling the backlit keyboard would be no problem. The most recent version of the Dell Quickset utility (released June 26, 2008) has the feature to turn on or off the keyboard backlight.
     
  50. eL_eRiC

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    Here is what I got. And my last name is not actually Lindo.

    11:56:51 PM System System
    Thanks for choosing chat for your Dell Purchase needs. A chat agent will be with you shortly.
    11:58:51 PM System System
    Thanks again for your patience. Chat agents are eager to help you with your purchase, so stay on line and the next available sales consultant will assist you.
    12:13:26 AM System System
    You are now being connected to an agent. Thank you for using Dell Chat
    12:13:26 AM System System
    Connected with BE_Rep_Allen_D
    12:13:26 AM Agent BE_Rep_Allen_D
    Welcome to Dell's XPS Sales Chat! I hope you are doing well and thank you for waiting. My name is Allen. I will be your personal sales agent, please provide your e-mail address and phone number where I can contact you in case we get disconnected. How may I help you with your purchase today?
    12:13:31 AM Customer Eric Lindo
    Hi
    12:13:34 AM Agent BE_Rep_Allen_D
    hello Eric.
    12:13:56 AM Customer Eric Lindo
    I was wondering, are the Studio 15 and XPS m1530 keyboards interchangable?
    12:14:11 AM Agent BE_Rep_Allen_D
    no its not,
    12:14:22 AM Customer Eric Lindo
    Are they the same size?
    12:14:36 AM Agent BE_Rep_Allen_D
    the keyboard of the xps m5130 is just for that system.
    12:14:41 AM Agent BE_Rep_Allen_D
    1530*
    12:15:17 AM Customer Eric Lindo
    but I am positive that the Vostro 1500 and XPS keyboards work on eachothers computer
    12:15:27 AM Customer Eric Lindo
    so why not the studio?
    12:15:56 AM Agent BE_Rep_Allen_D
    because it has a different design,.
    12:16:38 AM Customer Eric Lindo
    but they are the same size correct?
    12:17:26 AM Agent BE_Rep_Allen_D
    no they are not.
    12:17:51 AM Agent BE_Rep_Allen_D
    the studio keyboard is different from the xps.
    12:18:12 AM Customer Eric Lindo
    why?
    12:18:22 AM Customer Eric Lindo
    they do have the same measurements
    12:19:31 AM Agent BE_Rep_Allen_D
    its because we don't offer it online.
    12:21:24 AM Customer Eric Lindo
    but if I somehow got a Studio keyboard would it work?
    12:21:42 AM Agent BE_Rep_Allen_D
    well you can try it,
    12:21:57 AM Customer Eric Lindo
    so your saying that you don't know?
    12:22:42 AM Agent BE_Rep_Allen_D
    to be honest with you yes,
    12:22:52 AM Customer Eric Lindo
    thank you for being honest mate
    12:23:01 AM Agent BE_Rep_Allen_D
    no problem,.
     
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