Studio XPS 13 DESIGN FLAW!!!!!

"Opening the screen blocks the vent!!!!!"

http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/laptops/0,39030094,49300957-1,00.htm?autoplay=yes

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• Dell Studio XPS 13
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Think I see this post a few times here already...

 

this sort of design flaw will cause problems with almost everything on the system..

 

Yeah perhaps... but I did order the previous gen system M1330 w00t hehe

 

its not a design flaw.. who the hell opens the screen the ENTIRE way? its deff been posted numerous times and its also been posted that guy is a dell hater

 

ahhh I think you hurt ghost feelings, "complete idiot"? Eek

Although just to give a response on his behalf my wife for instance does a screen on top of screen desktop setup and prefers the screen to open to max capacity so she would have a problem. Where-as my preference is slight more then a 90 degree angle which would not pose a problem. Just saying it "may" affect some people.

Either way I would have gotten it if they had kept the "weight" in line as the M1330 as that's why I purchased mine for more portability

 

Hardly a design flaw.

The Macbooks have the hinge blocking the vent yet I see nobody complaining about that.. strange.

 

Newsflash, opening the screen all the way on a Macbook causes it to snap off!
everyone do the troll dance!

 

I don't understand, we are taking about a XPS M1330 not a macbook???

 

That was designed by a monkey. If it was purposeful, there should at least be some kind of warning in the manuals.

How delicious is your delicious irony!?

 

as the dude in the video mentions.. 90 degree is the normal angle for using a notebook.. therefore its a problem..

 

watch the video... 90 degree angle... it blocks the vents..

 

watch my mouth, LIKE THE MACBOOK? AND THE ACER ASPIRE 6920G? IT ISN'T A FLAW.

 

WOW I'm shocked
Is dell going to do anything?

 

Listen you arrogant nerd with no life. if the vents are blocked up air cant escape. THEREFORE THIS IS A PROBLEM.

 

if you look at the history with the M1330. Dell are notorious for heat dissipating problems.

 

Did they recently re-engineer this. My machine only very partially blocks the vent unless I open the screen past 135 degrees.

 

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lolz.

I love you Dell guys man.

Seriously. The HP guys are so subdued compared to you, it's hilarious.

haha

Let's be fair- it's not the wisest choice. I think "most" people put it at 105 degrees or so, which will block a row or so of the vent... air I guess will still pass up/down but I wouldn't think it would be "as" free flowing, you know? Now, whether or not that heat flying across the screen damages it or not is another question altogether. From what I can tell though, nobody has really said anything about it so I guess it's OK.

Oh, and by the way, if you guys really want to disprove it, post some HWmonitor screenies that show some low temps.

Get back to the bashing though... it's fun.

Oh.

Well that's very reassuring, Dan. Thanks for that! I think we should just take the word of the guys that actually own the machines rather than just making assumptions based on a single source.... I am guilty of that actually.

 

At 90 degrees only the top row of the vent is obstructed on my studio xps. Also its not completely obstructed, I'd say 80% of that row is blocked. Opening to where I like it blocks 1 and 1/2 of the 4 slots of the vent.

 

When one catches fire, i will believe you. Until then. don't you DARE be rude to me.

 

thats bad enough isnt it?

 

First you act like you know everything and are rude to other ppl here, now you are asking

 

People!
Would you mind to stop the fighting!!

From the video, the design definitely isn't the brightest, but:

We don't know how much space there is between the screen and vent - if there is a gap then the screen will deflect airflow - i.e. not cause a real problem.

An unobstructed vent is definitely better - but then too many people place design before practicality.

So, stop the fighting!

Or I may use that report button...

 

I wouldn't be able to tell you. I'm not an engineer or someone who designs notebooks. The video shows a TOTAL OBSTRUCTION at 90 degrees. This is not what I have at all. Now if I open it very very wide (130 degrees or so) the air goes up the LCD panel.

Whats the "safe operating temperature" on the LCD panel?

Where was that same air going before I obstructed more than 2 slots of the vents? Was it being diverted downward thusly increasing the air pressure and velocity of the air going out the remaining slots of the vent? Was it going upward all along? The air has to go somewhere.

Its not that I'm defending Dell. Its that I'm not blindly jumping on a Dell hating bandwagon either. If everything works fine and the laptop is not really that much more warm than my old XPS 1530 which has worked fine to date - you tell me. Should I really give a hoot?

 

If you refer to the NVidia failures - they are not a "heat problem" but a "heat cycle problem".

If you are speaking about a laptop that is per se hot, then it may be more than a slightly obstructed vent.

And also I believe a Studio XPS owner said that the vent is not problematically obstructed...

 

Heat problem how? Heat problem implies that the machine does not function due to heat and its not the case. Maybe your confused with the M1330 with the nvidia GPU. It does get warm to the touch but its not worse than any other laptops this size.

 

the dude in the video is reviewing the notebook. he has one.

 

look at the video..

 

It does get warm, but like I said the M1330 with nvidia has issues and design flaw, the sxps 13 gets warm when you use it like other laptops, not the same

 

Let's stop the arguing and stay on topic. I deleted several posts and if it keeps up I will close the thread.

 

Here's a screen shot on performance mode

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zakarydoks/3334832307/

 

Does nobody realize that tinselworm is right??? the macbook has the same "design flaw" and you dont see anybody complaining about it or saying that apple is dumb for making that design...
I have the studio xps 13 and ventilation is NOT A PROBLEM

youre just stupid.... do you really think dell would have released a product that wouldnt ventilate correctly? do you REALLY think dells whole design team just let that pass by? i dont think so. The ventilation is fine on this computer

now go back to your apple forum where you came from

 

dells design team let the heatpad issue slip with the M1330.. so i have no faith with them..

 

People! Don't start this off again!!

Else someone will head towards a ban...

And speaking about design flaws:
I wouldn't be certain that the actual engineers and designers share their ideas - every company can make a mistake, but I doubt they would make a mistake that would make a computer unuseable.

Also, as far as I can see Studio XPS owners do not seem to have a problem with their laptop... (at the moment)

 

The mistake was made with the M1330... its just pointing out the design flaw.. if the vent has 6 grills, then all should be open. if the lid covers 2 grills then its a design flaw as it prohibits the air flow.

 

even if they dont share their ideas im pretty sure that dell would not release a computer that wouldnt work
they test it for days upon days checking every little detail.

they would not miss the ventilation if there was actually a problem

 

The question is though whether the vents are really covered.
The lid may just deflect airflow.

And your video does not offer any insight into this detail.

Therefore, I suggest you let the matter rest and listen to people who own a studio XPS and actually commented that it does not cause a problem (for them).

 

you are just defending the laptop because you were not aware of the ventilation and latency problems it possesses. Your video unboxing clearly shows that the vents are blocked up.

 

they would say positive things because they purchased the laptop. People tend not to say anything bad as it cost them a small fortune.

 

Hi you my good sir.

U dont own a 1340, clearly, otherwise you shouldnt post this as an "issue".

The vent get blocked correct, but not the airflow. Its goes up and down, with the sama capacity. I would even say that the vent opening are clearly to big for this laptop, which is a good thing. Secondly i would agree that the latency issue are a problem for ppl doing recording etc, but will be fixed with bios or drivers, bound to happen.

Hope you having a good day, good bye.

 

actually if you go to about 4 minutes and 25 seconds into my video you can see that about 2-3 rows of the fan are not covered up

only one row is covered and the screen or lid doesnt even touch the body of the computer so the heat sort of deflects off of the display

 

How long have you had the notebook?

 

The regular Studio laptops have a similar design.

I have the 1640 (with vent design identical to 1340). The screen "blocking" the vent is hardly an issue at all. Air can still flow adequately out of the vent. My 1640 isn't running hot at all. The temps (idle or at load) remain the same whether I have the screen open > 90 degrees and screen at 45 degrees.

How can my 1640 with a "design flaw" run much cooler than my 1210 with vents that are very open on its left side?

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I won't deny though that the 1340 runs hot. Most if not all 1340 reviews mention that its temperatures are quite higher than normal. But what I'm saying here is that this high temp is not due to the screen-blocking-the-vent at all.

 

its like this on my studio and there has been no issues with it. It still runs very cool.

 

for about 2 or 3 weeks now

 

there you go. most problems arise 4-5 months into its life.. Just like the M1330 everyone was happy at the start. But then look what happened.

 

This is really no concern of yours ghost
You're just trying to ruffle everyones feathers. I am not making anymore posts in this thread!

 

Dont say i didn't warn you ... the underneath of the laptop is metal, so maybe if you used a notebook cooler, it would help..

 

its kind of obvious this just deflects the airflow, it dosent block or restrict it. he obviously has no clue how much testing a notebook undergoes before its released.

just because a reporter reports something, dosent make it the absolute truth.

both the cost of honoring warranties and the cost of the bad press is a lot for a company, if the testing is not sufficient.

the xps1330's issues were mainly due to the then unknown problems with the Nvidia chips.

 

Just give up, i know whats wrong, you got an M1330 and it went wrong, boohoo. Not only did it go wrong, you wanted the SXPS, ∴ are trying to make others think that it is bad ∵ you want it and can't have it, but you 'wont get it because the airflow is changed by the screen...

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