Studio XPS 1647 internals and SXPS 1645

Can someone take a picture of their SXPS 1647 with the back cover off?

And the SXPS 1647's CPU socket can take the i7-820QM, correct? Is its cooling and other stuff fit for that?

Also, if I put an i7-820QM into a SXPS 1647, would I need toe SXPS 1645 BIOS or SXPS 1647 BIOS? The SXPS 1647 motherboard will have an ATI 5730

Thanks!

 

Pretty sure that the 820 won't work with the mobo in the 47... Anyone want to chime in to back that up...?

 

What if I installed the A09 SXPS 1645 BIOS, turned off, replaced it with the 820QM, and then booted?

In Canada only the SXPS 1647 mobos have the ATI 5730, even though on Dell.ca the Core i7-720QM can be configured with an ATI 5730

 

The mobos can support the same GPU and still have a different chipset controlling the proc. and other things....

 

regarding the installation and replacement of the CPU... I wouldn't do it. Not real sure what COULD happen, but who knows it could be REALLY bad....

Read up on the 2 processors and just look at which chipset is supported for each... If they are different, you cannot use them together...

EDIT: The 1647 processors are all Arrandales that are 32nm where the 820 is 45nm... Sorry my friend, it just won't work.

 

Wrong wrong wrong...

32nm, 45nm, ... it doesn't matter a thing. The Arrandale and Clarksfield CPU's can be both used in the HM55 (used for the 1647) or in the PM55 (used for the 1645) chipset. The chipsets don't differ very much. If I remember correctly the HM55 has IGP support, while the PM55 doesn't. So physically it's perfectly possible yes.

For example: Asus uses an Intel HM55 chipset in combination with a Core i7 720QM on there G73JH, while they use an Intel PM55 chipset in combination with a Core i7 720QM on their N61JQ.

The only thing that probably would give a problem is the BIOS support. And i'm not sure if you can flash an HM55 mobo with a BIOS made for the PM55.. Maybe someone else can clear this up? Or you might aswell try it yourself

 

Go for it man, good luck.

 

I'm pretty sure the 1647 is being shipped with a PM55 anyhow, I know it says HM55 on the Dell but people have been recieving PM55, and complaining.
I would think you would have to use the 1645 BIOS though

 

I dont think install the BIOS of 1645 would be easy on 1647. Dell Bios utility first verifies the system and if it doesnt match it doesnt update. Maybe BIOS mod would be required.

 

OK then what would you guys think is a better deal for me?

- i7-820QM with an ATI 4670
- Some i5 or maybe i7-620M with an ATI 5730?

Also, what are the motherboards with the ATI 5730 that also take the i7-720QM by default? Are those SXPS 1645 mobos? The Dell rep said in Canada only the 1647 has the 5730, however on Dell's site the i7-720QM have the 5730, meaning the 1645 has it right?

 

The 1645 does have the 5730.

I would stick with the 620 w/5730 personally....

 

Ya I've been trying to get that through to Dell for so long but technical support keep saying that no only the 1647 has it. So they refuse to send me a 1645 mobo with the 5730 but they are sending me a 1647 laptop with the 5730 ... Now I just wanna transfer my i7-820QM to that laptop somehow ...

 

How are you getting the replacement with the new GPU?? I tried to get the MB replaced with the new GPU but they said they can only replace with the same GPU or even with a system replacement they will send the same exact specs...

 

LIES LIES LIES!!!!! haha get escalated bro... I don't here of many who get there who haven't been helped....

 

The tech was offering me a MB and Heatsink replacement or System Exchange. I denied both. He said he doesnt have his managers on weekend. So I am gonna call on Monday and ask for a manager and get things escalated... Hope for the best..

 

I wish you luck man

 

Ok guys I want to clear some things up here so please read it all. I already opened a post about upgrading 1647 to core i7 and here is what is going on.

I currently got a core i7 820qm CPU from Ebay to replace my 1647 core i5 430m CPU. The one that I got from EBAY was a ES model meaning it was a sample model. Someone from Dell community contacted me and said these things:

reply #1:What you purchased is an engineering sample CPU - which, beyond what follows, is illegal for sale. Intel requires non-disclosure agreements when it sends engineering samples to manufacturers, testers, etc. which preclude selling the samples when they're done with them. Such CPUs are routinely used in durability testing - overclocked, over-voltaged, throttled beyond redline, etc. -- in other words, they're designed to be abused, and many have been. So, even if you obtain one, they're not reliable.

Beyond that, they're not multiplier locked - so even if they're in working order, they won't work on a system that doesn't have a provision for manually setting the multiplier. Your Studio is such a system.

Translation: this CPU is not going to work on your system. Send it back for a refund and buy a warranted, for-sale authentic Intel production CPU.

reply #2: The ES in the CPU code you listed means Engineering Sample. These WILL NOT work in your system (and are VERY, VERY risky buys).

Engineering samples are the beta software of the software industry or the prototype cars of the automotive world - they are NOT intended for sale.

reply #3: About the only way EBay sellers can make money on CPUs is to sell either high-demand discontinued models, or engineering samples. There is no way they could make much money on selling legitimate production CPUs when large companies buy them by the thousands, with discounts accordingly.

The biggest issues with engineering samples are that they've been used in ways that can cause damage - you have no way to know whether the CPU is in fact in working order -- and the damages can be insidious (resulting in calculation errors, etc.). You also have no way to know whether their lifespan will be a normal one, and without the clock multiplier lock they simply won't work in most production notebooks.

It is indeed a violation of Intel's NDA to sell an engineering sample - presumably if Intel wanted to it could trace the CPU serial number to the original owner and perhaps bar them from receiving future ES chips.

Now here is the deal. I sent back the CPU after what this guy wrote (He is very helpful bty) and got refunded. I ordered a 720QM immediately from Ebay. (NOt a sample model) The CPU has this code on it: SLBLY V012A008. Now I tried to install the new core i7 720QM and I still F****** get the same error. I sent him another message today and here is what he said this time:

This system does support the CPU in question, so that would mean one of two things:

Either the CPU isn't what it appears to be, or it is faulty.

Did you purchase it at retail from a valid reseller, or on the wilds of EBay?

What is the S-spec (Code beginning with S) on the CPU?

AND I REPLIED:

I don't think the 2 cpus that I bought from Ebay would be faulty. I mean it is exactly the same problem. The guy who talked to said he got this NEW from Intel as OEM. He has %100 feedback as well as the other guy who i bought the ES model. The code says: SLBLY V012A008. I really don't think it is the CPU honestly !

Anyways, this is pissing me off a lot. I have PM55 chipset for sure just like the 1645 system. I checked it via CPU-Z and it shows my chipset as PM55. I know for a fact that (I researched on internet extensively) that this chipset support core i7. Well, since both core i7s did not work. I seriously think the BIOS is not seeing my CPU and I have no Idea why! I contacted to Dell (A very helpful supervisor) and has been emailing him. He will contact a technician and let me know what might be causing this problem. The "decrease volume media key" keeps blinking! Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

 

UPDATE FOR TODAY: I have tried to apply 1645 bios to my 1647 and the software says that it is incompatible with my system. So yeah after numerous attempts to install core i7 820Q, and 720QM to my 1647, I am positive that 1647 do not accept core i7 processors! CPU-Z shows my system board as PM55 but I THINK THE BIOS INSTRUCTIONS NEED TO BE MODIFIED IN ORDER FOR 1647 SYSTEM BOARD TO RECOGNIZE THE CORE I7 CPUS! I AM PRETTY POSITIVE ON THIS ONE. SO UNTIL SOMEONE MODIFIES THE 1647 BIOS FOR ACCEPTING CORE I7'S DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME AND GET A CORE I7 CPU FOR 1647. IT WON'T WORK!