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    Tell me why i should order 1080

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by batman19, Mar 17, 2011.

  1. batman19

    batman19 Notebook Guru

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    i will be ordering XPS15 soon. i noted everyone is in love with the 1080 screen and hate the 720.
    Tell me why 1080 is better for me.... BESIDE the 1080 look nicer.

    I usually just use this for internet and light gaming. so no programming and other stuff that might required 1080
    Plus i will be hooking this up to 22 inches monitor too

    thanks
     
  2. NoSlow5oh

    NoSlow5oh Notebook Evangelist

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    Because every time someone orders an XPS with the 720p screen, a little kitten is killed.

    Seriously though, if you don't value a great looking screen on your brand new laptop, don't upgrade to the 1080p. It's all personal preference.
     
  3. batman19

    batman19 Notebook Guru

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    i mean what is the big diff? i guess i could fit more stuff on 1080 screen but everything get smaller right?
     
  4. xedge

    xedge Notebook Enthusiast

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    lol
    yeah can't really tell you why but why I did is because I travel a lot & wanted the great looking screen when I am away from my external 23" Dell U2311.
    Plus is was a silly cheap upgrade through AAFES (military).
    And the majority of the folks who suggested it here were not wrong!
    I am glad I spent the extra $$ even if it meant less Starbucks more 7/11.
     
  5. xedge

    xedge Notebook Enthusiast

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    You have the power to change that :)
     
  6. NoSlow5oh

    NoSlow5oh Notebook Evangelist

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    Natively, everything will be smaller, but you can adjust that by changing the resolution or by changing a couple of other things. Essentially, the color reproduction of the 1080p is what makes it so great. One of the best screens on the market. The 720p screen is your low cost basic screen which looks grainy even compared to my 6 year old dell Inspiron 6000 1280x800 screen. I was very disappointed in the 720p screen when I received my L501x. It was the main reason I returned the L501x and bought the L502x.
     
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    FASTCLEAR Newbie

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    toronto Notebook Deity

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    LCD screens look good only in their native resolution. Changing to a non-native resolution always degrades image quality.

    What's unfortunate in this case is that the 1080 screen seems to be a better screen than the 720, irrespective of resolution. Many older people or people with poorer vision would be much more comfortable on a 720 screen resolution, as things would be more readable, assuming equivalent display quality of course.

    My dad would never be able to use a 15" 1080 screen, as stuff would be way too small for him to work comfortably.
     
  9. edit1754

    edit1754 Notebook Prophet

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    If you're getting the Dell XPS 15, you have GOT to get the 1920x1080 B+RGLED screen, otherwise the laptop will be worthless. The quality of the 720p is absolutely gut-wrenching (even compared to other 720p's), but the B+RG 1080p panel is one of the best screens currently available right now on a laptop of its kind.
    Ordering an XPS 15 with the 720p screen is one of the worst possible computer buying decisions you could make, so I'm helping you avoid it ;)

    The $799 base XPS 15 + downgraded service plan (-$55) + 1920x1080 B+RG display (+$150) + coupon code (-$70) = $824 US.
    Find the coupons here: Dell Coupons, Dell Coupon Code, Dell XPS Coupons, Deals

    I do recommend the Dell XPS 15 though. It's a really nice computer, but you absolutely have to get the 1080p screen.

    (All the downgraded service plan basically means is instead of having a technician come to you for warranty repairs, you have to ship the computer off to Dell and pay for the shipping yourself)

    If the 1080p screen is out of your budget, don't even consider the XPS 15 :p

    1080p is the most important upgrade option on the XPS 15 because the display affects everything you do. Higher resolution means less scrolling, and easier multitasking with two side-by-side near-full-size windows.

    do not settle for the 720p on the XPS 15. The XPS 15 is a nice multimedia laptop and needs a good screen to go with it.

    These images demonstrate the difference between the 720p (1366x768) and 1080p (1920x1080) resolutions:
    720p: (on 15.6", content is oversized, it's difficult to fit more than one window, and you will have to scroll a lot)
    [​IMG]
    1080p: (on 15.6", content is a bit smaller, which makes for a more comfortable, less-cramped viewing experience. If you've never seen higher than 720p in 15.6", you will be amazed at how nice the extra room is. If the fonts feel too small, windows lets you enlarge them while staying with the 1080p resolution)
    [​IMG]

    Even simple Web browsing can benefit greatly from a high-resolution: you won't be scrolling all the time, and you can fit two browser windows on the screen.
     
  10. [-Mac-]

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    Window Seven allow to change dpi, so there isn't problem.
     
  11. NoSlow5oh

    NoSlow5oh Notebook Evangelist

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    I completely disagree, and if you've owned both screens like me, it would change your mind too. LCD screens look BEST in their own native resolution. Doesn't mean they don't look good in another. I've used different resolutions in both screens and the 1080p still looks better in 720p than the 720p screen does in 720p. If what you said were the case, no one would buy a 1080p TV because only blue-ray media can provide 1080p resolution, and everything else is 720p/1080i or lower on cable.
     
  12. FASTCLEAR

    FASTCLEAR Newbie

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    the 1080p is just a great screen, but remember when you have it you never wanna go back to anything less...
     
  13. pedram

    pedram Notebook Enthusiast

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    go for the 1080p screen!

    I had ordered mine L501x with a 720p screen and I regret it every day. I saw the same L501x with 1080p at my school and I had put my own xps next to it to compare it....God, the 720p screen is ..
     
  14. Ichinenjuu

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    I found that when adjusting the 1080p screen out of its native resolution, things became very "fuzzy".
     
  15. 4thehorde4

    4thehorde4 Notebook Consultant

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    I have personal experience with both screens as I initially ordered the L501x with the 720p. Upon receiving it I immediately regretted it and spent hours on the phone with Dell to convince them to let me exchange without fees. Upon receiving the B+RGLED 1080p, the difference to me was beyond night and day. Aside from the higher resolution, the B+RGLED has way better contrast ratio, color gamut, and viewing angles. The 720p made me feel like I had issues with my vision and is a complete disgrace to the XPS and all notebooks made today.
     
  16. LoganK

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    I am going to have to completely agree here. I just changed my resolution to 1366x768 (matching the 720p), and the picture looks fantastic. There is no fuzziness (which kind of surprised me).

    Switching again to 1600x900, it is again quite clear and not nearly as cramped. At this resolution, there is a very minor amount of blur but a) if you couldn't read the full resolution, then you are unlikely to notice the blur here, and b) I could probably tune ClearType to fix the issue.

    After seeing the scaling here, I have to agree even more: save your money if you can't afford the extra $150. It is, after all, almost certainly the most important piece of equipment on your laptop.
     
  17. acruxksa

    acruxksa Notebook Consultant

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    because 1080 is a bigger number than 720 so it must be better! :D

    Seriously though, if you need convincing, you should just settle for the 720P screen. There's at least two dozen threads on here about how great the B+RGLED screen is and if that's not enough, nothing ever will be. ;)
     
  18. edit1754

    edit1754 Notebook Prophet

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    Well this might possibly be true if the 720p that comes with the Dell XPS 15 didn't suck so much :3

    Really, the XPS 15's 720p screens is in the same class (and sometimes worse) than than those in $379 budget laptops. I've seen it. Wonder why there are so many refurb XPS 15's in the Dell Outlet with 720p and not that many with 1080p? Because people are returning their 720p-equipped XPS 15's after they realize they made a mistake when not upgrading the most important part of their laptop: the display.
     
  19. acruxksa

    acruxksa Notebook Consultant

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    I'm with you, but this thread is analogous to me joining an electrical forum and asking them to convince me not to put my finger in an electrical socket. There's tons of info out there that says I shouldn't, but yet somehow I'm still not convinced. ;)
     
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    I think you should take the 720p, because if there is too much demand for 1080p, Dell may suspend the sale (already happened) or further increase the price and I still have to take it.. :D
     
  21. Ichinenjuu

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    I actually saw a budget Inspiron by Dell that had 1366x768 and yet it had a brighter less grainy screen than the 720p screen on the Dell XPS 15. I have no idea what that was all about, but I saw it, I kid you not. Must've been a fluke. :\

    I've also seen two Toshibas, same model, side by side. Same 1366x768 resolution. One was grainy/liney, the other was not. I don't understand how that happens.
     
  22. thisisdom

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    I don't think you need a 1080p screen.

    It makes games run more slowly in native resolution (I hate running games in non-native), it's way more expensive, it makes icons too small, and finally you could be spending that extra money on a better graphics card/processor.

    1080p = Fairly fast computer, demanding to play in native resolution.
    720p = Very fast computer + less demanding to play in native resolution.

    So 720p is the best for gaming/general performance (assuming you have a certain budget)

    And besides, if you're gunna be using a monitor anyway there's no point.
     
  23. edit1754

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    Actually, the screen is the most important upgrade on the computer. It affects everything you do way more than a better graphics card, faster processor, or a few extra gigs of RAM. Get the good screen especially if you're going to be using this computer for a few years.

    and Dell is not going to suspend the sale. The price has actually gone down since they brought the 1080p option back. First it was $195, then $170, and now $150. If they were running out of stock then that number would be going up.

    Well why risk it? With the 1080p you're basically guaranteed to get an amazing screen, and with the 720p it's a lottery at best.

    Unless you're going to be gaming 24/7 on max settings, there's no reason to sacrifice the overall quality of your computer just so you can make a tree look better in a game.
     
  24. whackamac

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    Here is the real reason. If you get the 17 with the 1080p 3D, you will not get the "Optimus" graphics which MUST run through the Intel frame buffer causing problems for a lot of people. Including the Toshiba in my sig. I hate the frame lag. It sucks. And the my screen is only 1366x768. L4D2 has massive shader problems, TF2 gets frame lag, etc...

    The 1080p model bypasses the Intel chip and goes straight to the screen. You will get better and smoother graphics performance in games and the Intel hardware is not slowing things down.

    'nuff said.
     
  25. acruxksa

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    Except that the original poster said they were getting an XPS 15 and had to decide between the 1080p screen and 720p screen, both of which do have optimus. If however they want to consider the XPS 17, then thats a whole new set of issues. I hadn't heard about the lag issue with optimus though, interesting.
     
  26. batman19

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    OK first thanks for all the help. After i saw those two picture, i now can tell the diff between 720 and 1080. but for 1080 the icon and everything else is too small for me. is there anyway to change that. i like 720 much better.

    Plus i guess there is no way you can check out that screen at retail store right?
     
  27. edit1754

    edit1754 Notebook Prophet

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    On those pictures the DPI settings are set exactly the same. You can change Windows 7's DPI setting which will make text and icons bigger. Windows 7 does a really good job at this. It's really easy to change the setting.
     
  28. blingers

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    there are cheaper notebooks from asus, hp and acer with 720p screen and similar specs to the xps. so the 1080p justifies buying the xps over the competition
     
  29. edit1754

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    hence why I tell people "If you're not going to get the 1080p screen, the XPS is not for you."
     
  30. Fluffybug

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    ;p Once you've gone 1080p, you won't go back!

    Seriously - 1080p has huge advantages, flexibility to be able to watch Blu-Ray, and gaming in 1080p rocks ;p (I keep going back to it, despite the performance hit)

    For internet, the extra resolution is quite valuable - you can always blow things up, but it's hard to shrink things on screen to fit... At 720p, you'll find yourself running out of room...

    The extra gamut provided by the B+GRLED backlight is also excellent - especially if you have the ability to calibrate and colour-manage things... Excellent for photography - if this is something you're into...

    enjoy your 1080p!

    cheers,
    dave
     
  31. xpsfreak

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    hey dude! just get the 1080p man and be spoiled!!!
    i bet you will stop using that "so called" external monitor because of this 1080p bliss!!
    this display has spoiled me!
    n i see no reason to go for 720p display unless you are a die hard gamer(which i am),,still gaming at 900p or 720p is fine! a lil blur but the overall experience is awesum!!
    i just don't understand why you aren't settling for 1080p,almost everybody here is suggesting for 1080p one!!
    seriously dude,i can mail you a letter tellin that"""u gonna regret wid 720p""
    plz understand!!,even though i dont know u.,i dont want u to regret later by choosing 720p~~~
     
  32. ridhuankim

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    No No No!!!

    You must go for the 720p!!!! Yes you must!!!











    Then, if your friend bought 1080p, then you might want to convince yourself why you should have bought 1080p.

    You don't have to ask others.

    Ps. I am waiting for my 1080p to arrive so I can replace it myself. The stock screen is totally non-sense.
     
  33. URPradhan

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    * If you love to use your mouse frequently using scrollbars please go for 720p
    * If you love to see BIG fonts please go for 720p
    * If you love low quality pictures on screen, please go for 720p
    * If you love to play instead of work, please go for 720p

    I can not think of a laptop without Full HD screen for >15" screen.
     
  34. thumper300zx

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    Because the 1080p look nicer.