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    **The Official Studio XPS 1647 Intel Core i5/i7 "Owners' Lounge"**

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by DeathWalking, Jan 20, 2010.

  1. limpkin

    limpkin Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey Guys!

    I just received my xps1647... and i must say that i'm very impressed so far!
    Unfortunately, I can't get my soundblaster x-fi (pc card) to work with it!
    When booting, the computer beeps and I can see "Resource Conflict - PCI in slot 0A Bus:05, Device:00, Function:00.

    I guess that it is because another device (I think the ATI integrated audio has the same irq?). Thus I would like to desactivate it, but because of the simplistic bios i can't!

    Would anyone of you guys have a suggestion?
     
  2. Texanman

    Texanman Master of all things Cake

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    I think it is pga because when I was putting the paste on mine I noticed the socket and saw that it is the standered just one screw and its out
     
  3. limpkin

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    update: when desactivating all peripherals in the bios, i still have the same problem but the bus becomes 04 instead of 05....
     
  4. tenknics

    tenknics Notebook Evangelist

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    How big is the 130w adapter? I asked the guy I've been dealing with on the phone if it was the "slim" model like I read on these forums but he said he did not believe it is a slim model.

    Any info would be appreciated thanks.
     
  5. Straphanger

    Straphanger Notebook Consultant

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    From what I've seen in previous posts, it's double the thickness of the 90W adapter but not the giant brick it once was.
     
  6. nk290

    nk290 Notebook Consultant

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    You should be getting a slim model. It is a bit thicker and longer compared to the 90 watt, but it is a heck of a lot smaller than the standard brick (which is huge!). Make sure to demand a slim 130 watt adapter.
     
  7. tenknics

    tenknics Notebook Evangelist

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    Edit: No sooner do I type my last post does the fedex man show up on my doorstep with the 130w. I didn't know Dell was overnighting it :)

    Seems pretty slim. How do I tell if its the "slim model"? whats the model # I should be looking for?
     
  8. Locutus

    Locutus Notebook Consultant

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    i just got a 1647. should i wait to see if any throttling issues arise, or are they a definite? I should just call dell and get a replacement ASAP?
     
  9. fmac

    fmac Notebook Evangelist

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    I dont know if you noticed but you are writing in the 1647 thread, you have a 1645.

    Yes, call Dell and request the 130 watt adapter, you shouldnt have any kind of problems during that process.
     
  10. Locutus

    Locutus Notebook Consultant

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    sorry, i did not notice. thanks for the answer though
     
  11. EGM92

    EGM92 Notebook Evangelist

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    I just got my 1647 replacement with an i5 540m, I look at task manager > performance. It only shows 2 fields, isn't it supposed to show 4 considering it has 4 threads?

    Also I don't see the processor hitting anything more than 2.5ghz, how do I get turbo boost to function?

    Thanks

    [​IMG]
     
  12. csinth

    csinth Snitch?

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    Hey guys,

    I've been contemplating several laptops for the past week or so, but I've been completely ignoring the XPS 16.

    http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/coupon-Dell-Studio-XPS-16-Laptop/10806.aspx

    I'd be looking at this deal, which seems pretty sweet. I've been looking through the past few pages of the thread for anything that could perhaps help me make a decision.

    I know i7 runs hotter and uses more power than the i5.. I don't think I necessarily need an i7 over an i5 either. But the deal seems to require it, so I won't complain.

    What do I need to know concerning this laptop? I've been searching for things..

    I'd be getting the WLED 1920x1080 screen. I've been reading things about RGBLED.. does it honestly matter? Is this a nice screen?

    How are the temps with the i7?

    I understand I should get the 130w power adapter.. what about the GPU thermal paste problem? I don't like the sound of that..

    I take the build quality and keyboard are pretty good (backlit, yay!). Those were two things concerning me with the Envy 15, which is why I've been looking for other options. Thanks guys!
     
  13. chamba84

    chamba84 Newbie

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    go to page #1 post 1 he has a link to download turbo boost driver
     
  14. tenknics

    tenknics Notebook Evangelist

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    YO EGM92 the hyper-threading, 2 threads per core, is enabled/disabled in bios. Check your bios on startup to make sure it is enabled. Should be the reason... :)

    And the yea there is a turbo boost patch/driver just like he said.
     
  15. EGM92

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    installed the turbo boost drivers and turbo boost is now working, but haven't seen it go above 2.76ghz. About the hyper threading... I don't see it anywhere in the bios. anyone able to take a pic of their bios so I can compare it to mine...

    I have an i5 540m
    [​IMG]

    Just ran Windows Experience Index and the damn processor scored a 5.4! that's a worse ranking than my p8600 and far below the t9600.
     
  16. MattXPS

    MattXPS Notebook Geek

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    Don't worry something is wrong, your processor should be scoring 6.9, and if I open up my task manager I can see 4 threads. Not sure why it is not working for you but I am sure someone will be able to help :)
     
  17. EGM92

    EGM92 Notebook Evangelist

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    Got it working, I had to reflash the bios, maybe the stock factory A05 was corrupt or locked out. It's working now, thanks for all those who PM'ed with help.

    Now to wait for Dell to replacement my palmrest/keyboard tomorrow.
     
  18. spazefish

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    Anyone has any guess about if we will see a Studio XPS refresh anytime soon like within the coming 2 months or it's still far off?
     
  19. Texanman

    Texanman Master of all things Cake

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    wow ur only like the 50th person to ask that same question only to get the same answer..........


    @EGM92 thats weird that you had to flash the bios to get your cpu score
     
  20. melthd

    melthd Notebook Evangelist

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    say, i was wondering about the heat issues i've read many times in the Dell forums. What if somebody was to attach copper strips to the topside of the copper heat tube using arctic silver and a bit of tape? i've read somewhere that Dell intended the metal bottom cover to be a heatsink of sorts. would that work?
     
  21. klsstheglrls

    klsstheglrls Notebook Geek

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    The 1645 doesn't have any heat issues. I've gamed, and ran a few apps in the background for hours and never saw a cpu temp over 74c. I got a Lian Li cooler just to see the difference and now my temps stay around 50-68c. Wouldn't worry about heat.
     
  22. danevin

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    It's not the CPU, it's the GPU. Go play Metro 2033 without a cooler or anything and I bet it will throttle after a few hours of playing. However, it's not a RIDICULOUSLY horrible problem, but then again your room temps may be different.
     
  23. klsstheglrls

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    I play MW2 on full settings with our without the cooler and and haven't had a complaint. I'm in San Diego so its not cold now, but its also not hot. We'll see how she acts in the middle of the summer without AC in my apartment.
     
  24. 829as99d8i

    829as99d8i Notebook Guru

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    Hey guys,

    I've been reading in some forms that some people are claiming that the 130watt adapter could cause motherboard damage to the 1647 because the mobo chips can't take more than 90 watts.

    I just want to make sure you all know that there is absolutely no water in that argument. Dell engineers themselves have confirmed that the laptop will only take as much power as it needs... and the volts are the same. No damage will be caused.

    Play on :)
     
  25. fmac

    fmac Notebook Evangelist

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    No damage will be caused, Dell is supplying 130 watt adapters and the motherboard is the same as the 1645.. they should know what there machine can take.
     
  26. Turbe

    Turbe Notebook Consultant

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    I would add that from my testing, my 1647 is capable of drawing more than the stock adapter is rated for.. IMO, everyone should get a free 130w Adapter for their 1647.

    I'm not sure how much "headroom" the stock adapter actually has, but that did concern me.
     
  27. MWare33

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    I know there is an "Order Thread", but I just thought I'd let everyone know there don't appear to be any current production delays (for U.S. customers at least) on the 1647 with the RGB display...I ordered mine on 03/23/10 with the RGB and blu-ray upgrades and it's scheduled to be delivered tomorrow (03/30/10)...and I only paid for the basic "7 Day Shipping"...go figure... :) Oh, and I'm a newbie (very little computer knowledge), so I don't know if it means anything as far as the XPS line, but they are now offering the ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5650, 1GB with TV Tuner on the i5 Studio 17...though there is no blu-ray, 1080p screen or SSD configurable...
     
  28. sneer82

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    Has anyone noticed high battery wear? One of my batteries is already showing 9.7% wear, while it's still less than a month old, and it has only been recharged 3-4 times!
     
  29. JKleiss

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    I had this problem, 16% wear in the first couple of months after a few charges, but hasnt changed since for a few months
     
  30. fmac

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    0.0% wear for me.
     
  31. fmac

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    I am kind of wishing I would have returned my notebook. The 5650 is faster than the 4670. So basically for the same money I could have gotten a faster, cooler running laptop.

    Edit: Also, the Studio 15 comes with the 5470.
     
  33. fmac

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    I dont know, performance levels are very similar, the 5650 doesn't make a difference in this case..
    Besides, the Studio 17 is much bigger.

    What I am really expecting is probably a 5730 on the SXPS, that will make a difference for gamers, which is not my case..
     
  34. tenknics

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    Sorry I haven't really followed this thread much because I had a 1640..Now I got a 1647..Whats the very newest BIOS for the 47, that includes compatibility with the 130w adapter (just got that too). Is A05 the newest?
     
  35. Iceman82

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    Hi guys - seems like there's some speculation as to the next GPU. It's confirmed as a 5730 for the S-XPS 16. Slightly faster than 5650, which itself is about the same as 4670 (or barely better).
    Best part is it uses 9W less power, and should be cooler = no more temp throttling! YAY :D

    Try http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=451896
     
  36. tenknics

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    It has not been confirmed and it actually has been denied mutiple times. The 5730 is a generic part # in dell's systems because it be configured in other laptop models. It surfaced by accident on the Dell CA site on a build for the XPS 16 but then was later revealed to be just that, an error. Since then everyone and there brother has been speculating and wanting it so bad that they just assume its coming and spread that as if its official. Its not coming, Dell tech's said this after they tried to order for a few people in 1640 threads..it was a mistake..If you actually read the thread you just linked you'd would know this as well...

    Im tired of everyone saying the 5730 is coming when they have 0 concrete evidence..
     
  37. danevin

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    The 5 series refresh has already started. The Studio 17 models have already received the 5650 (with TV tuner) and the Studio 15 has received the 5470. It is only a matter of time before the SXPS16 gets a 5 series card.
     
  38. Iceman82

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    Oh, sorry. What did you make of Mkelliny posting the specs of his machine, with HD5730 included?
    Post #24 (I don't know how to link the specific posts like I've seen others do)

    I'm with you, I hate speculation that never deals in facts. But i thought Mkelliny and EGM92 getting it in replacement systems, and MadeiraG (tech told him "a week max" for this card, post #26) had confirmed it for us?
     
  39. tenknics

    tenknics Notebook Evangelist

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    No thats who I was refering too. EGM92's tech called back said it wasn't happening and couldn't be configured and he gave up and got a config with a4670...as for mkelliny he's still waiting but I suspect the same end result..


    Ps..why is everyone's name red all of the sudden? how do I change that?

    pss...first post on new rig!!! its awesome~ :cool:
     
  40. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Notebook Evangelist

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    Why would they use a 5730 and not a 5830? Just because the previous lineup got the 47xx?
     
  41. fmac

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    actually the previous lineup was a 46xx
    We assume that its going to be a 5730 because a while ago that card was available when you customized the machine, we know that it was an error and that gpu was immediately taken out of the site, but it might be related
     
  42. tenknics

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    So I have a question for you all and need some help..I can't seem to tell if my machine is running in dual channel mode or not..

    Just finally got this brand new 1647 all set up..I was sent another 4gb DIMM from dell and popped it in. Total of 8 gigs (4+4 matching pairs and type/speed), Windows etc. all recognize it correctly. I've gamed etc. all good..

    My question is in CPU-Z, (i have the newest version) on the memory tab it correctly shows that I have 8 gigs but all the other columns are blank..specifically channel #s and DC mode. screenshot:

    [​IMG]

    Why isn't it reading this stuff? on my old 1640 it displayed all this info..Could it be something to do with CPU-Z and the newer chipsets? Or is my computer running in single channel mode?

    any help or info would be greatly appreciated..:/
     
  43. JKleiss

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    Hmm interesting, it shows up fine on mine

    222.PNG

    What rating are u getting 4 memory in the windows experience index?

    Mine shows 7.4
     
  44. danevin

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    I just checked as well on my i5 and it doesn't show up either. Odd that I never noticed that until now...
     
  45. tenknics

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    6.8 but you also have 1333mhz ram vs my 1066mhz
     
  46. JKleiss

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    See if everest detects ur RAM
     
  47. melthd

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    Im finally getting my SXPS 1647 tomorrow :D so I can join this thread without feeling a little bad. Wasn't completely Dell's fault, though. Im going back to Malaysia to pick up the laptop, then flying back to Jakarta 4 days later. Im feeling slightly nervous, as this is the most powerful system I ever had. Trying to prepare myself, so from the insanely long threads, this is what Im to do (in order, one after the other):

    1. Install BIOS (newest for Malaysia is A05 13/03/2010)
    2. Install ATI Catalyst 10.3
    3. Install Turbo Boost drivers
    4. Install Intel Chipset Drivers
    5. Can't get the 130W adapter yet, because of the time window. But some people have said that the adapter ships almost overnight?

    Is there anything I missed out?
     
  48. tenknics

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    shows its all there and I ran the benchmarks and it ranked them and all. The SPD tap is still blank just like CPU-Z...

    Im pretty sure this has to do with the how the memory controller is integrated into the GPU now (at least in clarkdale/arrandale) and not the cpu itself. The gpu chip is on the same package but not the same chip (off die). So now when the CPU wants to access memory it has to hop off to another chip (just like it used to when the memory controller was integrated into the North Bridge, FSB days) which is now the GPU.. This could be why CPU-Z isn't working with the arrandale based i5/i7s..still too new..

    Jkleiss you have an i7 820m which is clarksfield and is based off the 45nm nehalem core where the memory controller is integrated into the cpu itself (on die). Thats why CPU-z works for you, that architecture has been out since late 2008 (nehalem) and your CPU is a derivative of that.


    Guess I'll have to wait for CPU-Z to catch up..
     
  49. tenknics

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    booom got it! yea its cpu-z..Just installed everest ultimate..teeehee...

    everything shows up..8gb in dual channel mode..1066mhz @ 8-7-7-20..hmmm...should be 7-7-7 but I suspect thats due to me havin' 8gb...ok im happy now :)
     
  50. ambient_6

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    Hi all,
    First-time Dell home PC user. Ordered 3/24, shipped 4/2, ETA 4/9. Originally wanted 15 model, but they couldn't confirm when Blu-ray would be available, so went with 16:

    Intel Core i5 540M processor (2C/4T, 2.53-3.06 GHz, 3M L3)
    6GB, DDR3, 1333MHz 2 Dimm
    16.0 inch Wide Screen 16:9 1080p Full HD RGBLED LCD, W/2.0 MP, XPS 1645
    ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4670 1GB
    128GB Solid State Drive
    Obsidian Black High Gloss Finish
    Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
    BluRay Combo Drive
    Soundblaster X-Fi Hi Def Audio Software Enabled
    Intel 6250 Wireless-N w/WiMAX (2x2) Mini Card
    9-cell Battery
    Dell Wireless 370 Bluetooth Module (2.1+EDR)

    When I ordered, normal discounts were the exact same as EPP, so nothing there. Not sure if EPP would have had different configurations.

    Learned a lot throughout 2400 posts, thanks for everyone chipping in. This is the kind of stuff I enjoy. Community makes it more worthwhile. Can't wait.
     
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