The new Dell xps 1530 slayer by HP

new HP Pavilion dv4, dv5 and dv7 Montevina based notebooks with nvidia 9600GT are coming out this month..watch out Dell.

 

I haven't heard what graphics cards are in the new HPs. The dv7 will probably get the 9600M GT, but what about the dv4 and dv5 series'? What will THEY be getting??

 

The DV5 was reviewed by laptop magazine and they said it has the 9600m GT. They said the Macbook Pro had slightly better game performance.

 

XD lots of mac books shut down due to heat and if that beats out the HP...

 

So would that mean that a Macbook Pro vs a DV5 with IDENTICAL specs, but the Macbook Pro with an 8600M GT, versus the DV5 with a 9600M GT, the Macbook Pro is better at game performance? The 9600M GT is a better card than the 8600M GT, even the 9500M GS (which is identical to the 8600M GT) is said to be slightly better than the 8600M GT. The 9600M GT is almost comparable to an 8700M GT. How could the Macbook Pro be superior in gaming?

 

I don't know, I just glanced through the review. Maybe I missed something. Here's the link.

http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/hp-pavilion-dv5t-entertainment-notebook-pc.aspx

 

Iunno I can't find anything, but I would personally think that the 9600M GT would outperform the 8600M GT any day of the week.

 

It's on page 2 of the review

It's probably just a driver issue seeing as how it's a new card. But all in all they were very impressed.

 

Well if so - 1530 slightly outperforms HP in 3Dmark 06.
Future DV5s performance seems to be identical to the current 8510w with FX570 and similar specs.

 

huh.... What I'm actually thinking is that when 3dmark06 was run on the macbook pro, it was run at 1280x800, and on the HP DV5, it was run at 1280x1024. The default resoluton for 3Dmark06 is 1280x1024, but this resolution will ONLY be used if the screen actually supports more than 1024 pixels of vertical resolution. The 15 inch macbook pro only offers 1440x900.

Basically, the macbook pro probably got a higher score because 3Dmark06 was probably run at a lower resoultion than the HP dv5.

If the HP dv5 ran 3Dmark06 at 1280x800, it would probably hit 4500~5000. Again, the 9600M GT is a better card than the 8600M GT.

 

Guess HP's GT9600m had DDR2 memory. In case of DDR3 it would provide a better results - similar to current GT8700m.

 

I wonder when Nvidia is willing to release the detailed specifications of the 9600M GT

http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_9600m_gt.html
Click on the Specifications tab

 

Some info on 9600m:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-9600M-GT.9449.0.html

 

Hmm.... Interesting. Nice specifications. But why is it rated under Class 2? Most probably a DDR2 at the time of testing. But looking at the memory clock makes me think twice... I would take a guess and say maybe performance wise, slightly better than 9500M GS, but slightly lower than 8700M GT. But still, quite impressive. Can't wait till the 9700m or 9800m being released at the near end of the year!

 

rofl 9500GS is equivalent to 8600M GT. Now if they threw in the 9650M GS... there would be increased performance. Seriously though, you can't say HP has the M1530 killer since it uses Montevina, Dell hasnt even leaked their Montevina designs for the M1530 at all, but I'm sure whatever they got planned will be better than the M1530. Its like the iPhone 3G, its got more features, functionality, battery life, all at half the price and a thinner profile.

 

Hehe i hope they dont if so i sell my 1530 right now but this 9600GT diapponts me 3900 in 3dmark06 isnt beating the 8600gt ddr3...

 

You guys do realize that there is no mention of processor speed right? I would suggest taking things with a pinch of salt until more information or reviews are available.

The 3dmark06 scores are pointless without the details of the system used to run it.
(Example)
I could jolly well honestly claim that I got 14k on 3dmark06. What I neglected to mention perhaps was that I was using SLI 8800M GTX.

If according to their tests, the MBP outperformed the HP 5 series, then any FX 570M or GDDR3 8600M GT packing machine, i.e. M1530, HP8510W, T61p, G1S should outperform it as well.

Also, as most of you might know, notebookcheck isn't the most reliable of sources.

 

Seems like it's barely faster (if at all) then, my M1530 with 8600GT pulls 4950 in 3dmark06 @ 1280x800 resolution. Stock clocks. 4397 @ proper 1280x1024 res.

As suggested earlier, maybe the laptop is running the inferior DDR2 memory. Either way, those scores don't point to an M1530 slayer at all.

 

Doesn't really matter which is better or which isn't. That's the art of speculation - The joy of eagerness and guessing of what's to come. Lighten up, read and just laugh about it. Rest assured, I don't just read and agree with everything or anything that shoves in front of my face either.

 

I don't think those dv series laptops have the looks of the xps. Probably the Voodoo Envy is closer to an xps killer but that doesn't have good enough specs. I'm still waiting for the xps Montevina refresh or Latitude e-series before I buy.

 

can't compare a future HP to a current dell, wait for XPS refresh

 

All the 9600GT is, is a slight increase in clock speed so it really doesnt give that much more performance. Its like upgrading your processor from T9300 to T9500. You get a boost in processing speed, but its still minimal. Notice the game tests compared to the 8600M GT are identical.

The M1530 successor is not going to be pwning with graphics card (though im sure it will have the 9600M GT) but it will take advantage of the 25% decrease in motherboard size thanks to montevina thus allows a better design and form factor. As well as all the other benefits montevina has in processing power.

 

Hmmm... Im heavily considering canceling my order (Sig) and waiting for either the HP or the new XPS. The thing is that it has to be under 1300$, so do you think I should or I most likely wont be able to get a better notebook for that price?

 

Yeah definitely cancel your order and wait it off a little bit.

The 9600M GT in the review probably just used DDR2 as opposed to DDR3 memory, explaining the low score. The 9600M GT is still a better card, by much? I don't know, but I know it is better.

Hey I'm not complaining, compared to the 8400M GS that HP used to put in their 15.4 inch consumer laptops? I'm not complaining at all!

 

But do you think I can get similiar specs for under 1300$? Thats the main concern. Maybe Ill get my since I got a 6 cell the shipping will take a while so I'll have some time to see some prices?

 

No one knows what the prices of new systems will be, but expect them to be a bit expensive when they first launch. If oyu need your laptop now, then get it now, if not then wait. Personally I could wait, but I chose not too, because I really would like to have it a few months before I need it so I can get it all ready and make sure everything is working good on it.

 

are u asking whether u can basically get the same computer with a better video card at the same price?

 

lets see if Dell steps up to the plate and get thier act together after stripping down all thier vostro and inspiron lines.They might look slicker but not on performance.It will be interesting to see the match up next month.

 

I believe that 3dmarks 06 is highly dependent on CPU. So without knowing the full laptop specs, you cannot really predict or assume anything about the Geforce 9600gt go series card.

 

Not really....... 3Dmark06 DOES utilize the CPU, but the GPU is ALWAYS the bottleneck. The tested 9600M GT probably had DDR2 memory.

 

Even with DDR2 it performed very well. And yeah compare it to the cards HP was using on the DV series. The new one is a significant improvement.

 

Yes an 8400M GS is complete fricking garbage on a 15.4 inch (considering they don't offer a gaming 15.4 inch like Dell does with their XPS line).

The jump from an 8400M GS to something between the 8600M GT and the 8700M GT (the 9600M GT) is probably the biggest improvement we've seen from HP in a long long time!

 

The new HP DV5 and DV7 series are now listed on the UK HP website

DV5-1000

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/ho/WF25a/21675-38187-38191-38191-38191-82049137.html

DV7-1000

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/ho/WF25a/21675-38187-38191-38191-38191-82049203.html

 

too bad the 8600gt is a better, faster video card...

 

The new dv series are in now way an XPS slayer. Sorry =\. They cost more for the same config. The only cool feature is an integrated TV tuner...but hey, how many people use their TV tuners when they aren't at home? Makes more sense to pay for an external one that is probably better.

 

if you're delusional yes the 8600m gt is faster than the 9600m gt.. and cheetahs

 

The 9600m gt isn't a huge performance increase over the 86, actually. No doubt it is better, but it's much more efficient and uses much less power...that's it's real selling point.

 

its not better, it scores lower. not to mention it uses ddr2.

 

i think the original poster jumped the gun a bit by assuming HP intended the DV series to compete with the XPS. it obviously isn't supposed to nor has it ever in the past. it is a competitor of the insprion/studio line though and judging from the few specs we know of the latter it will probably outclass it.

...and faster core & memory speeds.

anyways i was referring to the guy in denial's post. performance increases might be slight but lie or downplay it all you want, most people will gladly take a 96 over the 86 given the choice and if the latest leaked specs from Dell are indicative of anything, Dell will be making crappier choice for you if you buy a studio/inspiron.

 

everyone believes you

 

lmao funny guy. Yep loudog, everyone believes you lmao.

 

i dont see dell beating the geforce 9600 the HP DV5t has to offer in the 15" laptops..they need some catching up