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    Upgrade M1330 to Penryn

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by Philio, Feb 2, 2008.

  1. Philio

    Philio Notebook Guru

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    I bought my M1330 in December, I'm wondering can I upgrade it to a Penryn chip? The lower power and cooler operation would be nice, I did a search on Google and found a site selling them and it stated that the CPU was incompatible with previous chips, is this true, or would it work?
     
  2. duffyanneal

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    Works just fine. I've had a T9300 in my m1330 for a month now with no problems. I runs cooler and battery life increased a little as well.
     
  3. Philio

    Philio Notebook Guru

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    Superb! Thanks for the info :)
    Do you notice any speed increase, or is it really too small to notice?
     
  4. n0k3p

    n0k3p Notebook Guru

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    where did you find them at?
     
  5. Philio

    Philio Notebook Guru

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    3NZ0 Notebook Evangelist

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    These guys are a bit cheaper.

    http://www.scan.co.uk/

    Fantastic service, though the t9500 seems to have gone awol.
     
  7. mia4l

    mia4l Notebook Evangelist

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    Are there any US sites selling them?
     
  8. orion23

    orion23 Notebook Consultant

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    Where did you get the T9300 from?

    Thanks!
     
  9. vostro1400user

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  10. duffyanneal

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    Send an email to networld at ms79.hinet.net requesting a price list. I picked mine up in Dec. for $270 shipped.
     
  11. monakh

    monakh Votum Separatum

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    How big of a deal is it to swap the CPU? (Dang, there goes my warranty).
     
  12. monakh

    monakh Votum Separatum

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    This is what I got back from Mr. Ming Nan (networld)

    LGA771:
    X5460 ES Q3GX x 1pair USD 1600/pair
    Merom:
    T7400 ES QOLL B1 x 6pcs USD 170
    T7200 ES QTCI B2 x 2pcs USD 150
    Santa Rosa:
    X9000 ES Q4GY x 3pcs USD 420/each
    T9500 ES Q4GG x 15pcs USD 330/each ( 45nm , 2.6GHz , L2 6MB )
    T9300 ES Q4GA x 12pcs USD 250/each ( 45nm , 2.5GHz , L2 6MB )
    Txxx ES QZOL x 10pcs USD 210/each ( 45nm , 2.4GHz , L2 6MB )
    T8300 ES Q5CP x 10pcs USD 180/each ( 45nm , 2.4GHz , L2 3MB )
    X7900 ES QZDX G0 x 30pcs USD 380/each ( 65nm , 2.8GHz , L2 4MB )
    X7800 ES QZXR E1 x 20pcs USD 250/each ( 65nm , 2.6GHz , L2 4MB )

    Doesn't include shipping!
     
  13. n19htmare

    n19htmare Notebook Evangelist

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  14. vostro1400user

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    for ES version, you could get it much cheaper, just google 'Q9WW T9500' (revision C0).
     
  15. Trajan

    Trajan Newbie

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    A CPU swap on a 1330 is really easy. Its just one panel and then the fan assembly. If you do a search for it you can easily google the repair manual for the 1330, it will literally take you step by step through everything.

    Duffyaneal: is there any particular bios that you use for the T9300?

    Does that Networld dude have a storefront? I'm a little hesitant to try to buy something like that from some dude in who knows where.

    Does anyone have any idea when some of the major internet vendors might carry some Penryn upgrade CPUs? (NewEgg, ZZF, Tiger Direct....)
     
  16. traveller

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    Seating a stock HSF on a Desktop Core 2 Duo is a no-brainer but keep in mind that you have to seat the M1330 heatpipe on three separate chips with freshly set thermal tape / pads of the same exact thickness as the original.

    Btw, here are a few pics of the M1330 incl. one of the heatpipe and underlying chips.
     
  17. ellianth

    ellianth Notebook Consultant

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    YOU PROMISED PICTURES!! *SLAP*

    Did I overlook something?
     
  18. traveller

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    Lol, sorry, it's a link-to-a-link-to the pics...
     
  19. Nessnet

    Nessnet Notebook Consultant

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    Have you actually purchased from him?

    A 'review' of this vendor would be great. I'm inclined to 'pull the trigger' on a T9500, currently doing my research....
     
  20. traveller

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    FYI, in Germany / Austria the T8100, T8300 & T9300 go for €180, 210 & 280 respectively (prices include tax).

    Although all three are certainly fast enough, I'd aim for the T9300 'cause of its 6MB shared cache. The T9500 is not yet available here, but if it was, I'm certain most of us couldn't afford it... :p
     
  21. msjaneoly

    msjaneoly Notebook Evangelist

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    I was just about ready to pull the trigger on one from dell and it is the
    t9500 isn't this it? or no?

    XPS M1330 Qty 1
    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T9500 (2.6GHz/800Mhz FSB/6MB cache), Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition
     
  22. praneeth

    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    There was a recent review of a T8100 equipped Toshiba which was praised for it's gaming performance by Laptopmag.com. I think all of these processors will provide good performance.
     
  23. traveller

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    Oh yeah, that's the cream of the crop and if the price is right, get out that credit card :D
     
  24. BorjaZD

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    duffyanneal, have you heared any cpu whine in your t9300?
     
  25. msjaneoly

    msjaneoly Notebook Evangelist

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    lol... That's great.. Yup the cc went out..
    Will keep you posted as this one has to last me a long time or
    I will be divorced...lol
     
  26. monakh

    monakh Votum Separatum

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    No, I have not purchased from this fellow, but I think Duffy has. He accepts PayPal. I backed off after I verified that all these are engineering samples. Good price for a T9500 though. I think someone was selling a NIB (retail) variant of the T9300 in B/S/T for $300 and some change.

    My M1330 runs a lot hotter than I like so I would have loved to have moved to .45nm and the extra performance boost doesn't hurt either. Oh well, I guess I will wait for Montevina.
     
  27. lsramair

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  28. ruby123-huang

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    Hello,sir,where can I buy them,I'm interested in some of them, who can support me?
     
  29. specv

    specv Notebook Guru

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    the cpu doesnt wine, its the cooling fan on it that whines


    as for the penryn chips they will be available everywhere for retail at the end of the month. Im gonna drop a 2.5ghz in my m1530 when it releases. It is something like $350. I was gonna wait to order my m1530 when it came out but the only difference is the processor. So it is actually cheaper to sell my current processor and buy this.
     
  30. traveller

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    Lol, for a sec there, I thought you were serious... good one, he.
     
  31. CFoote

    CFoote Newbie

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    Hi all, I wanted to bring this thread back up to the top as I just ordered a T9300 to relpace my T7500. As has been mentioned, I will need to replace the thermal pads once I remove the heatsink. I've been looking all over for replacements and haven't had any luck. Am I stuck going through Dell for these?

    I did purchase a tube of Artic Silver, I guess there's no chance I could just use that and tighten the heatsink down a little further...

    Any advice is appreciated, the CPU will be here in a day or two :)

    Thanks,

    Chris
     
  32. traveller

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    No, you won't need to replace the thermal pads used for the GPU and Northbridge chips - those silly, sponge-like pads are reusable.

    The CPU itself uses good ol' thermal paste and you've already got that covered with your Arctic :cool: (I used my own Arctic 5 when my mobo was recently swapped out but to be honest, I didn't see any measurable decrease in core temps...).

    The whole process should take about 10-15mins. The screws around the zif socket are numbered and I assume should be mounted (& unmounted) in sequence (& I suggeest you start with the one screw over by the GPU before doing the ZIF-socket.)

    Before you go through with it, please use some "standard" method to note your temps @load (using TAT, for example) and try to do a A/B (before & after test in similar ambient temps). Be sure to let the Arctic properly "settle" before reporting the Penryn temps as Arctic must be allowed to cool down once before it is at it's best (i.e. power down the Notebook for a few hours, or better yet, overnight).
    Let us know how you fare with that little puppy :D
     
  33. own3d

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    Am curous, Whats the difference between "OEM" and "Retail" CPU chips?

    I know seperately what OEM - (manufacturer) and Retail are but not what the difference between and OEM CPU chip and a retail is..
     
  34. CFoote

    CFoote Newbie

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    Thanks for the info! :) I will definitely post my results once I get everything installed and stable. I don't know if you saw d94s post, but here are stock readings (i.e. factory installed Merom vs. factory installed penryn)

    t7300 idle @ 36C load @ 78C
    t9300 idle @ 27C load @ 61C

    Quite a difference if you ask me. It will be interesting to see what battery life will be between the two. Is there a program that would accurately measure that?

    Chris
     
  35. traveller

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    Oh yeah, those values are music to my ears :D

    Sorry, I don't know of an accurate way to measure battery life but there are a few options where you can do your own A/B. One example is running a CPU-intensive benchmark. For example, any of Futuremark's benchmarking tools will give your CPU(s) a good workout. Just loop it 'till your battery hits the critically low value. Better yet, choose a tool that is almost purely CPU-intensive, like a Pi calculator or Sandra's cpu benchmark.
     
  36. Kreeeee

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    I'm looking to upgrade my t7250 to a t9300. Just to check a few things:

    1 - http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=751134 best UK price considering I get free delivery?

    2 - I have AS5 + isopropyl alcohol for the processor and I can reuse the thermal pads

    3 - It will run at the full 2.5Ghz despite the RAM being neutered to 677

    4 - Where is the dell repair guide? Can anyone link me please?

    5 - I can expect better battery life from this processor?

    Cheers guys :)
     
  37. micloi

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    I will pm you with the info you need.
     
  38. BertieW

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    Can you PM me that info too please?

    Cheers!
     
  39. micloi

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    hi there monakh how are you how can i order the T9500 from you for my dell XPS-m1330 ?

    do you have website or phone number to order !
     
  41. mair

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    today i removed my t7300 and installed a t9300, and i noticed that the batery meter, shows less minutes at full charge, same power settings, is this normal, i read that penryn consumes less power, but a 7300 is smaller than a 9300, so i dont know if a reduction in about 10 to 15 percent in batery life is normal, or are ther some setings in the bios that i have to adjust?


    thanks
     
  42. AznGoneNuts

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    so what are you guys doing with your olds chips? anyone would like to sell me your old one? i have a t5250 :eek:
     
  43. mair

    mair Notebook Consultant

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    In my case, i am keeping it for warranty reasons, but i think if you want a used cpu you can get a good deal on ebay, you cand find this type of cpus once in a while there.
     
  44. HT2

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    1. Check BIOS version. I think you need A09 or latest A10 for Penryn.
    2. Penryn is better in term of undervolting. Read undervolting guide from here http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=235824. There is a risk so read whole thing and only do it if you are understand the risk.

    I am undervolting my T5250 to 0.95v and I am very happy especially run 10 degree cooler now. Battery status soft show 2:26 for full charge.(6 cell)

    I am also thinking to get Penryn.
     
  45. mair

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    thanks, i am running the bios A10, and i will read the guide you recomended and evaluate the risks, and if i do it i will post my results here.

    i think despite the battery power loss, that penryn has ben a wise decicion for me
     
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    thanks for the info
     
  47. skynyrd

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    Hi there!

    I have a couple questions for you:

    1 - Can I upgrade a Dell XPS M1530 from a merom t7250 (2.0Ghz 2MB L2) to a penryn t9300 ( 2.5 6MB L2)? (I assume is the same work you did with the M1330)

    2 - Do you think the difference will be big? Do you think it is woth doing it?

    Thanks!
     
  48. Mr.Brightside

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    i own a T8300, it is worth the upgrade to a T9300?
     
  49. mystery905

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    only if you give me your 'old' T8300 for free ;)
     
  50. Mr.Brightside

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    haha my old T8300 is not even new! i don't even get my laptop.. but ok, its a deal, i'll give you my T8300, you get me a T9300 =P
     
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