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    Vista 64-bit on XPS M1330

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by trebuin, Aug 19, 2007.

  1. trebuin

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    Updated this a bit.

    As of now, the fingerprint scanner only supports login and the Audigy MB is still not supported.
     
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    Thanks for re-uploading the file again Trebuin :D
     
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    Personally, I wouldn't bother with the software Audigy stuff. More overhead with no noticeable difference.

    On another note, wouldn't this add another $1-200 to the cost for the average consumer, being that they have to rebuy 64 bit Vista?
     
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    I have an inspiron 1520. Do you have the card reader drivers for 64 bit? 32 bit tells me:
    You have to run the 64-bit version of DPinst.exe on this machine. Contact the vendor that provided you this package.

    ANy help would be appreciated!
     
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    If it runs the same drivers as the M1330, it's in the driver pack as the Ricoh Chipset.
     
  6. trebuin

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    Well, I'm just glad I paid probably $0.20 for the Sony DVD to burn my copy of Vista to and used my same key to move over to 64-bit. Just had to call up Microsoft and tell them I had the OS installed on only one computer :)
     
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    Im looking for anywhere to download it. the Microsoft link says the offer is not valid for my Ultimate Key. I became a member of winbeta (free) and cant figure out how to get it there.
     
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    AHCI vs ATA fix posted
     
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    Trebby were up to 1/2 way there!!!

    Maybe I should start downloading all the drivers to disc now...

    Hey do you have a "How to on" overclocking the 8400m?
    and hey burning .iso to disk what do you use?
     
  10. trebuin

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    I haven't built an overclocking guide, though I have one in relation to the 64 driver signature problem (hopefully you don't find out). There's a new release coming soon for ATITool, but you can use rivatuner now. I'm running core 495 and memory at 720 for max right now.

    As for burning Images, Nero should work along with the software that was included. The image should be generic.
     
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    Havent got nero...I will just try and find a decent freeware one...

    I used one at one time when I was playing with Vista RC1 and 2...
     
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    I just want to add one thing, what you can do instead of changing this is to actually install the drivers for the AHCI:

    Intel Matrix Storage Manager
    http://support.us.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&releaseid=R154201&formatcnt=1&libid=0&fileid=205616
    Load drivers in the partition/disk select screen and use the DELL - Intel Matrix Storage Manager drivers (be sure to have these extracted on a usb-stick or something).

    Cheers
    Tiru
     
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    Hmm, has anyone had any luck in getting the fingerprint reader to do more than just logins to Vista?
     
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    No, no one seems to have gotten that working yet. I read something today on Microsoft's help section that they were claiming a conflict for their own fingerprint driver and the 64 bit OS. But that doesn't make sense since there are others that have their fingerprint drivers working with the 64 bit os.
     
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    Only login is supported

    64-bit version: 5.6.1.3419
    32-bit version: 5.6.2.3476

    Please, please call up dell and ask them to release the 5.6.2 version for 64-bit.
     
  16. BigCat

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    So I got Home Premium 64 bit set up and ready to go, but I have one problem left.

    When it goes to sleep, or when I close the lid to the laptop, it will not come back up with anything on the display. I then have to power cycle it and it will come back with the display working.

    Anyone else had a problem like this?
     
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    A lot of misconceptions in this thread. While x64 does have advantages, more secure due to obscurity, support for 4GB Ram + and some apps do perform faster (notably Paint .NET), most applications won't perform any faster. 32bit vs 64bit doesn't mean 2x performance just because 64 is twice that of 32. Also I don't know why someone would think that 64bit Vista uses less memory...just think about that for a moment.

    http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000435.html

    Though the article is old and talks about 64bit XP, it is still relevant.

    In anycase, how do you guys like 64bit? When I used it during the beta, and then RTM for a few months I didn't like the 64bit codec support. I like to use Windows Movie Maker and Windows DVD Maker, both of which are 64bit thus requiring 64bit codecs when editing non standard file types. Windows Media Player, however comes in 32bit and 64bit flavors, so 32bit codecs worked fine.

    In addition, even though you have a Vista license, I'm fairly certain Winbeta is illegal. If this thread gets enough attention I'm sure someone will request you take down that info.
     
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    I set up my 64 Bit Vista Ultimate system today and am typing on it now. I have a SSD and was surprised when my start times were reduced to 27-30 seconds (push button until internet confirmed). With 64 bit it is now about 19-25 seconds start up. I also find things even faster yet with both the 64 Bit and ssd...Ill be upping to 4Gb ram soon enough.
     
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    Three questions (probably answered elsewhere but this is a long thread):

    a) I understand that I cannot upgrade 32-bit but I have to do a fresh install. Is there any easy way to move installed programs (with registry settings) over from the old install?

    b) If I have the same partitions as currently, and simply wipe the OS partition and load 64-bit onto it, will MediaDirect work? (I rarely use it, but I'm not ready to let go of it.)

    c) My OEM license code from Dell will definitely work on the 64-bit version...right? right?

    Many thanks,
     
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    No, No and if you have a copy of WinBeta which is detailed at the beginning of this post.

    If you leave mediaDirect and use an oem or nondell copy it will become trouble near the end of the instalation
     
  22. trebuin

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    Last I heard, winbeta is legal as it was intended as a compiled development release and has a bit of support through Microsoft itself, as well as backed up by US Legal code 17 USC 117(a)(2). If you're not a US resident, you'll have to check on this. If anyone finds anything to show otherwise, just PM me and I'll be more than happy to remove it. I may be going on a short deployment through the next week and a half.

    Applications built in 64 bit will run close to 2x performance...bench above proves this as most of the components are 64 bit. As for 32 bit software...ask anyone running 64 bit here.
     
  23. a silent requiem

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    so, how long did it take to change from 32 to 64? how much work is it for someone who isn't a friggin' hacker? :)
     
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    Except for not properly loading the hard drive driver and spending a couple of hours looking around for a fix for my blue screen and then loading the thing completely again, it really only took me about 90 mins to completely load everything, programs included. Not a big deal. Only problem for me is the fingerprint driver issue.
     
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    It was about a 90 minute job for me as well to install and tweak it with a number of standard tweaks.

    Well worth it and thoroughly enjoyable.

    On a side note Trebuin has listed an XP Program that decreases your start time significantly...TuneXP 1.5. Its well worth the download for a number of other tweaks as well and yes....it works great on Vista.

    Presently, I sit just above 20 sec full start time
     
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    I did a google search for XPTune and it listed version 6.06 on ZDnet. Is that the same program?
     
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    Hi Flamenko,

    I have ordered a similar spec M1330 to you and I plan on installed 64 bit Vista Ultimate and getting 4gb RAM. Can I ask you what tweaks you have done to enable you to get a 20 second boot time. Is the 20 second time from hitting the power button until vista is fully loaded with the sidebar? Or until the login screen?
     
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    No...the login screen is the cheat many use. (lol) My startup is from press of the button until my internet is identified/confirmed which is the last process for me during startup before my screen is complete (with Sidebar/dreamscene and stardock menu bar).

    For now, I credit the speed to the 32Gb SSD, the 64bit system, using TuneXP 1.5 to sort and reset my boot files for the fastest boot possible and a tweak which gets rid of the TMM command. This command enables Vista to look for an external screen and gives you a quick blank flash on startup. I believe it is responsible for a 5 sec delay.

    Other than that, I have only used many of the normal tweaks such as cleaning the startup file and turning off indexing thus far. Once I have finished tweaking, I planned on writing an article describing what I have and what had been done to get there.

    If you have questions, please ask although I'll let you in on a secret... Trebuin is the genius behind the machine. His expertise cannot be surpassed on this website for tweaking, moving to 64 bit as well as over/underclocking.
    He led me to this point and just told me about TuneXP 1.5 last night.

    I believe his startup is less than 10 seconds if you would believe it.
     
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    Great post trebuin, thanks for the info and links to drivers.
    I am still running ATA as the ATA/AHCI fix did not work for me (the key was already set to 0) and the machine BSOD when I enable AHCI in the bios.

    what version of the bios do you have? A05
     
  31. Les

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    This happened to me as well. Can I suggest...

    Reinstall the Intel Matrix Storage Manager (AHCI fix).
    Dont do a hot restart; shut it off and do a cold boot instead.

    I did this and everything fell in place, whereas when I tried the hot restart I kept getting BSOD.
     
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    I'm still having trouble finding an x64 copy of Vista. I can't find winbeta's release anywhere else, and they are not serving it on their IRC channel. I have also tried various torrents with no success. Any suggestions?
     
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    Thanks for the heads up Flamenko that worked for me as well, very strange that one.

    Finished the setup now, still have three Base System Devices unrecognised in device manager, I know at least one of these devices will be the audigy EAX chip
     
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    I hate this blank flash and delay. I would love to get rid of it. Can you provide a link to more details?

    N
     
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    Here's how to fix that annoying black flicker on boot:

    Click on the Start button (pearl? ball? orb?).
    Type "Task Scheduler" and hit Enter.
    On the left-hand side, click "Task Scheduler Local" (you should already be there, but just in case).
    Expand "Task Scheduler Library," then "Microsoft," then "Windows," then click "MobilePC."
    Up top, you'll see a task called "TMM." Click it, and on the right-hand side, click "Disable."
    You're done.


    Rep me...or ninjaNoodles lol
     
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    Thanks! Rep given!

    N
     
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    I am in the process of doing a Vista Ultimate Retail 64 bit upgrade, I'm having trouble getting the video card drivers installed.

    nVidia Graphics (from laptopvideo2go)
    The diplay adapter installed is a Standard VGA Display Adapter, and i can't seem to get rid of it. I tried both the 163.16 and 158.36 drivers, I replced the INF file with the modded one. Do I click on dpinst.exe or setup.exe? It goes through the setup but in the end says no files were modified. I can't get it to recognize my nvidia 8600 GS! I can't tell if it's just doesn't recognize the hardware!

    BIOS Video controller = NB8M-GS 128MB

    If I manually try to add hardware another display adapter, and i try to use the nvidia drivers from laptopvideo2go, when i click Have Disk and browse to the file with the INF, nothing appears for me in the box to select and install. I'm pretty sure i replaced the INF with the modded INF.

    Please help!

    TIA!
     
  38. trebuin

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    Hello! I just wanted to stop in and check to see how everything is going as well as say thanks to Flamenko for helping others while I'm deployed. I was shooting messages back and forth to Flamenko when work called up and gave me one hour to show. I'll stop in every now and then to check messages when I can get a connection. I'm due back in Japan in probably just under a week now.

    Tysndr: laptopvideo2go's drivers are not always inclusive. I would recommend finding the Dell drivers and download that. You'll have to check the .inf file in there to see how your video card is identified. There's two lines specific to yours. You should be able to add that identifier into the other drivers alongside the slew of hundreds of others. Let someone on the forum there know too so you don't have to do it with every update. You should be using the setup.exe program.
     
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    Thanks, but i assume i have the same vid card as most ppl with the 1330, the Nvidia 8600 GS and i did see it in the INF file when I opened it up. Did you have to do any modifications to get it to work on your system? I couldn't find a dell 64bit video card driver, do you know which on it is?
     
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    Ahh...the 1330 comes with the 8400m GS or that intel x3100 I think. Dell has not released the 64 bit video driver yet. I don't know why your notebook isn't seeing the video card at all. I really hope you weren't given the wrong one.
     
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    Hey i got it to work! Thanks, I actually don' tknow what i clicked, i was so frustated i just mashed the keybard then it gave me all the GeForce options from the INF file, installed the 8600M, windows warned me that it didn't recognized that hardward and installing that driver could be dangerous, but it seems to work. Now to run 3d mark and see if my benchmark has improved from my 32bit install. =) Thanks again!
     
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    this might have already been answered. but i just want to confirm.

    in the dell website, you can purchase the m1330 w/vista ultimate pre-installed. is that the 64bit or the 32bit version???

    how about bloatware? is it better to get it with the vista home premium and install a fresh copy of the 64bit ultimate? or is it OK to get the system with the ultimate pre-installed?

    thank you!..
     
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    I dont believe you can get Ultimate 64Bit pre-installed from Dell. I bought 32Bit Ultimate and then did an upgrade.

    Bloatware...see my article on clean install below.

    A closing thought. I have known a few to upgrade to an oem version after purchase from Dell and have difficulty installing it with MediaDirect. Just a heads up as I believe they found a way to work around this; I just don't recall what it is exactly but its on the site somewhere.
     
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    I'm getting a screen telling me that windows activation failed and I either have to buy a new license or I have to call microsoft to activate the Vista.

    Anyone else have this? I used the key right off the bottom of the laptop, and I tried it a few times now to make sure I didn't mis-type it.
     
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    Call and activate by the key they generated...no prob.
     
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    Ide like to try this but am a bit hesitant as my system runs stable with the present driver..

    Trebuin...time for your thoughts here... Should I uninstall and then install this??? There is no info on it specifically just the exec file.
     
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    You don't need to uninstall anything, just double-click to install the drivers, it'll install them - then restart. Why do you need someone elses "approval" to run something on your system? If you don't want to trust me, that's fine...whatever, look at my rep and my posts and I think they speak for themselves...

    But anyway, I have better responsiveness with these drivers...but you still cannot enable write caching <_<
     
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    Answer to your first question is because Trebuin has prob already checked this out.

    The concern with not uninstalling your original driver to install this one never has immediate effect but, in more cases than none, has caused something down the road more than once in the past.

    And you answered what i was wondering about...if it enables write caching.

    As for peoples rep...it can be deceiving at the best of times so Ide even have sought out the experience I know in Treb over a moderator here.

    Its nothing personal. Both myself and trebuin have tackled alot of the 64Bit issues that come up...oh by the way...are you running 64Bit?
     
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