WTF, no gigabit in the XPS M1530

I was surprised when it wasn't in the 1520, but I *just* found it it's not in the M1530 either. What is Dell thinking? This is really lame.

 

what is gigabit??

 

gigabit network connection. The wired network card in the M1530 only supports 10/100. I'd like to say every other notebook currently on the market supports 10/100/1000, but I don't know if that's true. I know every non-Dell one I've bought in the last 2 years has. It wouldn't have stopped me from buying one, but it's so common I didn't even check to see if it was supported. It's just ignorant. In this day in time, I can't believe it would cost more than $5 more, if anything at all. What did Dell do, buy big stock of close out network modules?

 

$5 x {thousands of computers} = {thousands of dollars}

 

Really, I find that question offensive. Like you think maybe I'm raising a fuss about something I don't really want or you think I want something but I don't really no what it is and don't need it. I guess I'll answer you, Acorn, for your own education in case you ever find yourself in a situation where gigabit would benefit you. My home network is gigabit. I have a desktop computer/server and a gigabit router. My whole office is gigabit, every computer and server and the routers and switches in between are gigabit. I transfer huge files sometimes. I can download a 6 gigabyte image across my network in a few minutes. I can stream uncompressed 1080p video in my home. Buuuut, my brand new top of the line Dell can't take advantage of any of it. In fact, the wireless connection on this is actually faster than the wired at this point. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the wireless N is so fast, but sometimes I need to copy big stuff fast.

 

http://computers.pricegrabber.com/network-adapters/m/19848125/

There you go.

 

or, Dell could charge $5 more for the notebook. $0 x {infinity of computer} = {zero of dollars}

or, Dell could even charge $6 more for the notebook. I'll let you do the math on that.

 

Lets not get so sensitive here. It IS kinda weird that it does not have gigabit ethernet. But oh well. Good thing my 1420 DOES.

 

Yeah, I know about these. Have you ever used a pccard network card before? I have, many times. Besides that fact that it's $50, the connectors on these things are very fragile and will break in some manner at some point.

 

he he, thanks for trying to cheer me up. see what I mean, even the scrawny, crappy 1420 has gigabit.

 

Acorn, you should have at least known that you didn't really know what gigabit was for. But instead, since you don't need it, you made an assumption that I didn't need it, and one that implied that I didn't really know what I needed. That's what you got the lecture for. I could say to you, "you don't need wireless, because you don't really know how to use a computer in the first place." But that wouldn't be very nice, would it?

 

You can blame a company for claiming to have something and not providing it. You can blame a company for providing something that is shoddy and breaks easily. You can even blame a company for ridiculously overcharging for parts (think RAM).

But if you blame a company for not providing what they didn't offer, it's just a rant. Maybe you should get a different computer, I hear the 1420 has gigabit.

 

yeah, it is just a rant. Was curious if anyone else even cared about this part. I remember it being a complaint a couple years ago on notebookforums.com when the XPS version of the 17 inch Dell had it, but the standard Inspiron didn't. But I still blame the Dell for making a really poor decision in the hardware selection. I was really surprised that a search on the subject in this forum didn't reveal any previous complaints. For me this is like if they only offered 802.llb wireless. That would be pretty lame, right?

 

It's lame they didn't include it... but you can buy an expresscard with gigabit ethernet if you really want it.

 

I agree with you sonicwind, I was also dispointed when I found out it didn't have it. Mind you, I still bought anyways and I really wouldn't be able to use since I don't have a gigabit switch in my house. At least not yet !

 

XPS M1530 models sold elsewhere in the world (Japan for certain) include gigabit. Maybe reason to hope that this feature eventually becomes standard here. It is a very surprising omission.

 

looks like 10/100 on the Japan site to me. It very clearly states: ポート:laugh:

 

My 1420 bought in Australia doesn't have gigabit and there was no option to upgrade it.

 

Just get a new computer- Wait that was your last comment to me!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

Wow I'm surprised it doesnt come with gigabit ethernet as well. I though all Dell notebooks within the past 2 years did. I know for a fact the Dell D820, Precision M65 and Precision M4300 do, I've had all those computers.

 

You can take offense to people saying 'why would you want gigabit connectivity'; I'm gonna take offense to you're comments here.

Theres no need of that.

I guess that 'scrawny crappy' 1420 has an advantage over your gigabit-less piece of chit m1530 eh.. You're an ass for saying that..

No one even justify his comments, that just purely an act of hate/ignorance/anger/jealousy.

Oh, no one made you buy the notebook, so you got no one to blame, besides yourself.


Comments like that make me sick..

 

I think WTF is a bit strong, but it would have been nice to have gig-E.

 

oh wow, i didn't even realize I didn't have gigabit. I was told by the CSR that it did. I was stupid not to check the specs myself. it would have been neat to have to transfer large files across my network, but guess i'll have to do with 100MBPS

 

Gigabit would have been nice, buts its not certainly a deal breaker.

 

I was just joking around with the 1420 comment. But you're right. I am an ass. Oh yeah, and by the way, the scrawny crappy 1420 does not actually have gigabit, either.

 

The last Dell notebook that had Gigabit Ethernet were the M90, M170, and the 1710's.

 

This thread is getting way off course.

 

Not to mention that I have better uses for that slot besides providing functionality that should be built-in. Selling us insanely overpriced RAm and skimping a couple dollars for GigE connectivity? *sigh*

 

Not including a gig ethernet connection in a design is very unlike Dell. All precision systems we have purchased in the last few years have gig ethernet support.

I can't see why they limited their new XPS lines.

 

You guys are all spoiled wanting gigabit ethernet. Why, when I was growing up we were lucky to have 1 bit ethernet. We had to physically carry bytes from one computer to another, up hill both ways. And don't even ask me about error correction. Our laptops weighed 66 gazillion lbs, and only had 1x1 pixel resolution.

 

Now I'm just confused. Wanting to purchase a new XPS in months to come, some had hinted that their XPS M1530 had Gig-E while some don't have. I'm just curious if Dell had decided to split up the regions and supply parts that are different in a small way to each region. Not like Gig-E is a deal breaker for me or what, I'm just wondering te hints of Gig-E in the current XPS line is true.

P/S: My 3-yr old Acer TravelMate does have Gig-E. I stayed on wireless-G/100-Mbit most of the time but did try to link up with Gig-E equipments a few times to copy movies and excessively large image files. It's FAST. LOL

 

I was also very surprised that the XPS line doesn't have gigabit. ALL laptops should have gigabit nowadays, no matter their cost or target market as the price for both components is very similar.

I have a 4 and a half year old Dell 600m (still running strong!) and it has gigabit ethernet. I only have 100mbit at home, which is why I still ordered the 1330 last friday online.

However, it does seem ridiculous that the XPS's don't have gigabit. My university network supports gigabit connections, but usually I use there wireless anyway.

Oh well, the 1330 still seems like a sweet machine!

 

im sorry I did not see Dell's website say that the 1420 has a Gigabit Ethernet, is there an updated driver or something? Can you point me to where it says it has gigabit ethernet?

Thanks

 

1420 doesn't have gigabit, what planet are you on?

If the 1520 and 1720 doesn't have gigabit why would they give the lowest, smallest inspiron gigabit?

The xps m1730 has it as do many of the precision/latitude range.

I run a gigabit network too and while initially put off my 1720 because of it, the fact that the 10/100 card doesn't need any fancy drivers to disable it on the battery is a bonus as some of the time it didn't turn back on properly.
I just give myself more time to move files onto my laptop now and leave the intensive stuff to my desktop which is much quicker anyway.

OP, no need to insult other peoples machines. There is also no need for a 'WTF', You should have checked and checked again to make sure if it was so important to you.
And don't be so impatient with others, many people don't see nor have the need for a gigabit network.

 

i know it doesn't

I was asking surfasb for a reference

 

I posted (off-topic) in this thread:

 

I had the same thoughts about the wireless-N! It was so silly it made me laugh. I previously had NO interest in getting a wireless-N access-point, but now it's made me look into them because draft-N supports (off the top of my head) somewhere around 300mbps right? Nowhere near gigabit (and moer susceptable to interference too) but at least it's faster than 100mbps.

I STILL am having a hard time with this no-gigabit thing, like maybe I forgot to select an option on the build, or it's an error during production -- it just seems so out of place! I'll post back here with anything else I can find.

 

I can assure you 300mbps wireless N speed is theoretical only - you will not achieve that under any real world conditions. However you could still achieve somewhat faster than wired 100mbps speed with wireless; I have been told of about 140mbps with high quality matching wireless N components.

Dell should still be ashamed with the lack of gigabit on today's XPS series notebooks.

 

I've had mixed success with my wireless N. Sometimes it seems very fast, but other times it is not as fast as my tricycle speed M1530 100mb/s wire line. But it always says connected at 150mb/s.

 

What model router are you using?

 

It's a DLink DIR-655 Xtreme N Gigabit Router
http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=1&pid=530

My XPS M1530 wireless nic is a Dell Wireless 1505 Draft n 802.11n WLAN Mini Card
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...etail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=430-2511

 

Very disappointed and a bit surprised. I got my M1530 and no gigabit Ethernet... It's 2008!! Top end XPS notebooks should have gigabit!

 

Top end xps is the 1730........


and it has gigabit

 

While I am also wondering about the reasons for not including a gigabit port on the m1530 I am also not surprised about it, since I did read the laptop specifications and knew about it before ordering.

Also, here in Mexico gigabit connections are as rare as wireless N ones, so I really don´t mind about it. Perhaps in one or two years that those kind of connections start to become popular here I will start to care, but by then I should be getting a new laptop, and I will make sure that it does have a gigabit port .

If you want to feel a little better, or perhaps just be grateful about all the wonderful options you are given at the US DELL store at really low prices... try going to the mexican one: www.dell.com.mx, for starters we don´t get as many options to configure our systems as you do... and on top of that things are extremely expensive compared to yours... even considering the peso-dollar ratio, so well... just a little thought .

 

Most home users won't even notice the difference. A 10/100 card is more than enough for browsing the internet at home. At home, my switches and router are 100 so I didn't notice a difference.

Here at my college, there are a few places that you can get a gigabit connection to the network ... which is nice when you have to install something over the network.

 

Yeah most people don't use gigabit networks. But it should be cheap enough to at least include it for future proofing.

 

I too am very surprised it wasn't there. I assumed the XPS line was about performance and feature-richness, so I'm not sure why they'd skimp on something so basic. It's been several years since I last bought a PC or laptop that didn't have gigabit. My latitudes from 4-5 years ago had gigabit and they weren't exactly the top models out there. It's not like this is even a big integration issue, gigabit is a chipset feature!!!

I have to imagine it's a deliberate cripple to help keep XPS systems out of business environments with performance laptop requirements.

 

I don't know about that. I sure notice a difference when browsing my digital photos and installing large multi-megabyte files over the network (like the Office 2007 service pack!).

 

Most home users = most intensive network process they do is download msn live messenger and use facebook.

 

Most home users = not exactly the target market for a XPS laptop.