Who's going to be first to find a 1920x1200 screen that'll fit in the L502x?

I sit in the 1200p rather then 1080p camp so which star on here is going to be first to find a 1200p screen that'll fit the L502x chassis so I can justify ordering one.....

 

You cant.

1080p is 34.42cm × 19.36cm
1200p is 33.17cm × 20.73cm

good luck

 

Just wondering, are you shure those dimensions are for every single 1080p and 1200p screen made?

 

excuse me, but wasnt the first couple of 1080p screens 40 inch only? Right now we have 19 inch monitors with full 1080p. You will probably be waiting a while before a 1200p screens comes out for a 15 inch model, but it will come.

AFAIK, pixels arent bound by dimensions

correct me if Im wrong

 

They are not, but unless you don't want a uniform pixel, its not going to fit in the frame. The frame is designed to fit a 16:9 screen, with each pixel having the same height and width. So unless a screen manufacture makes a 1920x1200 screen in a 16:9 ratio, which would mean the height of the pixel is smaller than the width, you won't find a screen to fit the frame.

Old HDTV's use to be 1024x720 in 16:9 ratio, but the pixels were wide and short, not a perfect square shape.

Edit, some math:

(1920/1020)/(16/9) = 17280/17280 = 1 <- this shows each pixel is a square
(1920/1200)/(16/9) = 17280/19200 = .9 <- this shows the height of the 1200p screen of with was made with a 16:9 ratio.

1200p screens are 16:10, here is the math:
(1920/1200)/(16/10) = 19200/19200 = 1

 

There have been 1200p 15" screens since at least 2008, my current M1530 has 1200p on a 15.4" screen........

So going back to the original point who's going to be first to find one? I was told you couldn't do 3840x2400 in a 22" screen once, then I saw one........

 

the 1200p 15" screen will not fit in the 16:9 frame that comes with the laptop. 1200p screens are 16:10 in ratio.

 

pinsb, they aren't saying its not possible.
They are just saying that the aspect ratio just doesn't allow it, it's different, and if done wouldn't be proper.
And as far as my knowledge goes, such a screen hasn't been manufactured yet, maybe in the future they might manufacture it with a similar res to fit the 16:9 ratio, but as of now, hasn't been made.

 

They have had 1920x1200 screens in laptops for years the issue isn't finding a panel. The issue is that the XPS 15 laptops are made with a screen aspect ratio of 16:9 while 1920x1200 is 16:10 it's a rectangle peg in an even more rectangle hole.

 

Most screens before 2009 were in 16:10 ratio as others have said in this thread, even though they supported a higher resolution is was only due to the the aspect ratio. Similarly, your M1530 wont be able to fit in a 1920x1080 screen. Even if you find a replacement screen of whatever resolution whose to say that you will be getting that a BG+R Screen, most of the replacement screen companies I've seen have average or mediocre screen quality, so even with a higher resolution you'd be at a loss with an average screen that doesnt have that vivid and POP that a BG+R screen would provide.

The only type of replacement I would look for is if I find a MATTE screen with atleast on-par screen quality or semi matte like the 1080p on the 13" screen on the Vaio Z.
Just my 2 cents

 

This brings on a rant of mine. I'll keep it brief in case anyone actually wishes to read it. (ya right)

I was upset when I started shopping for a laptop to find that 1920x1200 screens have become extinct. Screens have stepped backwards. My current laptop has 1920x1200, but my XPS 15 won't. Why? Because the computer makers think we want HDTV resolution on our computers. They think black bars on top and bottom of our movies might bother us. AND they want to sell us cheaper to produce screens.

I understand that 1920x1200 screens are a waste when watching a movie because the extra pixels are just black bars...but I'm buying a COMPUTER...not a darned TV!!! I will be running office applications, surfing the internet, editing photos, etc. I would like my 120 lines of horizontal back please.

-Dale

 

All over the above post. Agree 100%.

 

If I remember correctly when replacing the 720p with the 1080p on my L501x, there was some wiggle room in there taken up by the screen mounting brackets. It could be possible, if you make new mounting brackets, to make it work. It honestly wouldn't be that hard either. They are two very thin brackets. Can't remember what they are made of, but I know you could get some compatible metal at lowe's or home depot because I've had to do this type of thing before. You would also have to modify the front screen bezel to the new dimensions, which would be pretty hard to do if you want it to look good. I'm sticking with my new 1080p, so that's as far as I'm going to go on this.

 

Well it isn't that big a step backwards. The 1080p screen on a 15.6" 16:9 (FHD, 19900 pixels/sq inch) is much better than a 1680x1050 screen on a 15.4" 16:10 (WSXGA+,16500 pixels/sq inch) .

What would be comparable to a 1920x1200 15.4" 16:10 screen (WUXGA, 21600 pixels/sq inch) in a 15.6" 16:9 laptop would be an 1152p screen (QWXGA, 22,700 pixels/sq inch). Unfortunately, no LCDs that small have this resolution.

Note that "retina display" territory would be >90,000 pixels/inch.

(See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_display_standard)

(Math: Pixel Density = (XRes^2 + YRes^2) / Diag^2)

 

Guys

There's a reason to have a 1200p screen.....

The power of the SB processor makes having VM's on your laptop easier to do.

If you can run your VM at 1080p while still keeping the toolbars from the host for informational purposes it makes a great platform.

So with 1200p I can still run VM's in 1080p and have a 60 pixel toolbar top and bottom.

 

We understand what you want. 1200p are very desirable, but unfortunately, 1200p will not fit the XPS 15. You will need to make a custom bracket and frame. LCD screen manufactures only create screens with certain aspect ratios. All 1080p screens are 16:9. All 1200p screens are 16:10. There are no manufactures out there currently making 1200p screens in 16:9 as then the pixels would not be uniform.

You can by an after market screen and make it work, but you will be spending a lot of time and money.

here is what you'll need:

* a 1200p LCD screen, they usually only come in 15.6", not 15.4"
* new custom front bezel
* new custom frame (the back)
* new custom bracket to mount the LCD on the custom frame
* custom video ribbon cable as the one that comes with the laptop will not be the correct length.

 

I think most of us understand the current XPS 15 is 16:9 and thus cramming a 16:10 screen in the machine is not an option. While I cannot speak for others, what I wanted was for a machine designed from the get go with a 16:10 display so I could have my 1920x1200.

There are many reasons I'm buying a new computer. Among them is the desire to take my laptop with me on photo vacations where the the machine will fit in my nifty camera bag/notebook back pack thingy my wife bought me for Christmas. My 17" Inspiron 9400 is just a tad too big to fit in the darn thing and way too slow to be enjoyable to use for photo editing. However, the 1920x1200 display is quite nice and will be missed.
-D

 

Exactly -- the pixels would have to be rectangles -- shorter than they are wide.

 

i am afraid that the only thing we "1200p people" can do is buy a mac..
Apple seem to be the only manufacturer that does what people want..

But i don't really want to buy a mac, darn.. this is such a thought decision..

 

Dell's 17" Precision is still 16:10, but that's it for Dell. Business lines may be more likely to still have them if you really need it. Consumer lines, unfortunately, are movie-focused.

 

Apple still offers the 1920x1200 lcd panel in their 17" Macbook Pro, but you'll pay dearly for it. The highest resolution offered in their 15" Macbook Pro is 1680x1050, which is still a 16:10 format, if it's the format you're after. I suppose you could buy a 15" macbook pro then replace the 1680x1050 or 1440x900 panel with a 1920x1200 panel. Probably end up costing as much as the 17" MBP though.

I've always figured Apple did what Steve Jobs wanted and Steve told us that's what we needed.

 

New Precision M6600 is going from 17" to 17.3", and 16:10 to 16:9. Horrible. But rumors are IPS are coming back to Dell.

 

There have been whole threads about that on various forums. The old CCFL-backlit non-unibody MBP was possible to mod w/ 1920x1200, but so far I haven't seen anything surface for the new MBP.
It would require a LED-backlit 1920x1200 display, of which the only type I know of that ever existed is the RGBLED panel in my M4400 (model number: LTN154CT04). From what I can tell it's too thick to even fit inside the MBP's display housing.
There's also the issue of the connector. I'm not sure if they will be compatible even if you can cram it in there.

I was actually considering trying to hack this RGBLED display into my Dell Latitude E6510 and getting a custom-machined bezel, but I decided to send back the E6510 and get a refurb M4400. (I don't really need an i7 anyway. This T9600 has been all I need so far, and I'm upgrading it to a QX9300 in the future as soon as prices drop below $300)
I thought it might fit since there's so much plastic on the bezel above and below the screen. This isn't the case with the XPS 15 though.

 

you might be able to cut enough out of the xps15's bezel to fit a 16:10 screen.

 

the 1080p screen is wider than the 1200p screen.



and you forgot a few things:

LED 1200p screens do not exists
CCFL screens are fatter than led screens
30 pin LVDS vs 40 pin on xps 15
the backlit inverter wont fit

 

ASPECT RATIO

HOW DOES IT WORK?!

 

That picture is kinda misleading, what screens did the measurements come from? Pixel wise they should both be the exact same width at 1920 pixels, with the 1200 screen being taller and less 'rectangular' offering more vertical resolution.

 

Not if they're both the exact same diagonal size.

2 screens, both 15", one 16x9 and the other 16x10.

The 16x10 will be both taller AND narrower than the 16x9.

 

Yes they do, I have one
Assuming RGBLED counts as LED just as B+RGLED and WLED do.

 

Not to offend anyone or anything like that
But, again this is my own opinion, isn't this thread getting kinda useless.
We have all stated that it's not gonna happen for as long as 16:9 is around and everything else. So what else is there left to discuss?

 

15.6 vs. 15.4" 1200p
Unless you want to fit 17" 1200p screen in your xps, 15.4" is your only choice.

17" yes, but in the 15.4" form factor, only ccfl exists

...I should point out that the picture compares 15.6 (16:9) to 15.4 (16:10)

 

The Precision M4400 is a 15.4" laptop, and had a RGBLED WUXGA option. It's the only one like it though, all other WUXGA LED screens are 17" (M6400, M6500, W700, W701, 8730w, 8740w, MBP)

The WUXGA RGBLED screen is the reason I bought it

Makes sense if you thought I was talking about 17" though

 

Any chance you could take it apart and find out the exact manufacturer and model number?

This is why this thread should continue.........progress!!

 

I already know the model number

The model number is LTN154CT04 (LTN154CT04-D01?)
and it's a Samsung panel.

EDIT: yes of course this won't fit into the XPS 15.

 

I don't get it. a 15.4" screen *will not* fit in the L502X. Just take a look at the display casing:
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/xpsL502X/en/SM/xps_l5b4.jpg

There is no room in the bezel whatsoever. A 15.4" screen is almost a full inch taller than a 15.6" screen. You'd have to saw out the top of the bezel and lid, and probably sacrifice the webcam, and find a display cable that actually is long enough with compatible pins and routes correctly, and it'll be unprotected when closed, sticking out and vulnerable.

Though point of note: Why does the service manual mention a digitizer cable? Isn't that for touch screens? There was a rumor that there would eventually be a touch screen option on the L502x. I hope this is a part that we would be able to install after the fact. Assuming they make a 1080p version.

 

It was shipped to some reviewers whit an 900p touch screen, the same screen as in the studio 17.

 

Okay. Maybe I could buy the 900p touch screen when its available and hack together a 1080p version, assuming the digitizer isn't glued to the LCD.

 

Already done, i forgot his name.