Why do people say Dell makes good gaming laptops?

I always hear people saying that.

Yet when i checked, their XPS laptops M1330 and M1530 something like that sucks, they had crappy video cards and yet last i checked you need a good video card.

Not to mention it seems like their XPS laptops are outdated and overpriced.

So what makes Dell so special in gaming laptops?

 

Uh... Look at 1730?

Also, 1530 comes with Nvidia 8600/9600M which is actually... quite fine for gaming just not on full graphics and stuff

 

dell doesnt make good gaming laptops... their subdivision Alienware makes good gaming laptops

their XPS line is a premium line for good stuff-> portability, some graphics/CPU power...

 

i dont think the M1530 comes with a 9600M,just a 8600M GT

and BTW laptops are not meant for heavy gaming,they're meant to be portable,get a desktop if you want to game
dont think the M1730 deserves to be called a laptop,its a beast!!!!!!!!!

 

Lawl.

8600M GT GDDR3 is enough to play the latest games at medium/high settings. Not to mention, XPS M1530 example is the lightest 15.4" laptop and most likely also the most stylish.

XPS M1730 is quite powerful, SLI 8800GTX should be enough if you want to play your games at 1920x1200 resolution.

XPS M1330 isn't a gaming machine, but it's possible to play some 2007 and older games just fine (medium/high) on a 13.3" notebook.

And overpriced? Not really. You pay for quality.

 

Not to sound like a fanboy or anything, but the Macbook Pro is actually the lightest 15.4" laptop. Just saying .

 

the M1530 is definitely not meant for heavy gaming set on max settings. However, I play COD4 on my M1530 and have no problems at all on fairly high settings. Games like crysis are harder to play on it and I have to set everything pretty low for it to run smoothly. They are more for casual gaming. The M1730 is way more of a gaming laptop than the M1530

 

XPS M1530 is outdated now, but when it came out it was one of the best 15.4” gaming notebooks out there. And if you look at M1730 (again outdated now) has 8800M GTX SLI, hardware Physics accelerator and RAID Hard disks, what more can you ask? You compare old notebooks and say DELL doesn't make good gaming notebooks ??

But unfortunately with the new Studio XPS line things are not looking good. .

 

not good for us or not good for Dell???

 

New studio laptops look so crappy its unbelieveable. IMO dell doesn't even really compete with their main competition anymore...HP (who is actually making original machines while dell just waits 5 months then tries to copy everyone else) Dell suck. Enough said. Not good gaming laptops, not good anything laptops. THey should probably go bankrupt in this new economy and make the laptopping world a better place

 

But XPS is suppose to be their gaming laptops.

Now while the 1730 isnt that bad, its OUTDATED and ITS INSANELY overpriced for a system that old.

 

XPS was considered there gaming laptop before they aquired alienware. in order to not compete with themselves they transformed XPS into a more middle of the line laptop meant for multi purpose on the go type of stuff. The XPS line is no longer advertised for gaming.

 

What's wrong with it? I kind of like the Studio XPS 13, personally. But from the looks of it the darn thing still only has two USB ports. Blah.

 

Dell XPS is mid-high range gaming system, while Alienware is high-end, in my opinion.

 

What are these original machines that you speak of? When the m1330 first came out the design and features seemed pretty unique to me.

 

The XPS1730 is top of the line, and it is indeed a good gaming laptop.
Dell does not make ONLY GAMING laptops, 1 is plenty...

 

What are people complaining about? The XPS 16 has a HD 3670 which is better than the 9600M GT, it has a nice RGB WUXGA LED screen, support for 8GB, Bluetooth 2.1, Expresscard/54, HDMI AND DisplayPort, eSATA, backlit keyboard, Blu-Ray... find me a HP laptop that can match that. I am disappointed in the lateness of its availability, but specs wise, it's pretty good. Only the HD 4670 would make it perfect, but you can't have it all. I wonder if there is switchable graphics...

 

the 3670 is not better than a 9600M GT. It is fairly similar to a DDR2 9600M GT, but worse than a GDDR3 9600M GT.

And those scores are wrong, as they were done at WXGA. Most 9600M GT scores are from 1280 by 1024 tests.

 

Comparing the same type of memory:

8600M GT (9500M GS) < 9600M GS < HD 3650 < 9600 M GT < HD 3670 < 9650M GT.

The difference between HD 3670 and the 9600M GT isn't that great

 

Studio XPS 16 is not going to be a top gaming notebook in it's class like M1530 did. ATI 3670 is not as fast as the NV 9600M GT it seems.

As a normal notebook it will be good, just not a very good “gaming notebook”.

 

Xps are a joke. I would gladly pay a premium for a far greater sony 13" machine than a crappy dell that overheats and melts when even a pretty poor video card is equipped. The 16" is just a way for dell to copy...3 months late may i add...the Sony FW and the HP HDX. Original HP machines include things like having the Infinite display, which even apple who supposidely is the great innovator ended up basically stealing, and the first multitouch laptop. And calling the extremely overpriced 1730...which dell refuses to even update with new technology...a "top of the line" gaming laptop means that you just have no idea what you are talking about and probably shouldn't talk in the first place. Who the hell is going to buy that piece of trash when they can get a far better, and far less expensive clevo? Your dumb dell fanboy ? Have fun with that...Though i might buy one if i run out of toliet paper

 

So what went wrong with your Dell?

 

The new Vaios aren't that great either. I have some friends in Japan who wouldn't buy them. The m1330 was a good choice when it first came out. It wasn't that expensive and had decent specs; LED screen was an option. Now of course there are better alternatives. If I had the choice of getting a new notebook, I wouldn't choose XPS. Leaning towards the new macbook.

 

jesus, why is everyone so sensitive

 

just to add the current xps line is outdated and will be replaced soon. but why is everyone comparing laptops there will always be something better than what previously came out its called...technological advancement.
and as for xps being really expensive...the xps is a premium laptop with superb build quality and to understand it you just have to own one

my two cents

 

Superb build quality :laugh:

 

DELL customer care in India SUCKS BIG TIME...!! dont buy dell..

 

i just read the whole thread, most people in here are delusional. dell does NOT have great build quality, even ridiculous quality control problems at times, but it is decent generally. Yes, the whole XPS line is overpriced, and they need a rehaul soon. Most people who buy the XPS line are not informed laptop enthusiasts, and therefore stick with whats mostly marketed. It is good for all around use, but very overpriced compared to other brands like Gateway, Sager, Asus... etc.

and people who are actually bringing up Alienware for gaming shows their lack of knowledge. other brands are offering MUCH faster performance for 1/2 the price with BETTER hardware.

 

Lawl, it's funny to read how people who have probrably have never even touched a XPS system are tryng to make it look bad.

Comparing XPS with something like Gateway, Sager, Asus is like comparing Lamborghini with a Volvo or something. You pay for quality.
Sure, you can get a better system with a cheaper price, but you'll get a cheap-brand laptop with a high possibility of just dying.

 

This. IMO if you haven't owned it don't bash it. I can sit here all day and bash brands that I've "heard" suck but that would make me seem immature.

 

every brand has similar problems, most have moved on phone service to India.
i find dell build quality is generally good when compared to hp, gateway and Toshiba, but Sony and apple seem more sturdy, but those are more expensive in most cases. it all depends on what you want. if you always have the best laptop you will be upgrading 2 or 3 times a year. dell to me is a decent compromise. people who hate dell, well there are always reasons to hate a company, any company. the xps line is just for normal people now, it isn't even a gameing computer anymore.

 

Performance @t the cost of weight
if you look at the weight to performance ratio of the XPS series its much better than those offered by sager,gateway,etc...
whats the point of a gaming laptop if you cant take to a LAN session in your uni,locality,etc
Also everybody does not live in the US and have all the options such as Sager,etc available,they might just have brands which are global such as HP,Dell or Lenovo.For eg-I had only the previous three options available

Edit:I don't think Dell will re haul its XPS line,if they do so they would have to shut down their Alienware brand

 

Dell WAS really a great choice for a gaming laptop. They're still not terrible, but people aren't wrong for saying that. They used to be unbeatable, just for whatever reason they've kind of shifted their whole line, where now most of their stuff is low or mid range.

 

Im not really sure what strain of weed you are smoking, but i wanna get some of it. Calling Dell a Lamborghini in the Laptop world is just the stupidest thing in the world. I have owned an XPS and I can say they have horrible build quality. Just read these forums and see all the complaints against the m1330...For a 13.3" it is just a terrible laptop, but tries to price itself with the far better sony alternatives. People like you, Akuma, need to get their heads out of their asses and stop acting like Dell fanboys. Just because you own one doesn't mean they are good, in fact it just goes to show how little you know about notebook quality in the first place.

 

You say that compared with what?
And if you would know something about computer brands then you would know what brands qualify as laptop "Lamborghinis" and what not.

So you lurk around in XPS forums and see people complaining? Wow, is that so? Have you looked around in other brand forums? People come to forums to ask help, to complain, to get information. People don't come to forums to tell everyone how great their laptop is and how well it's built. Sure, there may be better laptops out there, but this limits the L-brands to three.

So my head is in my a$$ and I'm a Dell fanboy for stating the obivious and asking why people like you whine and lie about XPS brand. Kid, I'm not sure how old you are by name-calling me like that, but you certainly are flaming me without a reason and trolling.

Actually, I've owned around ~15 laptops in my life thus far, I've helped other people and fixed around hundreds of laptops and netbooks, not to mention I'm keeping my eye on more than one laptop-related forum. So I do know quite a bit about quality.

And so far my current work laptop, the XPS is indeed the best out of them. No hardware problems, no heating problems, no software problems and no cosmetic problems. I don't know about support for this model because I've never needed it, but I'm sure I would be quite pleased as I've used other Dell laptops in the past.

I don't know your history with laptops but I can say this - stop assuming things and stop flaming others.

 

You get what you pay for. Seriously all the issues in this thread can easily be resolved by buying a macbook with a 9600m. What... nobody wants to pay $2000 for a laptop of all sudden??

Dell is great price/performance and they exploit that segment perfectly, if you're not happy with them - try another company.

 

no, if you actually read the thread, you would notice that issues in this thread can be easily resolved by choosing any of the other brands on this forum. its lke a godsend compared to the ridiculous price that Dell charges, better build quality, much cheaper, MUCH faster GPU, much faster everything in fact.

 

There are all kinds of issues with Apple's notebooks. Notebooks in general aren't particularly reliable, and if I'm remembering right, Apple and Dell are identical in Consumer Reports' reliability surveys, or certainly within a percentage point or two.

 

Gaming?

My M1330 couldn't even run Office and open a web browser without spontaneously combusting, and that's with integrated graphics.

Owning one of these is like riding in the back seat of a Pinto.

 

My latest Dell tech rep was hinting to me that the best alternative was to buy the CompleteCare accidental damage package for $70 and then drive over it with my truck.

 

@ OP

The Dell lineup is more about all around features not really focused just on gaming. If you want something stylish, decent build quality, mid-high gaming ability than Dell is worth looking at. But there are many brands & models (all slightly different) in this category so you really need to look around to find the right one for you. If all you want to do is hardcore gaming, buy a desktop.

Wow, and I thought I got overheated sometimes in this forum, lol. 0.o

Nicely done. Classy and substantial. *thumbs up*

 

i love how Dell laptop owners ignore mentioning gaming laptops from other brands with better build quality, better hardware, a video card that is almost 2x as fast, for much cheaper. they always say,

IF YOU WANNA GAME, BUY A DESKTOP!!!

THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE IS THE OVERPRICED MACBOOK PRO!!! SEE, THE DELL'S ARE SO MUCH CHEAPER AND A BARGAIN!

please open your eyes and stop spreading lies just because you personally ignore your deep regret in spending so much money on an underperforming laptop.... at least help other people realize YOUR mistakes and show them a better path

the truth here people is, there are $1500 gaming laptops that can burn through all the latest games including Crysis and the like.... you do NOT have to spend $3000 on an overpriced and lower build quality Alienware.... nevermind the XPS's, which are a joke at this point in time. hopefully Dell gets their head out of their own butts and realize their competition is far ahead in performance and bargain

 

for example, this gateway gaming laptop is $1000 for a

17" 1900x1200 screen
9800 GTS 1gig video card
with 4 gigs of DDR2, 320 gig
7200 rpm hard drive, etc....

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...7805u&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1218043606827

i dare anyone on this Dell subforum to build a dell laptop with this video card and specs and see what the price comes out to.

oh wait, dell doesn't even have a video card of this caliber, but instead they must sell a laptop with an 8600GT which can barely run minesweeper for almost 2x the price, DELL WAKE UP!!!

 

Seriously could we stop with all this bashing crap.

Tbh I'm surprised this thread wasn't closed as it basically facillitates trolling and bashing and not much else.

For the record
The 8600m GT can actually run minesweeper - 'Yeah, I know AMAZING!!'

it can also run Crysis, GTA 4 - I've yet to find a game it can't run.

It also gets 5 hours on battery whilst weighing feck all, and considering how cheap you can buy one these days - I don't see what people are whinging about.

 

Your empty rhetoric amuses me immensely. You may want to check out the "Would you do it again" thread and see all the negative responses to dell ownership. Then maybe head over to the Sony laptop forum, a company that actually knows how to make computer, and read all the positive responses, albeit maybe 2.

 

hey yomama--
why are you trying to shut down legitimate criticism? you didn't seem too happy with your dell when you posted this on another thread which I just happened to see (honest I wasn't looking for it but the irony was just too much to pass up)

"Have regrets too..

- Faulty gpu.
- Dodgy crackling noise from headphones.
- Bleeding, patchy screen.
- Noisy Fan
- Very Noisy, clicking hdd.
- Ridiculously Noisy dvd drive (unuseable in mildly quiet environment)
- Ethernet card deliberately ruined (by Dell)
- Questionable quality - e.g. speakers, paint job (wearing away on bottom) etc.
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XPS m1530 --- T8300 2.4ghz --- 4GB DDR2 667mhz --- 8600m GT 256mb GDDR3 OC 783/1566/950 mhz - 5871 3dmarks ---
400gb 5400rpm sata --- 1920*1200 wuxga -"

 

he does have a point that laptop is $1,000 and for Gaming that would no doubt destroy the new Studio XPS 16.

and a similar Studio XPS 16 will easily be $600 more.

 

hahhahaha, that guy is too funny. how badly can someone be a dell fanboy when theres a million things wrong with it and STILL defend it! rofl

 

Right, where to start?
@alphatwolf - firstly that was about 2 months ago, Its not so much that my opinion has changed, its more I've realised that I was fretting over things that don't matter.

- Faulty gpu. Since bought full warranty - No longer matters
- Dodgy crackling noise from headphones. - Was actually faulty headphones
- Bleeding, patchy screen. - Still there but don't notice it
- Noisy Fan - Bios change stopped that
- Very Noisy, clicking hdd. - Bios change fixed that
- Ridiculously Noisy dvd drive (unuseable in mildly quiet environment) Unfortunately can't fix that
- Ethernet card deliberately ruined (by Dell) - Don't use it at all, Wireless is the sole broadband link.
- Questionable quality - e.g. speakers, paint job (wearing away on bottom) etc - Considering the constant beating its gotten, day in day out since I bought it. The fact that its still in one piece amazes me.

Note also that considering the thread topic of gaming performance - I NEVER SAID IT HAD POOR PERFORMANCE ISSUES.

Also I'm not in any way trying to shut down legitimate criticism, Quite the opposite.
I was trying to point out actual legitimate benefits that I had personally seen.

Unlike the other two "Fanboys" (using blue diamonds term) - Blue diamond and Lawlerskates who added nothing by posting criticism for the sake of posting criticism.

 

yomama--
but how much was that warranty. holy cow, for what they were quoting me I could buy half of a new machine.
that's the main issue for me.
But glad you are happy with the machine. I do like mine too when it works.