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    XPS 15 (Haswell) Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by mark_pozzi, Oct 23, 2013.

  1. DrClone

    DrClone Notebook Consultant

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    I can confirm this, I played with the Samsung ATIV Book 9 plus at Best Buy. I adjusted the screen resolution down to 1600x900 which results in pure crisp image (1 pixel = 4 pixels in 1600x900) and tried 1920x1080 which results in pretty crisp images but with soft edges. It's not as bad with low resolution screen that is really blurry. I'm considering buying the Yoga 2 when they fix the "yellow washout" in color and hopefully fix the color correction. It would be tough for me going from a casual gaming laptop to a ultrabook...but I really need the portability more than gaming.

    I also was considering the Dell XPS 15 or the Dell M3800, but...I was shocked HOW high their price was. I'll wait a while till it drops about $300 in price then we'll start talking money.
     
  2. IceManKent

    IceManKent Notebook Consultant

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    I agree with you, there !
    Stellar-looking piece of hardware - but the pricing is quite steep.
    I hope Dell can offer some good holiday discounts on their high end products.
    A discount of 300.00 would entice me to buy one without a doubt. (from Dell.ca - since I am sure the US site has cheaper prices than Canada anyway)
     
  3. Erasmus354

    Erasmus354 Notebook Geek

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    There really isn't anything in this class that is any cheaper though. Remember this is a premium product. There are similar but lesser computers for less such as the HP Envy 15 which is really just a dv6 renamed, none of the Envy build quality. However that example is only going to save you a few hundred dollars and you get a heavier, bulkier, lower specced laptop out of it. Or you could stick with Dell and go for the Inspiron 15 7000 Series. Once again you get a bulkier, heavier, lower specced laptop for less money.

    The only thing directly comparable right now to the size, weight, and performance of the XPS 15 is the Macbook Pro Retina. In that comparison the Dell comes out ahead by several hundred dollars on price. I'm just not buying this being overpriced by $300 considering the prevailing market.
     
  4. IceManKent

    IceManKent Notebook Consultant

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    I would (love) to order this thing right now - as there's a 150.00 off coupon code but it expires on Nov 1st - (even before this thing would ship).
    That's a LOT of faith to place in a not-yet-released product.

    Just out of curiosity - only the SSD version of this comes with the 91 Whr battery (vs the 61 Whr battery in the lower two models).
    How "much" more time does the 91 WHr give you compared to the 61 WHr ?
     
  5. wickeddeus

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    Is this coupon Canadian only?
     
  6. IceManKent

    IceManKent Notebook Consultant

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    Yes - the particular code I found (just by googling for it) was for dell.CA
     
  7. spybenj

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    I had and have the same worries, but that's what the return policy's there for ;)
     
  8. Wurstwasser

    Wurstwasser Newbie

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    So I searched a lot and am still not sure if the XPS 15 has NVIDIA Optimus? Anyone know this for sure? It would make sense since the M3800 has Optimus but i couldn't find anything on that states that the XPS 15 has Optimus?
     
  9. spybenj

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    It 100% has Optimus, it'd be impossible to get 11 hours of battery if it was using the 750m the entire time l
     
  10. HamStar50

    HamStar50 Notebook Geek

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    I think pretty much all laptops in the last 2-3 years with NVidia graphics are "optimus". On board Intel graphics are included on this and pretty much all laptops - optimus to me in just a software thing that gets the discrete gfx card to kick in. On my L521x and xps model before that all did the same thing.
     
  11. IceManKent

    IceManKent Notebook Consultant

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    It may be well worth losing the 150.00 discount now to avoid making a potential colossal mistake, should this laptop have nightmarish issues (like the previous xps line).

    Sigh...first the Samsung Series 7 Chronos / ATIV Book 8 disappoints - and now my dilemma with this new beast.
    I think I'll err on the side of caution and wait to see what happens when people start to own it have their say - first, before parting with two grand.
     
  12. el3ctronics

    el3ctronics Notebook Guru

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    You invoice date is the same as the shipping date. Your card isn't charged (which is the actual invoice ) until the computer ships.

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
     
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  14. IceManKent

    IceManKent Notebook Consultant

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    You are seriously fueling my temptation to pull the trigger and order this!
    :)

    Did you order one yet?
     
  15. spybenj

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    Yep, high end version for $2075 after like 10 calls.
    I'm hoping its good, as if it isn't I'm going to have to get a rMBP, as I really can't wait any longer!
    Pretty excited for the 18th. I wish it was like assassins creed 4, completely forgot about, noticed it was available when walking by an engames and picked it up! Didn't have to spend weeks waiting for it first
     
  16. csyk2

    csyk2 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I read some yoga pro 2 reviews. They pointed out that:
    1. The color of the screen is not accurate. The color yellow looks more like gold.
    2. The screen is a PenTile display, whack means there are only 2 sub pixels in 1 big pixel. So the resolution is not like RGB display with 3200*1800 resolution.

    I guess the point is, if you do not need accurate color, the display looks gorgeous.
     
  17. wickeddeus

    wickeddeus Notebook Geek

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    Dammit just pulled the trigger on the top spec version. $2068 before taxes with 2nd day shipping and 5% cash back via cash card after 10-20 day. Should be at my door Nov. 22th.
     
  18. spybenj

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    We've finally reached the time where ordering late equals later delivery!
    Congrats on the order, let's hope it's good.
     
  19. tekjunke

    tekjunke Notebook Guru

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    Ordered last night. Overnight delivery for 11/22. Top model.

    Sent from my Galaxy S4
     
  20. hazelwood

    hazelwood Notebook Guru

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    Can't believe I just ordered £1500 on laptop thats not even out yet! The most I've ever spent is £500 on a awful HP so hopefully its gonna be good. Also, my shipping date is the 15th November so it looks like the UK has less orders at least.
     
  21. mheuer818

    mheuer818 Notebook Enthusiast

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    This is my first time ordering a laptop that's not already out as well, but I'm sick of this rMBP. Yay early adopters.
     
  22. tekjunke

    tekjunke Notebook Guru

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    My track record of being an early adopter is pretty terrible unfortunately, but I suppose I enjoy the pain because I keep doing it.


    Sent from my Galaxy S4
     
  23. Cedricm

    Cedricm Notebook Consultant

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    Can you check if a software named Waves MaxxAudio Pro Suite is included?

    Please do a youtube review as soon a you get one ;-)
    If you are courageous, remove the back to show what the inside looks like.
    We'll have a better idea whether the Precision M3800 is an XPS 15 with an NVidia Quadro card of if there are more differences.

    I'm seriously considering ordering one despite the high price. I wonder if we'll be able to use photoshop or if we have to wait for Adobe to rework its interface to make it more scalable.
     
  24. Dourn

    Dourn Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi y'all.
    So I'm eagerly awaiting one of you getting their hands on the new XPS 15 just to see how it good it is. I don't want to commit to purchasing one till I've seen a few hands-on reviews - I've experienced enough burns being an early adopter with Dell laptops to be a bit cautious.
    I need to replace my ageing XPS 1640 though, and soon: The screen turns pink every 3rd boot or so, which is a bit alarming (that and the fact that you have to let it warm up for 10 mins or so before it will boot from the HDD).

    After reading Scott Hanselman's review on how having a laptop with touch can make quite a difference to everyday tasks, I rather want the option to have one on my next laptop:
    "Don't knock a touchscreen until you've used one. Every laptop should (and will) have a touch screen in a year. Mark my words. This nonsense about how your arm will hurt assumes that you're only using it. A touchscreen is complementary not primary. I use it for pinching, for scrolling web pages, and for launching apps. It's much faster to just touch the icon than to mouse over to click one."

    However here's one thing a friend told me: he reckons I'd be better off buying a rMBP as it'll have a higher resale value in 18 months-2 years. So basically, if I intend to upgrade my laptop in that timeframe, it'd be cheaper to start with a rMBP, as the delta between sale price of old one, and cost of new one will be less.

    I suspect there's more than a grain of truth in that, but wondered what others thought - do any of you think about what your current laptop will be worth when we want to trade up to a new one?
     
  25. shaunnyb

    shaunnyb Notebook Geek

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    Ok so I had the alienware m14x r2 spec'd the same as the top end xps 15 (excluding the screen and 750m) . A few weeks ago a couple of the guys im my office got the xps 13.. after having a play around on one.. I bit the bullet and pre ordered the xps 15. If they are half as sleek as the 13.. u are in for a treat.

    To add to what ur friend said.. yes the rMBP will re sell for more, but then u are stuck on osx for 2 years. If I was you I wild hop on this macbook killer as soon as you can before the delivery date jumps too far back.

    Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
     
  26. canadakid

    canadakid Notebook Enthusiast

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    I ordered the mid spec model about a week ago.
    Just out of curiosity, I noticed on the images on the dell website the keyboard has an eject key - but theres no drive. Any ideas why?
    Excited! :D
     
  27. IceManKent

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    Yes, and unless Dell has become lazy in the photos of the laptop (and just posted the US version pictures) - it would appear that the keyboard is NOT the awful "bilingual" Canadian keyboard that almost all laptops in Canada get stuck with.
    As soon as one of us gets this puppy in their hands, we'll know for sure.
    I've got my fingers crossed that this laptop is the killer I've been waiting for.
     
  28. moda

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    It's fairly conclusive the M3800 and XPS15 share a common platform. Same dimensions, same specs, photos look the same. Yea. Only difference is the graphics card (and internal validation, ie, ISV etc), warranty, support and minor configuration differences....
     
  29. canadakid

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    I didn't think of that... that would suck if we get stuck with that bilingual one. Now I'm worried
    Has that happened to you with dell before?
     
  30. canadakid

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    Update: I talked to a sales guy from dell and he says the photo is an "error". (eject key)
    Also, he says they only use unilingual keyboards.
     
  31. kashing92

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    wonder how the photo can be an error

    if the photo is of the newly designed unit, it has to be a physical error with the keyboard

    still nobody knows if this thing is with RJ45 adapter or not
     
  32. seancho

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    I talked to Dell and they told me that the adapter is not included with the XPS15. I was bored, so I convinced them to send me one for free. It took about 45 minutes of chatting, so I'd say it's probably easier to just order the damn thing from Monoprice for $10.
     
  33. canadakid

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    How necessary do you think the adapter is?
    Since I would mostly use it at school and at home use a desktop I don't think I would need it.
     
  34. kashing92

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    it's something you get only when you need it

    I need it most days - I wouldn't care for it if I had wifi all the time
     
  35. canadakid

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    I guess I would probably see more appeal in it if the laptop has wifi problems like the previous model apparently did.
     
  36. kashing92

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    How severe exactly were the wifi problems? If it was actually impeding or noticeably slowing a wifi connection I would settle for nothing less than a refund.
     
  37. spybenj

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    I think it was pretty bad.
    But Bokeh hasn't mentioned any problems yet, and from the pictures of the open m 3800 it does appear as if they've made the set up for wifi better (shielded USB near it plus no longer a metal base)
    But yeah, if wifi doesn't work and isn't fixed by a driver within the return period I'll def return it .
    Let's hope that doesn't happen!
     
  38. moda

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    I was just gonna say, the number one suspicion for the wifi issues on the L521x (from what I understand) was the unshielded USB3.0 port and antenna placement. From Bokeh's photos you can see they've shielded the USB3 ports, and one can only assume they've had to redesign the antennas (at the very least to fit the QHD panel in).... soooo yea, looks hopeful that it's been fixed.
     
  39. kashing92

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    $2600 computer, they better have more than a suspicion if the wifi doesn't work !!!
     
  40. moda

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    True, but the L521x was a much cheaper laptop :p
     
  41. moda

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    I would be pleasantly surprised if the date holds, but if it does that's 3 weeks which is pretty good for a brand new model
     
  43. c0derbear

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    Horrid, in many ways. Both of the initially shipped WLAN adapters (Dell 1510 and Intel 6235) had truly miserable performance on the machine, barely getting 3 Mbps reliably and often having severe difficulty maintaining connections. The Killer-N 1202 worked much better but still suffered from range and performance limitations. My l521x currently has an Intel 7260 which works best of all that I've tried but it still has range and connectivity issues with g and n WAPs in some places. It's uniformly better than the Killer-N but still not super. At home I had upgraded the router to an 802.11ac device and that has been working well. Too bad g and b are what I have to use in the Real World.

    It looks like the new gen has had design factors to compensate for the primary problems of the l521x, the WLAN interference and thermal management being the big two. Makes me wish I had an upgrade path. Being that the thermal issue only is an intermittent issue for me and wlan is usually good enough it's not worth money and effort to do so.
     
  44. maveric101

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    Not really. The top L521X config with 512 GB SSD, was initially $2300 in the US, the same as the new one.
     
  45. RighteousFerret

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    Should we expect any kind of price cuts on the XPS line for Black Friday? Trying to decide whether to preorder now or wait it out.
     
  46. kashing92

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    Don't know how your Black Friday promos usually work for these high end machines, but in the short term the price is either going to stay the same, or go up. It has done in Australia (top model went up to $2900).
     
  47. Bokeh

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    Yeah, no issues that I have seen. 300mb/s connections. 10mB/s downloads.

    Let me know how I can test to see if there are wifi issues.

    All you had to do was ask over on the other thread.
     
  48. shaunnyb

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    Dell Australia just msg me .. I get mind on the 8th nov. Not the 18th like they quoted

    Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
     
  49. mark_pozzi

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    Has your status changed in the order status page? Mine is still showing in production. I ordered top spec on launch day in AUS
     
  50. kashing92

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    Yes, the status is ship
     
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