XPS 15 (L521X) Owner's Lounge

you can return it, they will give you a new windows 8 version.... or you can do what ever you had planned... which I think will not help at all.... in fact if you have enough patience, you can get a full refund.

that is all.

 

I really can't see them allowing me to return it since I got it in June. This is a replacement machine already and I really don't want windows 8 unless it's on a touch screen so even if that was still an option I would have to pass. I have also considered trying to get them to give me a lower model(inspiron) with a touch screen but if I can get this WiFi to work right then I would be happy with the machine. I don't play any demanding game so the throttling doesn't bother me at all at this point

 

I understand your view, Numerous Dell reps have made it clear they are offering refunds... and I was offered a refund after a year ownership of a dell laptop last year... (that's what happens when there are problems with a laptop that came from poor design and they just couldn't figure out how to fix it) I can't guarantee obviously that anew machine will be your solution because of all the variables that are likely leading to poor wifi experience for users, BUT so far w8 version(2nd exchange for diff model due to unresolved issues) has been great for me and huge difference with w7 version. Dell CS can be great even if some of the shot callers clearly have no respect for their customers.

I also don't know about a touch screen upgrade even though you would be down grading on most of the other hardware. If it were me and I were you I would contact Terry-B and either get refund or get w8 version and then install w7 on the new machine with a usb stick dell they can give you.... or give w8 a try... there is a mode where you will rarely if ever see the metro screen... unless you click the wrong thing and then still it's one click away from going back to shunning metro which I do by the way.

Hope that helps

Contact Terry-B at the Dell forums.. google should help if you have trouble.

 

I sent Terry B a PM on the Dell Forums last week about getting my Windows 7 L521X replaced with a Windows 8 version with working WiFi. I haven't heard back from him yet.

 

How long have you had your xps? I'm asking because I have had mine a while and Dell is obviously never going to fix the issue so something needs to be done at this point

 

If your WiFi is "close" to acceptable then in think so. I am frankly surprised it made as much difference as it has, but is proving reliable. I need to test in other conditions though.

It DOES make sense to try contacting Terry-B - it may save you money and result Inna better build.

I was not willing to go that path because of the customization in had already made to my machine.

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Me neither. Still waiting for him to come back with an answer. I am afraid he might be let go like Mr Bill soon, Dell do not like people like him, helping users with their problems.

 

Maybe follow up with a inquiry to him again, just in case it got lost in the shuffle or he maybe away. I would presume that he will get back to you. Each case is different but it's a direct path of communication with someone that tends to have great solutions of course.

 

To the member who is concerned about not being able to get a refund due to purchasing in june, it will not be a problem. I bought mine in july and every 2 weeks or so when the tech guy rings me to give me an udate he always offers me a refund and as far as he is concerned that will carry on indefinately.

Regarding people not wanting a new system with windows 8 on I dont understand them. I have windows 8 on mine and its competely customized now to operate from the desktop just like windows 7, and it even has the start button. Its leaps and bounds quicker than windows 7 so I cant see any logical reason why you wouldnt make the jump.

Lastly I have been dealing with the same XPS tech support guy for the last 4 months and he is very friendly, honest and in the loop regarding the wifi issue. The one thing he did tell me was there is absolutely no difference in the two XPS's other than a slight faster CPU and a dell branded wifi card. No magical aerial replacement or component shielding to help with the wifi. He said they are looking at a different material lid along the lines of carbon or some other exotic composite. So i guess its just sit back and wait for that or return your machine.

 

Everyone should please be very respectful and appreciative of the timer Terry-b can spend on the situation, understand that he (she?) will likely NOT be able to answer every contact w/in 24 hours (maybe not 48 hours) particularly if overrun with PMs.

 

Mine is very close to ok on this machine but the original was terrible. I might give it a try while I wait a bit longer. Iv'e been keeping in touch with tech support but I never get the same person so they wanna troubleshoot every time and that's just never ending time I don't have. I'm going to order one next week and see what happens. I'll let you know if I come up with the same results.

I ran pre release version of W8 and absolutely hated it so that's why I don't want a windows 8 machine. If i could get a windows 8 model and put Windows 7 on it and be guaranteed not to have issues then I would be all in but it's too hit or miss

 

gixer2000:

I'm 100% sure you SHOULD NOT have a problem installing win7 on the "win8" version of l521x - just make sure you download all of the Windows 7 drivers from Dell and have them put nicely aside on a memory stick or something before-hand - it's not like that is an unsupported OS for the machine after all. You're on your own for installation media though I'm pretty sure.

I was also doing some more reading on the Killer-N stuff and the underlying hardware (Qualcomm Atheros 9382 chipset) and it seems to me to be much more appropriate for the XPS than the Intel part, IMO, but I guess Dell needs to differentiate the product lines in different ways (they ship the Killer-N in the Alienware hardware, if you didn't know).

It strikes me that way because the 6235 seems to be much better/reliable at SENDING data than it is at RECEIVING data, at least based on my experience (and a couple other reports).

My impression is that most of the "killer" capabilities of the Killer-N 1202 comes straight from the Atheros hardware (see link below and ad-comments on the 'SST' tech), with a potential significant addition of theoretically fine-tuned/efficient QoS handling on the machine (to prioritize traffic locally). Having done some networked-app development (including games) I can easily see how with the additional context of knowing what apps are running on the local machine that the Killer software could improve behavior overall.

It's not something that Windows *couldn't* do, and there may be a way to tune it in - I just don't know at this point - but it's like the network-data equivalent to the Geforce tuning that is in place for gaming.

QualComm Atheros 9382 linky

In contrast, the Intel Advanced-N 6200 series stuff is listed under their business solutions ... with lots of blurbs targeting traditional IT management capabilities. Seems to me the home-use cases are just easy-peasy after-though, but I don't know really. I don't know anyone that uses it, nor any first hand using it myself (then again, as I've said before, I currently live in "digital backwaters" - sigh).

Intel Advanced-N WiFi linky

All this mess still doesn't change the fact that the physical machine surrounding the wifi module MUST be inhibiting the performance and that there can be no "fix" for that.

 

I ordered it on July 19, 2012. Like most people here, I didn't return or exchange it because we were told that driver and BIOS updates would fix all of our issues and concerns. 5 months later and I'm using a USB WiFi adapter on this brand new sleek looking laptop. Looks a little wrong.

 

I just received mine and I have plans on upgrading the mSATA to install the OS there instead of using it for caching. Since I have windows 8 installed, I can create a recovery USB key, but I understand I cannot use that to install from scratch in this new configuration. Can I create my own windows media? and where would my license key be? I looked under the metal door on the bottom and only found the service tag stuff.

Thanks.

 

trackley: I've not tried it myself BUT if I were in your shoes I would try

- first, disable and un-install all Intel storage-related accelerator drivers and utilities, including the intel management engine interface
( this will de-couple your Windows OS from "needing" the SSD for cache and rapid-start )
- using Windows backup, create an image of the system (to USB key or USB HDD), AND a recovery boot disc (CD)
- change the bios setting for from "intel..." to "AHCI"
- install the new mSATA SSD
- set bios to first boot from the mSATA SSDS
- boot from the recovery cd and restore from the USB stored image on the SSD

In THEORY, this should move the image from one to the other

In THEORY, if it doesn't work you haven't hurt anything either

Dell provides a version of DataSafe also, which if I recall has a capability for creating re-installation media based upon the contents of your recovery partitions (which are hidden). I'd think that a good idea to do in addition. This media is to do a clean installation that should put your machine back to the factory-provided layout. I'd only do reinstallation with this with the original mSATA module installed and the BIOS configured to "intel..." tech instated of "AHCI".

Note: In no part of this is there a way for you to switch to using UEFI if the machine is not already configured that way. I have no idea in which BIOS configuration Dell is shipping the Win8-installed machines so I can't help you there.

disclaimer: This is all typed off the top of my head. There are lots of detailed steps missing, and possibly a horrible omission. But none intentional. ;^)

 

Yes, I too thought about the imaging approach you mentioned. I may give that a shot. I was worried that a system image would not give me a chance to restore to a different drive than the original source, but obviously I haven't tried it yet. I think your correct, it may not hurt to try this.

As far as I can tell in the BIOS, mine did come configured with UEFI enabled. The boot 750GB drive for windows system and 32GB for cache and a small data partition.

Thanks for your suggestion.

 

So this weekend I plan on upgrading my computer to W8. In the process of upgrading to W8 I also want to install an SSD in place of my HDD. Since I am switching out the drives and doing a clean install of W8 what major drivers do I need for the motherboard and such? and where can I find them? Also are there any settings I need to change in the BIOS to accommodate an SSD drive. Other than that I assume the install process will go cleanly and smoothly.

 

There are posts not-far-back in this thread mentioning the Dell blog that documents a clean install, please check for it ( I've quoted it a couple times ).

No special drivers for using SSD as a boot drive.

You probably also want to yank the mSATA SSD, or at least switch the bios to AHCI and use it as a small storage device. It would be useless to set it up as caching for your primary SSD.

With the Win 8 startup tunings and running on an SSD you won't need any of the intel provided startup accelerators.

short list of dell specific major pieces: chipset, freefall sensor, video, wifi, card reader, touchpad, quickset (hopefully not missing any)

 

Having a problem with installing Windows 8. I upgraded my mSATA to 128gb so I want to install Windows 8 there.

I have UEFI boot and switched SATA to AHCI. I made a bootable Windows 8 USB installation (FAT32) but no matter what the computer doesn't recognize it. I also disabled "Secured Boot" under UEFI.

Should I switch to Legacy? I'm honestly not even too sure about the differences of UEFI vs Legacy.

Also, along with disabling Intel RST, is it safe to disable Intel SpeedStep (under Advance options in BIOS)?

Thanks.

Edit: Switching to Legacy mode recognizes my USB just fine. Not sure if I should keep UEFI or Legacy (if I figure out how to get UEFI to recognize my USB drive).

 

UEFI is usually faster booting, I'd run with that. Not sure why your USB wouldn't be recognized there, unless it's missing the UEFI support files - I don't have the info on them handy but there's plenty of info searchable via google on that. I used the Win 7 utility MS put out for building a bootable USB from an ISO image, and used my Win8 ISO that I got from MS, and it worked as-is.

You should leave Speedstep enabled or you may disable processor frequency steppings, and boost.

 

I did use the Windows 7 USB tool to make a bootable USB. It formatted it into NTFS but that didn't work . Then I tried creating a FAT32 bootable usb (using different program) and it still won't work under UEFI. I have honestly no idea why. I will have to try another flash drive and check.

 

Try formatting it fat then using the win 7 tool.

UEFI bios needs it to be fat.

Or just burn a CD, that'll work too.

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i updated everything to the new win8 drivers available in dell for my computer as per service tag...

and noticed that the graphics on my games are:
1. A bit slower than previously (maybe because of bios difference...was on A04 prior to upgrade to latest)
2. Darker than before...that's very strange but it's darker and more difficult to discern darker images. Any ideas about dealing with this? Tested this on two games: Civ 5 and Skyrim...both gave the same results. Dark spots in Skyrim used to be discernible, now it's not playable without casting magic/using torch.

 

So, if this Bigfoot Killer-N 1202 actually makes a significant improvement in wireless functionality and is used by Dell in the Alienware laptops, has anyone tried pushing support to send one as a replacement for the Intel 6235 in the XPS 15? Just wondering if it's even a possibility.

 

Hi.
Regarding the wifi, I must say if the v2 is an improvement, it is not still really good. The wifi rates are now quick enough to allow a 720p video playback over the air, but the reliability of the connection is bad, and watching a video without few seconds stops from time to time is not yet possible. This was tested with W8 and the 6235N. Tonight, I'll make some testing with an Intel 5100 taken from an old Latitude E6400.



Here you'll find 2 images of the L521x inside, one is the v1, the other is the v2....no change.

 

The top model on the Dell site shows a 512GB SSD w/o an mSATA. Would it be a simple task to install a 256GB mSATA as a storage drive only (will the system recognize it as just another drive for storage)? Would give 512GB SSD and 256GB mSATA SSD.

 

Should be fairly trivial

- BIOS to AHCI, verify mSATA is NOT first in boot order
- pop bottom off
- drop in mSATA
- pop bottom on
- boot and go forth with formatting, etc.

 

heatsinks are different(look at part and version numbers..) and to say no difference from face value when you know how computers are and one small change makes a difference... is ridiculous.
cpu is different. power supply different? that like looking at two bodies that are almost the same and saying yep it's the same when anyone with any consideration know that most of whats going on is deep inside and how it all interacts with each other... wifi card = different...

I don't know why you made it your mission to infer false facts and then ride them into the negative nancy blue yonder. you can use truth and still have a bad experience.

 

what router and isp are you using? are you at a university? or private home/apartment internet...etc there are so many variables it's almost funny.

 

If I recall correctly the mSATA module was on a "daughterboard" and someone said that if you didn't order a laptop with mSATA included then it wouldn't have the daughterboard and you wouldn't be able to put any mSATA drive at all. Did that change?

 

The mSATA SSD is a standard item, that goes into a card-edge connector (with one screw that holds it in place, similar to the WiFi card but larger). You can see it just below the fan assembly in Romu's pictures (thanks Romu!).

I have not heard of any machines shipping without the card edge connector socket, and I don't think it's reasonable for Dell to have two different mainboard assemblies if it isn't needed, but I suppose it's possible.

I wonder if anyone reading this board that has received a machine that has no mSATA would mind popping the bottom off and checking.

 

so has anyone tried v2 with the 6235 and did it run better than v1 with the 6235?

 

I just got some bad news regarding the XPS 15 L521x. It seems that Dell is not going to fix the Wi-Fi issue and not willing to exchange the unit with the “New version" anymore, at least in my case. It is possible to get refund even after 3-4 months of Wi-Fi fix waiting, or keep it with external Wi-Fi dongle.
DELL official fix is the USB WiFi DONGLE.
That's it, the story has been written with this laptop.

 

Who did you hear this from?

 

Head office USA. Is strange, on Dell website the official answer is :
"Dell is aware of customer feedback regarding wireless performance on the XPS 15 (L521x) laptop. We appreciate the information customers have provided us so far, and have been using that information along with our own methods to determine the scope of the problem and potential root causes"
It takes some time to determine the "potential root causes" , till than, the WIFI Dongle is the fix

Just a correction in regard with the "Dell official Fix", the context of the message I have received indicated me that USB WiFi dongle is the Fix.....take the USB WiFi dongle and use it when needed.

 

Is anybody really surprised by that?

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Link, thanks, I don't believe it

 

It does seem like Dell are pulling down the shutters on this for us existing users.

I'm a UK owner and have been PMing a Dell USA contact via their forums for a couple of weeks about an exchange for a W8 / new card build. To be fair to the Dell chap, he's always replied quickly and attentively to what I've asked, but tonight he's told me that:

"I have spoke to my contacts from overseas and unfortunately they are telling me that an exchange is not possible. They tell me that they are able to send out an external USB adapter that should increase wireless performance when you can't be near the router.

So my question to you is how much that you like the system, do you like it enough to settle for an external USB adapter? I asked them and they are able to set up a refund and allow you to return the system. I know that these options aren't perfect, let me know what you would like for them to do and I will get them started on the paper work.

Please feel free to reply if you have any questions or concerns regarding either the external wireless adapter or the option for the refund."

I'm dissapointed with Dell, not the person concerned. I can only suppose that they've taken a decison based on economics (given the current state of the company) and not on long run customer satisfaction and repeat sales.

Edit to add: Or maybe there is no certain technical solution within the current electrical / mechanical design?

 

to be clear, link please? where it says that on the "USA Dell website"

 

dur.. my mistake

 

I'm surprised actually I don't believe it is as been represented here today as official or unwilling to do what they just started to do to address the issue. hmm

 

lol jokes on me, so it's not official and you inferred it.. reminder for me to read thoroughly.. egg. face. here. Still glad to understand there is nothing official about an assumption and there is ongoing hope for users who purchased from certain regions.

 

don't know your situation, but I would presume it wouldn't be an automatic thing, it's a last resort thing, and I'm sure each region is different. If it were here in the states I think it would be last resort after multiple hardware issues and replacement parts and even needing an exchange for a new w7 version first too... just a thought. either way it's terrible the issues that have been caused and or experienced negatively to say the least.

 

Just sent an email to my resolution guy, after receiving my laptop back today...

"Good day ******,


I have received the laptop back from depot today December 4th. The depot sent me a letter saying they ran tests and found no issues. I would like to note that I had sent out the laptop on Monday November 26, it arrived to the depot on Tuesday November 27 and the depot called me on Monday December 3rd to inform me that they have started looking at my laptop. Also to note, any reason why the depot has downgraded my bios to bios A11 from A12?

the wifi is still unreliable,low, and unacceptable, and the lcd/keys etc conflict still exists, other users have reported the same issues on the DELL, forums.
I was suppose to be leaving on vacation to *********** where wifi bands are limited to 2.4 but due to work renewing my contract I will be staying for the winter and so my immediate need for a fix is no longer as immediate.

you mentioned that tech support is obligated to repair the "wifi" when there is a solution, does this mean when there is a solution (around or after december) it will also apply to me, even if the solution is an exchange for a revised revised 521 supporting widi?


I installed a keylogger (don't know why I did not do this earlier) and had it monitor all the keys being pressed, I will copy and paste the different keys that the lid presses on when closed in groups of lid closed tests . lwin is the windows start key

closed lid test 1
{ALT} {RIGHT} {CTRL} {ALT} {RIGHT} {ALT} {LEFT} {ALT} {RIGHT} {ALT} {RIGHT} {ALT} {LEFT} {ALT} {RIGHT} {ALT} {LEFT} {ALT} {LEFT} {CTRL} {ALT} {LEFT} {ALT} {LEFT} {CTRL} {CTRL} {ALT} {LEFT} {ALT} {RIGHT} {ALT} {RIGHT} {CTRL} {ALT} {RIGHT} {ALT} {LEFT} {ALT} {RIGHT} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {ALT} {LEFT} {ALT} {LEFT} {CTRL} {CTRL} {ALT} {RIGHT} {ALT} {LEFT} {CTRL}

closed lid test 2
{LWIN} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {LWIN}

test 3 (projector mode)

{LWIN} p

test 4 (opened windows settings)
{CTRL} {CTRL} {LWIN} I

test 5 (opened the start menu apps search)
{LWIN} q

test 6
{LWIN} i {CTRL} {ALT} {LEFT}

test7
{LWIN} i {LWIN} q

test 8
{LWIN} i {LWIN} q


as you can see, the display is clearly pressing on a few keys, and as I have mentioned to you, the depot only stress tests the hardware and sees if they functions, they would not notice something like this because they do not test for it. Even though I demanded the keyboard be replaced regardless of what the techies at the depot think, nothing was done.
And this issue has caused the deletion of some files, and disorganization of my desktop, files, and programs.

{UP} {UP} {UP} {UP} {DOWN} {DOWN} {DOWN} {DOWN} {DOWN} {DOWN} {DOWN} {DOWN} {DOWN} {DOWN} {DOWN} {DOWN} {DOWN} {DOWN} {DOWN} {DOWN}

{ALT} {RIGHT} {ALT} {LEFT} {ALT} {LEFT} {CTRL} {ALT} {RIGHT} {ALT} {RIGHT} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL} {ALT} {RIGHT} {ALT} {RIGHT} {ALT} {RIGHT} {CTRL} {CTRL} {CTRL}"

 

Maybe your bios was downgraded because of a motherboard replacement?

 

no, mobo was not replaced, seeing as my tpm password is still there and lojack computrace trace is still installed on the bios...

 

Whaou, did you have a bad day? Did I hurt or insult you? I don't think so, and I don't really understand why such an agressive message. I made errors by saying the images show the same hardware, and so what? Saying "I think you made a mistake, look, the heatsinks are different" would be the right way to proceed, don't you think?

I'm like you here, just sharing my experience and thoughts about this computer, and I'm far from being negative as the only problem I have is wifi. I don't have any "mission". And for me, sorry, the wifi cards are the same.

Peace, love, and have a good day.

 

here is the key log from having left the laptop on overnight. it goes on for about two pages so ive cut it short...


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I'm only human.

The only reason your card(6235?) is the same is because you requested them to use the same card (they offered everyone that asked the same thing, to preserve having a WIDI function) and not use the one they chose (edited, woops, more poor wording) for the new system for which is the 1901 Dell card, that was your choice.

Since you want to take the chiding/teasing so seriously I will respect it, and respond to you seriously below.

After numerous postings of yours regarding the issues there became a theme of you presenting negative and nonfactual issues. It's weird actually.

if it's your mistake and you are not intentionally making things up then thanks for clearing that up(really wasn't a big deal, I was giving you a hard time based on the facts), sorry you were offended by an honest question, lighten up. It's only the internet, the point was for it to be clear with factual information as there are so many issues going on regarding all this... more convolution and what appeared to be and now you admit is wrong... more convolution is only going to make it even more difficult for those seeking help, answers or clarification...

"Peace, love, and have a good day."

Yeah, all that hippy stuff I agree with.

 

sheesh this is terrible, my first two did this, the non key logger evidence was a dirty outline on the screen in key shapes when the laptop was reopened.

sadly though the new v2 one I has has the same issue, BUT it's not even close to as bad for me yet... I get a hard long line but no key impressions so far.. might be because there is not enough dirt and grease accumulated yet... so sad the lack of quality control they put into these unbelievably expensive machine, AGAIN.