XPS 15 9560 owners thread.

Any chance you could give a detailed breakdown of the differences between 4k/FHD screens, and the issues most commonly experienced? I only know of the following...

FHD:
1920 x 1080
Matte, non-touch

Slightly higher latency ~10 ms

4K:
3840 x 2160
High-gloss, reflective touchscreen
Faster response time ~10 ms
Corning Gorilla glass/higher quality construction

PWM flickering at low brightness
Slightly thicker (?) than FHD and greater weight (?)

 

Nope, no chance at all

 

I checked out that thread but I'd prefer not to drudge through 260 posts of what appears to be an evolving situation. I realize you don't want to keep repeating yourself, but can you link to a post that sums up the 'latest'? Or is it just that 99% of your issues have been solved by the latest updates? If that is the case, why would this be a big issue for you at present and should it be something making people decide against a 4k 9560? It can't be that a screen flicker or wink once in a very long while matters very much? Is the display nice for you otherwise? Is there another big issue I'm missing?

 

This is a pretty good detailed breakdown of the differences between 4k/FHD screens. Take a look.

 

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If run time on battery is one of your considerations then 4k drains the battery significantly faster than FHD.

John

 

I don't throw £2k at a laptop to find the problems are only 99% fixed, I throw £500 at a laptop and accept it has problems.

 

The 4k also has a slight red shift as you go to extreme angles. It's still far superior.

 

I guess you meant that the display for the 9550 got amazing reviews?

 

I think from what i have read that the 4k screen is excellent for everything but gaming due to ghosting.

 

It's still better than the fhd, so not really much of a choice if you have the money

 

Still better than the FHD for gaming you mean?

 

Yes.

 

Man....no reviews...no thermals...no benchmarks yet....come on people!

Ends tomorrow but the XPS is 10% off right now... unfortunately I don't have enough money to get it yet but I'm sure it'll be 10% off quite a bit more....

 

The 9550 FHD also has a slight red shift as you go to extreme angles

The FHD is far superior if you want matte finish. If you want longer battery life. If you want to avoid 4k flicker issue. If your programs have 4k scaling problems. If you are not touch sensitive. If you are weight sensitive. If you are price sensitive

The FHD looks really nice. But the 4k screen looks spetacular

EDIT - these comments are for the 9550 screens. I haven't seen the 9560 but one user just reported his 9560 screen has same 4k screen model number we saw on the 9550

 

Are there bezel differences between the 4k/FHD screens? Like besides resolution/touch/matte what exactly (if any) are the differences? If you had them powered off side by side could you tell they were different?

 

Essentially, the 4k has glass to almost the edges of the screen. Awesome.

The FHD has a plastic bezel typical of what you might see on a regular matte laptop (the bezel is just a few mm wide but has a small lip at the very outer edge so it is not quite as cutting edge design, so to speak). The 4k "bezel" is nicer but in practice the FHD bezel is still really nice as the screen just blends in with the room...

I wanted a matte screen, don't use touch, and don't do photo editing or own any 4k movies so the FHD was a no brainer for me

 

I plan on getting the XPS15 9560 in the current 10% off sell and for the life of me I can't decide between the FHD and 4K.
My main usage would be programming, browsing and watching videos. I plan on doing some light gaming, but mostly on an external monitor. I don't see any advantage to having 4K resolution and the prospect of longer batter life and matte screen is really appealing to me as I'll be travelling with it.

I wanted to ask how bad is the ghosting for non-gaming usage on the FHD? For example - will I notice blurring while watching a video or browsing the web?
How does it compare to the 4K and to 2015 MBPr?
Should I just go on the safe side and get a 4K?

Note - I'm not living in the US and will have someone bring it to me,
so I can't just get a machine and replace it if there's something I don't like about it. That's why I must be sure.

Thanks!

 

I agree with you here... the 4K looks amazing but gives the whole unit some awkward quirks as pressing mentions and it wobbles on my lap which makes typing frustrating. The 4K screen is way to heavy for the compact unit.

4K screen is mirror like glossy.

I'm returning my 9550 4K and getting a 9560 HD.


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Live chat always give you 12% off

That was me when someone posted the panel number, my heart sank a bit but as they have just about sorted the flicker I live in hope.

Umm the screen shouldn't wobble, maybe you have a loose hinge? The hinges should be very stiff. My left hinge came loose a few weeks back and it wobbled when I typed.

 

I mean the whole unit wobbles... like a cradle... the 4K screen is much heavier than the HD screen. Weight uniformity is an issue for me.


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Could I get close up pics? I'll have 4k to compare with tomorrow. If I have any issues I'll be returning and getting one with the fingerprint reader, so need to decide if I want to keep the 4k.

 

There's currently a post on reddit discussing this - https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/5qvxtp/summary_of_differences_between_4k_and_fhd_on_the/.

Can anyone confirm whether the CPU is a downclocked 35W i7 part or the full 45W chip?

 

Yeah I just saw that and was coming here to mention it. nm.

 

The precision is 35w but the XPS is 45

 

I read that long thread about ghosting. Is it still the same as it always was?

 

I see, not got that problem as I use a lap desk.

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On a flat surface it's grand but on my lap it's not so grand... touch the screen and it flips right over... must tone down on the thigh muscles I suppose


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I can see that being a problem

 

They will? Any help as to asking for the 12% off? lol

 

I am not joking when I say I started an online chat, they asked how they can help, and I said i wanted a better than 10% discount on XPS 15. They obliged! I have a permanent 10% discount through my company so I was really being greedy!

 

I'm also surprised that there are so few reviews. I couldn't get mine on Friday. Delivery driver came earlier than expected and they wouldn't reroute to a store for me to pick up....today's the day though.

 

Yeah start talking they always have a deal. if it isn't 12% say it was last time!

Did you get better than 12%?

 

Ok cool! With my corporate and student discounts I should be able to get it under $1k for the i5 model...

 

Nope! It was 10% plus a tenner!

 

Has anyone had any luck with enabling speed shift together with the XPS 9560/Kaby Lake? It's not enabled by default - right?

 

Fluffy - see my comments on the 9550 SpeedShift thread.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/dell-xps-15-9550-skylake-speed-shift.796891/page-9

 

Why are there no reviews detailing whether 9550 issues have been addressed in the 9560? Isn't the new laptop in many users hands now?

 

Good question - there's probably an embargo, so the reviewers have to wait for a certain time to publish their reviews. I've been roaming Reddit in lack of professional reviews. From what I can tell the noise issues, with fans speeding up even at idle, seems to have been vastly improved. The XPS 9560 seems to run quiet while doing light browsing and so forth. Cooling pretty much looks the same, but they probably made sure to properly apply the thermal pads/paste this time around.

Also very few complaints about coilwhine or ghosting (only been looking at the UHD model, as I placed an order myself for that model).

No BSOD reports as far as I can tall. A few reports regarding the WiFi (Kille 1535) disconnecting in conjunction with heavier loads.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/

 

A video review with gaming benchmarks surfaced at reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dell/comments/5r8gyc/dell_xps_15_review_this_thing_is_awesome/

 

Haven't had much time to push mine, it only showed up yesterday afternoon and I was busy.

Its very quiet at idle. Little noisy while gaming, but thats to be expected and it wasn't super noticeable. Plays rocket league at 1080p fine. Doesn't show the mouse at all in supreme commander (this is an issue). Keyboard is a little mushy, not quite as nice as the surface book was. Its surprisingly heavy, but feels very solid. The extra screen space is very noticeable, and welcome. The front corners dig in a bit while typing, but I'll adjust to that. Overall I like, but reserving judgement overall.

Anybody have a factory 500GB drive to test? I'll swap my 256 factory drive back in and run the same test on it.

 

I spoke to Dell chat guys who confirmed in the UK, the fingerprint reader will come mid feb. Price hiked by £30-£50 apparently. Not sure I care for it tbh.

The review over at reddit sold me on it. Those SSD speeds he posted are insane. This will be perfect for my video/ photo editing. The longer I have put off buying it, the more I have justified spending on it (basically looking at top model now). Want 32gb ram but no other way of getting it without the top spec

 

Are you running AHCI mode or RAID mode? Your sequential read is slower than I would think it should be, as is the write. GoNz0 is going to comment that AS SSD is bugged and to run crystal disk mark, but AS SSD works just fine with AHCI and the samsung nvme driver...

 

Or you can just buy a low-end 9560 and add 32GB RAM by yourself...

 

Mid Feb eh, wonder if my refund will be back on the credit card then

 

Its on RAID mode. Running Crystal 5.2.1 now. Seq Q32T1 3182/1802, 4k Q32T1 427.7/376.2, Seq 1677/1733, 4k 32.23/161.5 Looks good.

RAM is very very very easy to upgrade. Its 12 screws on the laptop and the same SODIMM clips as ever.

 

True - but not sure if the 16gb that comes with the low end 4k option is one stick or two. in which case i would be buying 32gb ram which is not cheap (which puts me up at the top option again).

 

Your write speeds are better, but your read should be 2500MB/s or more...

 

Old version of CDM. New version is much higher. Seems good now.

 

More concerned with seeing CPU temps and GPU benchmarks at this point...