XPS 15 9560 owners thread.

I tested the D6000 universal dock with my XPS 9560. Worked fine, but I have no Application that would use nVidia Graphics. No additional Charger was required, as opposed to my USB-C Monitor.

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Very satisfied with the 9560/TB16 combination at the office. I have a U2417H FHD monitor and a mechanical keyboard hooked to the TB16, and I don't even have to open the XPS lid to turn on the system and enter the pre-boot Bitlocker PIN. I'll have a similar setup at home, but with a U2718Q 4K monitor instead.

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Here is my work space
XPS 9560, TB16, U2717D UltraSharp, Audio-technica ATH-AR3BT, Cherry Strait KB, Zowie FK2 mouse, Satechi Universal Vertical Laptop Aluminum Stand
Still looking for a good left hand friendly wireless mouse

https://www.dropbox.com/s/a2wl7wf4f7k58ri/DSC_0628.JPG?dl=0

 

anyone updated to the 1.8.1 bios yet?

 

I did, works fine and smooth. Nothing got broken.

 

i dont use those programs but you shouldnt be throttling. i do use photoshop quite heavily (i know vastly different) and i do play some demanding games like dawn of war 3. i use throttlestop to disable turbo so i stay at 2.8ghz. also helps the gpu from throttling (cause of shared hs).

 

I seem to recall someone complaining about the quality of Dells BIOSes a few days back and almost got his head bitten off for it

Glad it seems to be sorted out now.

 

Me, no trouble atm

 

I couldn't upgrade or downgrade from 1.8.0 because the corruption it caused made it think it had no battery or AC connected so the BIOS flash would fail, I had to do the power button for 30 seconds routine to fix it.

 

Did you flash the BIOS via windows or in the BIOS screen?

EDIT - real question--what do you recommend and why?

 

Initially via Windows then when it failed I did it via the bios option, the bios option showed the power error. I knew the bios stopped seeing AC or battery when I put 1.8.0 on but windows still showed it.
Once I cleared the bios it could see AC and battery again and let it flash.

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really nice.

 

Clean, useful, I like it. And... because I am thinking to a similar solution, how do you feel with those stand and, also, no problems with laptop closed?

 

Hi to all.
I have read of the problems that GoNz0 have had with the v1.8 of the bios. The last one works fine?

 

I ordered a vertical stand from Amazon today. With the default BIOS configuration the TB16 power button doesn't do anything, because the default is for the XPS to power up as soon as it is connected to the dock. When you change this behavior in the BIOS then the TB16 power button mimics the XPS's.

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Thanks for reply. Well, I need also the TB16 for use the laptop closed?

 

1.8.1 works fine

 

No problems with closed laptop until I tried Fortnite and CPU started throttling. Does not happen with laptop open.
Anyway I do not game at work (was just trying to show the game to a colleague) and have no problem while working with Adobe CC apps.

 

On my XPS 9560, upgrading from 1.7.1 to 1.8.1 has reset my BIOS settings and changed from AHCI to RAID, the laptop couldn't boot the OS afterwards and had to restore my settings manually to fix it.

Except that, I can report that BIOS version 1.8.1 seems to have the same more reasonable fan curves as 1.7.1: when the PCH temp is below 32° the fans kick in only when the CPU temp is in the high sixties and turn off immediately when the CPU temp drops to the high forties.

Version 1.8.1 seems also to have fixed a problem with my USB Gigabit Ethernet where I needed to disconnect and reconnect the adapter after the OS boot to make it work (the issue was present only with Linux, Windows didn't have any problem).

 

I went from 1.8.0 to 1.8.1 and it didn't reset the bios, must be 1.7 and below where it corrupts and resets.

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I don't use my Dell for game but for work. Its the machine that I use to make 3d and motion graphics and even if I usually use it open and without external diplay (I use it when I can use the Pc) your setup could be an interesting idea. Thanks

 

So you think is a good idea install it? And, after, I need to look at the bios and do some changes?
Thanks

 

Did you guys notice how web browsers renders colors on XPS 15 9560 4K? I have compared color rendering on Vostro 3700 and XPS. I used latest Chrome + Colorzilla extension to probe colors. On top of the screen you can see actual color code.

Vostro


XPS:


On XPS, every single browser display wrong colors. I did check with different icc profiles, with LUT reset, with Dell PrefierColor installed and uninstalled. Can you go to http://www.color-hex.com/ do a test and share your observations?

 

Did you try to force another color profile in chrome://flags? From what I can see, it's a thing in Chrome (starting with Chrome 61) with color rendering based on the color profile. Don't know why it also happens in other browsers though.

Edit: Most people seem to have fixed it by setting chrome://flags/#force-color-profile to sRGB.

 

This is browser independent. If you have an icc profile loaded and force browser to use sRGB you'll get all the colors described in CSS displayed "correctly" and all photos over saturated.

 

I think this may depend on many things.
A colour calibration issue is described in the 9560 Anandtech review.
Historically a bunch of problems on the relation somewhere between BIOS and Intel video driver were spotted, like the black-levels issue.

 

Are you sure there's a hardware fault or is it just an assumption? I'm really pissed off with this garbage laptop because of calibration issues and now this... Dell support is completely unaware of things like color management and hardware calibrators. One F&%#ing expensive mistake. £3,249.00 MacBook Pro sound like a true bargain now!

 

Hey guys. I wanna ask, does the FHD version with 8GB RAM comes with two 4GB ram sticks or one 8GB ram stick?

 

I am not sure of anything regarding this, except that there have surely been severe driver issues that would affect calibration. Check the Anandtech review, but don't take what they write for granted - they didn't find this in the 9550 review, however these issues were on/off with it too, they didn't play with different BIOS and video driver versions which was a particular sport with the XPS a while ago. Part of the problem is that CM is pretty messed up on windows and few understand it, not surprising Dell don't and they don't advertise factory calibration. Most laptops happen to sell with displays way beyond any calibration ;(

But I'm not sure if you're supposed to see the colour codes match in a CM-profiled browser (though I don't know what exactly the colorzilla picker is supposed to pick up)? I'd assume they should match in a non-calibrated open-loop environment where the display just shows the colour as specified. But a CM program that uses a measured icc profile should strive to display the visually correct colour (appearing as such to an external calibration device) which would involve adjusting the colour code sent to the display? Did you try a fresh Windows install without the DPC and any colour profile and LUT (for non-CM)?

Here, the colour codes don't match, using a 9550 UHD with DPC uninstalled but its icc profile applied in windows CM. I've tried a couple of icc profiles some including notebookcheck posted but none looked better, while my calibrator is considered obsolete for wide-gamut displays and I feel stupid having to buy another, especially considering that it might not work right.

 

Mine had two 4GB RAM Sticks (FHD Version)

 

No way to know. It depends on what Dell has in the parts pin and pricing. You can search the post and see what happens when Dell salespeople "promise" a certain RAM configuration. . .

As a general matter, I would expect 2x4GB, but you won't know until you try the computer.

 

After what happened with the 1.8.0 bios relase now I have some doubts about bios configuration.
Well, someone that want share a screen shot of its bios setup?
I want compare your with mine and understand if its ok.
Also suggestions for a better setup for maximum performance could be useful.
Thanks

 

My XPS is that version and came with 2x4 GB RAM sticks (a few weeks ago) but 2x4 sticks configuration is not mandatory for DELL.

 

Soooo, it is possible they do ship with just one 8GB RAM stick. Too bad there's no way to get that sort of config from Dell.

 

Possible but unlikely.

 

Hi All,

For years I am following Dell XPS devices evolution closely.
Lately my old Vostro 5470 motherboard is died and Service of Dell on my local priced replacement motherboard twice of my device price on its invoice 4 years ago.

Now I am thinking on getting an XPS 15 with latest configuration.
I am curious to get it with 4K touchscreen and if it feels too much I wonder if it will be ok with FHD resolution on that screen?

Any ideas?
Also should I wait until 8th generation of 9560 release?

 

Looks like Dell has again recall the BIOS, this time ver. 1.8.1.
It is not available for download, at least not for me.

 

I bricked my computer. went to install BIOS 1.8.1 and I guess there was a windows update that had downloaded, which started installing on reset. then it rebooted, the bios flashed, another reboot, now no boot. so it got halfway through the update before flashing the bios. no way to go back to previous version and restore and image restore both return errors. any ideas?

 

Hi Gazuga,

I think you definitely need the help of the computer Gurus who graciously come to the forum yet in the mean time, Below is a link to an article giving two things to try when this occurs and although it doesn't pertain to the same BIOS update maybe just maybe one of them will hopefully work for you.

Good Luck & Regards,
SDeP58

https://www.notebookcheck.net/PSA-Latest-XPS-9560-BIOS-1-2-4-may-brick-notebook.212922.0.html

 

Hold the power button down for 30 second, when you see the battery light flash quickly it has started its recovery, it should restart a couple of times but after a few minutes it should start?

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+1 xps9560 user here
UHD 1Tb ssd 32ram win10 version

Long time lurker. I've read last 30 pages and last year I read the first 200...but now I forgot most of it.

Can you please tell me what important things should I do before I start using it.

What should I backup? I guess colour profile. Anything else?

I intend using it for photo and video editing and rendering. Lightroom. Premiere. No gaming.

Any necessary updates? Tweaks? Anything to check for?

For now I just switched the windows to english.

I would like to skip unecessary things as much as I can. And avoid any messing with hardware if I can live without it.

I dont need full blown maxed out machine pushing it to its limits. If it can do what I need well out of the box - perfect. But if there are some must dos to fix possible problems I want to do that.

 

My situation is similar to yours.

My XPS 15 is configured the same as yours with the i7-7700HQ Quad Core Processor, 32 GB of RAM, a 1TB SSD, and the UHD screen. Like you, my most resource-intensive use of the computer is related to photo editing, including converting large RAW files to 16 bit tiff files, post processing the tiff files in Photoshop, stitching multiple images,etc.

I tend to be a minimalist with regard to doing tweaks to the machine. With my XPS 15, I started by deleting any unnecessary software installed by Dell, including Dell programs.

Then, I made sure that I disabled unnecessary start up programs, both in the Task Manager and by using the Microsoft Autoruns tool.

After installing my RAW editing software and Photoshop, I discovered that there were serious issues with the 4K screen and proper scaling of tool palettes and menus in Photoshop. Eventually, I found a solution in this post.

https://www.danantonielli.com/adobe-app-scaling-on-high-dpi-displays-fix/

Otherwise, I've made no significant changes to the laptop, and the hardware configuration has shown itself capable of handling any photo-related task with room to spare.

 

AFAIK these instructions are valid for dated Adobe software, the current versions allow increasing the menus for high DPI displays.

 

The cloud-based monthly subscription versions of Photoshop don't have the scaling issues, but there are many who paid up to $600 for for their owned copies of PS CS6 and who are still more than satisfied with continuing to use them, and the scaling problem does exist with CS6.

 

Hi everyone!
Do you have problems with your keyboard? My computer has a physical problem with the keyboard. Hitting the "t", "r" and after "e" keys triggers the "F3" key... Am I the only one? Just started to do this a couple of days ago...

 

I've the same problem!

 

You had the problem since when?

 

Few days

 

i also use the laptop mainly for photo editing and office work.
i dont have any sclaing issues with adobe products, but i do have scaling issues with nik software and this is a known bug. the workaround i used to use was to switch the desktop resolution to 1080p and then back after using nik. but ive somehow gotten used to the small text and im quite familiar with the layout of nik so i dont use the workaround much anymore.

 

Well I fully agree that their subscription price hike is ridiculous for us hobbyists, particularly if not using PS at all. But I'm still on the slightly dated last non-subscription LR 6, which has been fixed for high-DPI scaling quit a while ago. I upgraded from LR4 mainly because I didn't want to waste 4K resolution due to this scaling thing.

But this fix is a much better idea than changing the resolution everytime.