XPS 15 9570 Owners Thread

I'm on the fence between buying an XPS 15 9570 or a Gigabyte Aero 15w. I was leaning towards the Dell, but reading this thread has really discouraged me to go for it. The laptop suddenly waking up from sleep while closed and in my backpack is just a huge dealbreaker, and it seems that this is happening to everybody. Is there anyone who has NOT ran into this issue?

 

It was happening to me with the 9550, but I don't think this is happening to everybody, far from it, otherwise there would have been more complaints I guess.

 

I decided the XPS because of the bad reviews of Gigabyte trackpad and keyboard....
The XPS is not for gaming, but it's a really great machine for working, virtual machines, video editing, photoshop......

 

New bios uploaded 1.3.0:

https://www.dell.com/support/home/es/es/esbsdt1/drivers/driversdetails?driverId=9D1J8

Fixes:
1.Fix sometimes Intel Management Engine Interface will lost or show yellow bang after updating BIOS issue
2.Remove redundant setup option
3.Fix the potential no boot issue after updating BIOS

 

Have you checked if you enter connected or disconnected standby?
I also switched from RAID to AHCI. Not sure if it is related. I'll try to see if I changed something else.

Never happened so far.

 

Cool. Thank you.

 

There is no connected/disconnected standby, just "modern standby", like I said before. You cant even toggle the option anymore in Windows 10 settings "keep wifi on during sleep", MS removed that with an update in the past months.

Just did the new bios update, and the laptop hangs again in boot at Dell Logo, but it is not a crash... I can press shift lock and the LEDs of the keyboard word, when I put it to sleep and wake up, the boot continues normally... I had this issue now a few times. On the one laptop too I shipped back before...

I also had it now a few times, that the screen is just black when opening the lip / waking up from "modern standby", but Windows is running normally behind it, but the screen wont turn on. I had this issue actually YEARS ago already on my old Dell 7140 tablet with Windows 10... JUST GREAT.

Edit:
I just did the 1.3.0 bios update, I was already wondering what the "2.Remove redundant setup option" meant and I was like... oh no they didnt.... oh no they didnt... oh no they didnt... THEY ... DID!!!

S3 option WAS REMOVED FROM BIOS!

I won't tolerate something like this. This is unbelievable.I won't use a laptop which has no SUSPEND TO RAM. I had NEVER bought this laptop if it had no S3. I will totally do everything in my power, to receive a 100% money return for this laptop, if S3 wont come back.

 

pretty weak benchmarks on my stock ram and toshiba SSD. will definitely put a Samsung evo in there but any recommendations for fast ram? our options seem limited, i want to get the g skill rip jaws that someone has conifrmed to work for the 32gb 2666mhz but i really dont need 32 gb and i saw a 16gb 2x8 set on amazon. what you guys think? its the same speed but just 2x8 instead of the 2x16gb. you think it will work LOL

 

@fedd1233 it will work at the same timings so the performance will be the same.

 

That is not the resolution I expected. what else did they remove?

 

thats what i was afraid of, i wish we had some more compatible ram. come on dell wtf,

 

Unless you are doing some specialized work, you may notice zero difference between the Toshiba & Samsung SSds.

Again for ram, I don't think you will notice a difference unless you are doing specialized work.

I search for lowest CAS latency at a given speed. When I was looking for 2400MHz sodimm, that was HyperX impact. Due to compatibility issues we see here on the 9570 RAM, I think you should search for specific part numbers that work for others on the 9570 (full part number, not just the name of the ram). Don't trust the maker websites.

 

Totally not true. You can easily notice the difference, by for example ziping/dezipping a folder with lots of little files, or copy a folder with 1000 little files each 10-1000Kb or so. The difference are worlds. Same for installing games, programs, ect pp.

 

This IS an example of specialized work. and the difference IS there but IS NOT worlds.

 

Nope... this is an example of NORMAL world situations, and the difference is HUGE KB/s against MB/s. NORMAL WORLD SITUATIONS. Multiple file access happens all the time, and it makes a HUGE impact on the system. even opening Chrome or Photoshop or whatever means the system is opening hundreds of files in that moment. If small/rapid file access is 1/3 of the performance between the SSDs, than the summed up performance is also just 1/3, regardless if one can read ONE file per time with 2300MB/s and the other with 1300MB/s (oh you wont notice a difference between the two... bla bla bla bla).

 

That seems like just 12 mWh drain?? That's nothing for 6 hours. Something isn't right there?

I've played with the standby (XPS seems to have only disconnected standby, which is probably better, so won't even attempt to use wifi).
My bluetooth headphones connect straight away to my XPS which is in the standby, so it seems the bluetooth is active while in standby.

The few times I've put the laptop to sleep, the short standby (10-30 min) had a discharge rate at around 1600 mWh (970 mWh per hour would be 1% of the battery), which is high discharge rate, but since it's short it consumes just a half or 1% of battery.
When the sleep was longer than an hour the discharge rate was mostly around 650 mWh (around 0.65% of battery per hour). I use sleep on battery only for up to several hours, and for me this discharge rate is OK.

I haven't had the laptop waking up from the sleep, even with shaking or having it on my motorbike or changing wifi networks or connecting to bluetooth devices.

If this is the usual workings of the modern standby then I can live with it. And I like the literally instant wake up.

Btw, I uninstalled the Dell support apps and disabled the start up of the Dell Premier Color and Mobile Connect apps in Task manager.


EDIT: I tried the overnight standby for 8 ours and the drain was around 900 mWh (% of batter). But the laptop hibernated after some time.
There's a powercfg setting which changes the percentage of battery when the laptop hibernates if the drain goes over that percentage. It looks like the default setting is 5%. I changed it to 10%, but haven't tested on overnight standby again to see if that will work. I don't want the laptop to hibernate unless the drain is higher than at least 10% of battery...

 

How do you switch to AHCI? Only change the BIOS setting and the Windows will install all the drivers and make the switch on boot up, or I need to make some other changes?
Any changes in SSD speed with AHCI?

I have Hynix 512 GB which is not very good (2530 MBs read, 1370 MBs write), but when I check it with Chrome running the write speeds go to miserable 700 MBs, practically half. What's up with Chrome??

 

Samsungs SSDs are the best. No argument here. But they are not "KB/s against MB/s" level.

If you do a lot of file operations and feel the need for that extra performance, buy it!
No one is holding you.

 

I noticed a (minor) improvement in the benchmark by switching to AHCI. Maybe it's a fluke.
You need to :

 

Yes... I just noticed that TOO, that the XPS 15 9570 just supports "disconnected" modern standby, because I looked with "powercfg /a", it just says, it supports disconnected standby. THAT turns the whole thing even more ad absurdum!! NOW there is not a single reason, why this stupid laptop should use modern standby. Microsoft moron reasoning is, that connected standby is the huge advantage for modern standby, so it can do "little task" like update UWP apps and so on.

IF I put my LAPTOP to SLEEP, I want it to SLEEP.... SLEEEP!!! Not do little task in the background. Modern standby just makes sense on tablets and cell phones, NOT A LAPTOP.

Another example: It is DANGEROUS on laptops!! If the laptop wakes up with lid closed, happened to a few people now, on a laptop which has a 45W output... it would melt literally in your backpack maybe.

Another example: You do WORK with the laptop, what does that mean? There may be running lots of open programs on it, maybe even a scientific calculation. Just say you have a game open for this example... if you put it into S3... the laptop is OFF. Every compilation STOPS. The state is frozen 100% in memory, nothing will change, until woken up again.... laptop 100% off but memory, no heat whatsoever, no drain... total drain is like 1-2% per 12 HOURS!!! 1-2 % PER 12 HOURS. How is it in ****ty modern standby!? THE FANS ARE EVEN STILL ON IF YOU HAVE A GAME RUNNING OR CALCULATION AND PUT IT TO "SLEEP". Your brain tells you in 1 second this modern standby cant work on a laptop... how should it?? It just """tries""" to go to a lower CPU state... it TRIES... and it FAILS... BADLY. Every little service running in the back will literally wake it up again all the time, Chrome, whatever... the chance for this is just infinitely LARGE, where it is ZERO with S3... ZERO.

If I put my laptop to sleep... I want it TO SLEEP... 100% SLEEP. If I close the lid, I will mostly carry it around in my bag, or whatever. I want it to be off in that moment (hours)... and dont come with "why not put it into hibernate then"... really? REALLY? Writing 16GB of RAM everytime to SSD where there is no need for that with S3.

And yes... as you said, Windows 10 seems to recognize it as a drain, and will override the hibernate timer, and just go to hibernate if there was a drain detected for 5% of battery. The mWh value is also not correct, it doesnt even show me a value most of the time with the sleepreport. I would say, the drain is about 1.5-2% of total battery per hour, which is not acceptable. IT DOES NOTHING IN THAT TIME. WHY SHOULD IT BE ACCEPTABLE!?????? Compared to S3 thats at least 10 times WORSE. It also means it stresses all components of the laptop 24//7 where there is no need for!!

It is just NONSENSE, that you have to close every little program, every service, everything, before you put it to """""sleep""""" where then the chance is still high, it will fail, and has a drain over that time. Modern standby just doesnt WORK at least on a laptop, it is just TERRIBLE.

Like you said, if you have a bluetooth device like a mouse connected, it will stay connect regardless of Wifi... if you accidentally move the mouse, it will wake up the laptop. You cant deactivate this... also TERRIBLE.

The SKH SSD is "ok" btw, not as terrible as the Toshiba, still bad compared to Samsung.

@abujafar
Did you do a clean Windows 10 install btw on your machine? Are you running ThrottleStop for undervolt? I noticed TS has a permant 0.1% CPU usage in task manager, I will test if it maybe causes a drain in modern standby, but I doubt it.

Edit:
I tried the procedure with activating the next boot as safe mode, go to bios, change to AHCI, reboot, and now Windows wont boot anymore, it tries to enter safe mode but is stuck at Dell Logo forever Im loving it Also entering manual safe mode via boot options of Windows 10 wont work, it shows Dell logo forever and wont do anything. Tried a couple of times, always stuck. Went back into bios, changed back to RAID, and now the same, wont boot anymore.

Tried booting like 20 times into Windows recovery with prompt, did back and forth several times bcdedit /set and /remove, after 10 reboots, RAID is working now again. But the procedure totally does not work for my model with the SKH SSD, dont know why... it will just stuck at Dell Logo after switching to AHCI in bios and even safe mod wont boot. I hate Windows 10... of course you had to wait like 2 mins every time too, because it always tries to automatically identify problems for you, how NICE IF YOU DONT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

Edit2...:
Tried the whole procedure again, same problems, stuck at Dell Logo. Tried rebooting again several times through Windows reboot menu... and then after like the 5th try in this second try, safe mode booted, I booted normal, and now I am with AHCI driver. This is just unbelievable...

The result... I totally dont know if I am happy how with AHCI...

RAID
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CrystalDiskMark 6.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2018 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : https://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 2531.991 MB/s
Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 1335.220 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 488.396 MB/s [ 119237.3 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 424.227 MB/s [ 103571.0 IOPS]
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 116.914 MB/s [ 28543.5 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 110.273 MB/s [ 26922.1 IOPS]
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 22.683 MB/s [ 5537.8 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 41.587 MB/s [ 10153.1 IOPS]

Test : 1024 MiB [C: 24.9% (115.0/462.1 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec]
Date : 2018/07/16 18:42:29
OS : Windows 10 [10.0 Build 17134] (x64)

AHCI
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CrystalDiskMark 6.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2018 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : https://crystalmark.info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 2306.577 MB/s
Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 868.460 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 672.158 MB/s [ 164101.1 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 612.637 MB/s [ 149569.6 IOPS]
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 296.012 MB/s [ 72268.6 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 243.737 MB/s [ 59506.1 IOPS]
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 15.254 MB/s [ 3724.1 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 36.957 MB/s [ 9022.7 IOPS]

Test : 1024 MiB [C: 25.5% (118.1/462.1 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec]
Date : 2018/07/31 9:22:44
OS : Windows 10 [10.0 Build 17134] (x64)

 

Numbers on a screen are great, but that's really all they are. I've only owned every Samsung NVMe SSD since the PM/SM951 except for the 970pro and I've owned a lot of other SATA and NVMe drives and I haven't been able to tell a difference. I'd love to see some real world tests from you showing the differences. What are you installing games from that install at 3GB/s? There are numerous real world tests showing that loading games isn't better on an NVMe drive. Really the biggest benefit would be video editing and transferring files from one NVMe to another but the XPS has one NVMe slot.

 

@maffle I totally understand you're upset about the S3, but I doubt Dell would remove the S3 without first consulting with Microsoft about it. It looks like Microsoft is phasing out S3 from Windows and totally moving to the modern standby. Whether we like it or not, this is what's happening...

Btw, I've had MANY situations where my past laptops were woken up in the regular S3 sleep. So, I don't think S3 sleep is perfect either, but more depends on the hardware of the machine itself.

The times I've used the modern standby on my new XPS 15 I had lots of various programs open, with wifi and bluetooth on. It looks like the discharge rate doesn't depend on whether there are any programs running or not.
So far I haven't had the laptop waking up from the standby, so that's good.
And I never end up in situations where the laptop is asleep for a long time when on battery (it's always plugged in during the night), so I don't mind if it uses 1 or 2% of battery for a few hours... Of course it's worse than the S3 sleep, but it's not a problem for me.

ThrottleStop measures all the data in the background by default. Just press Stop Data button and it'll go back to 0% CPU.

Sorry to hear about all your troubles with the AHCI! Looks like it runs worse than RAID, at least with Hynix SSD.

Here are my Hynix 512 GB SSD results WITH Chrome open (without Chrome the Seq write is 1350 MB/s). Your 4K speeds seem a bit low?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 6.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2018
Crystal Dew World : https://crystalmark.info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes
Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 2538.300 MB/s
Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 758.824 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 676.643 MB/s [ 165196.0 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 354.924 MB/s [ 86651.4 IOPS]
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 270.552 MB/s [ 66052.7 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 357.765 MB/s [ 87345.0 IOPS]
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 35.786 MB/s [ 8736.8 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 83.383 MB/s [ 20357.2 IOPS]

Test : 1024 MiB [D: 61.4% (238.3/388.4 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec]
Date : 2018/07/26 13:11:40
OS : Windows 10 [10.0 Build 17134] (x64)

 

Nope, it is perfect, and that was your (the users) fault and your fault alone : - ) You have to CORRECTLY disable ALL devices and also ALL timer events which can wake up from S3 which you CANT btw for modern standby, especially BT, the option is missing in the device manager if youre in modern standby. You can easily double check for S3 with powercfg. If you do it correctly... the device wont ever wake up again anymore from S3 BUT if the USER presses the power button.

Very funny Just run a game or prime95 and then enter modern standby...

Are your SKH results with AHCI? What driver version? Why does yours seem to perform way better... mine is a 512GB SKH too. And what is this weird bug with Chrome open which causes write speeds to drop by 50%?

 

No... totally NOT... your example is totally NOT... a good example for it. I said... no one cares for SINGLE FILE copy, and your example IS SINGLE FILE COPY. Multiple small file copy/access is the important thing, and the other SSDs just SU** at it compared to Samsung SSD. And THAT is the real world scenario, not how fast it can copy ONE LARGE file... Programs become more complex in file structure, a game with 50GB maybe has thousands of files, even worse, it uses a database file which is like 5GB split, and in it is a zip archive... there the access is even more important. Using a PC is all about how fast it can access as many files as possible.

 

So my real world experience for the past couple of years with every Samsung NVMe drive and other SATA/NVMe drives isn't as worthwhile as your experience where the other SSD just "sucks." There are tons of tests where it shows that a SATA and NVMe drive are nearly identical when loading games with tons of files. I welcome you to provide some proof that users are going to notice any difference between NVMe drives, heck even between SATA and NVMe drives. I can paste in a ton of youtube videos/tech review sites that show my point. Can you? And no not just videos of people zipping and unzipping files (although that really sounds like a fun computer task...).

Oh before I forget, I used to have Raid 0 512GB 960 pros until I realized there was zero benefit to it even though my desktop gets used to transcode movies ALL the time.

 

which NVIDIA drivers do you install?, the ones with windows?, v23.21.13.8934?

There seems to be a newer version:
https://www.dell.com/support/home/en/en/esbsdt1/drivers/driversdetails?driverId=X1N95

v24.21.13.9793

But when I try to install it, I get an error saying "System not compatible"...

 

I always get the latest directly from nvidia. If it won't install I would run display driver uninstaller and then install it.

 

My 9550 with a Sata Samsung M.2 in it (850 Evo) felt and responded exactly the same as my 9570 with an NVMe 960 Pro in it, could not tell any difference at all. I've a gaming machine which had a Sata drive that had the OS on it, with 3 other 2.5" SSD's with games, videos and music on. I recently installed an NVMe drive in this machine as I wanted to get more drive space, installed the OS and Fallout 4 & TW3 and the boot up, and game loading times are just the same as before - I can tell zero difference. Even using Davinci Resolve it feels the same, I cannot tell any difference at all.

Ok the benchmark results are impressive, but do be aware every time you do them you are using up the drives TBW value, basically for nothing.

 

But if you take a look to nvidia supported systems, there are not any Max-q 1050... will everything work fine??

 

What do you mean it's not supported? Just because it doesn't say 1050MQ doesn't mean it won't work, they would have way too many entries if they included the MQ designation separately. It'll work.

 

I haven't fiddled with any Windows settings to make the S3 sleep better in my old laptops. But then, why should I? I'd like it to just work, and I don't have much time to tinker with all kinds of causes of wake ups... S3 sleep did work in 95% of cases, but every now and then it didn't.

I'm not running prime95 and entering the standby. I have around 10 windows open of web, office and programming kind of apps with wifi and BT on. It's just my experience that the laptop (so far) hasn't woken up even once with all these windows open.

My Hynix SSD results are on stock RAID. Haven't changed anything. Normal Dell balanced power plan with default Optimized thermal management setting in Dell Power Manager.
I think power plan settings can affect the SSD speeds quite a bit. Might be worth playing with them...
I have no idea why the seq write speed is halved when Chrome is running! Maybe it's just on my laptop, but it is weird...

 

so its obvious to get nvme over sata. but should i get the 970 evo or the 960 evo lol

 

For reference, these are the results with my SSD (512 SK Hynix, AHCI mode, on AC)

 

My XPS came with Hynix 1tb, this is my diskmark...

 

lol.

 

Its been a while since I've had a Windows laptop. Getting my i9 version tommorow. Can I just download the latest video drivers from Nvidia or just get them from dell?

Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk

 

Can you get a new DiskMark v6 and check again? The old v3 has a different test and different results than v6.

 

@abujafar
Did you repartition your SKH into C and D (also did a new Windows install)? Or why is it D: and has 0/242. Weird, how yours has a significant better writing speed in 4k than mine... what is your AHCI driver version youre using right now? Is it really actually a good idea to use AHCI if you dont use a Samsung SSD? Then you need it, but for others, I saw a block diagram somewhere, that with RAID, the "path" of the data flow is a bit different, and if using AHCI it goes through the OS first compared to a more "deeper" flor through the SoC. Does AHCI maybe use more CPU while copying?

I got feedback again from the Alan guy at Dell... and I am totally frustrated now. He told me, they removed S3 from bios and it wont come back, because the "9570's hardware doesnt support S3", original quote. How pathetic is that? It is obviously not true. Of course, it can do S3. I am also wondering if it works correctly under Linux, and the C state bug doesnt happen there. Maybe someone could check that using Linux on the 9570?

I totally dont want to use a laptop, which has no proper sleep. Modern standby is a joke, compared to S3. It cant work correctly. If the OS/CPU just "tries" to sleep, how can it work? Every tine little process, or service, could literally create a drain, and you wont ever find out, which one, or it is really hard. Or some driver issue.... Having lots of programs open, then the chances literally exponentially explode, with every app more running, each more chrome tab... that there will be a drain in modern standby, because there is always a little part of CPU usage, which will wake up the CPU half of the time or even worse. Putting it to S3... and it will always sleep, always work, never drain. Every part is OFF, but a little bit of power for the RAM state. Zero power to CPU, SoC, Wifi, Bt, fans, ect.

 

Yes, I partitioned.
I am not a great expert. From my understanding, there shouldn't be any difference. When using a single drive, RAID should use an AHCI mode.
I don't really know. One advantage is that you don't have to install Intel RST.

Still working fine for me. Not closing any program.
I will check how much the "S3 mode" sips before upgrading to 1.3.0 firmware

 

Did you do a clean Windows installation? I happened to run a benchmark before reinstalling (and switching to AHCI) and one after and the difference was massive. And this was with the same SSD (now replaced with a Samsung PRO, mainly for size reasons)

 

I've ordered a 9570 from DELL Outlet. Any tips or suggestions on tests I should perform to make sure everything is working properly?

 

Remember when I had my old Xps 13 9550 it came with dell backup and recovery to restore the computer to the factory image with all the dell drivers preinstalled.

Cant find this on the 9570. What is the proper procedure to restore to the factory dell image?

Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk

 

Here is it, and yes, its a clean installation...

 

... no... NOT working FINE. Just open a game which uses the Nvidia GPU, let it run for a few moments so CPU and GPU are like 70°C or so, now put it to """sleep""" (modern """standby""")... what happens? The laptop will NOT SLEEP... the fans are ALWAYS on, temps ALWAYS stay around 60-65°C... drain is obviously high. This is totally DANGEROUS and not what you expect. You expect a laptop to be off for sleeping. Lets say someone is playing a game, or is just using some high CPU power computation... or just has some high CPU usage Chrome tabs open. Now he puts it to "sleep", and puts the laptop in his (small) travel bag, maybe even a totally closed laptop cover. Would you expect it to burn in your bag now with lid closed, fans on (no air circulation possible in the bag) ... ??? No, you dont. If you put a laptop where some high computation is happening (even a game) into S3, all computation will stop, all heat will stop. The laptop is really off, and safe for travel.

 

I don't find it strange that the fans keep spinning to cool down the system before sleeping or even a shutdown.
Clearly, they have to stop at some point and the system has to enter a proper sleep state.
Do they stop spinning at some point?

I'll try when I get home.

 

How many times... NO, they WONT, under this constellation, they will spin forever and the CPU and GPU will stay forever around 60-70°C. Thats also the reason, why you can have a drain in modern standby. By your reasoning, a drain cant happen in modern standby, it wouldnt be possible, right? So it wouldnt matter to have any kind of program or any amount of different programs or any service running. It sleeps, right? So how could there be a drain?

Does someone here has another more modern laptop (7/8th gen intel) btw, maybe even a 9550 or 9560 and could test, if the c stuck bug happens exclusively on the 9570? Maybe it is a general bug with Windows 10 actually (right now).

 

To be honest I’ve never needed to use sleep because I’ve never trusted it on any computer. Especially with how fast modern machines boot, I’m too paranoid of a person to just close a laptop and put it in a bag. I always turn it off.

I got my 9570 today and I love it. I don’t know if I’ll even bother repasting. After updating all drivers (Nvidia through Nvidia Experience, Killer driver had to be updated through device manager for some reason) I’m very happy with it. Locked Diablo 3 at 60fps and at max graphics cpu and gpu were around 75c. Room for improvement but not terrible. Going to undervolt tomorrow and see how it does. My only nitpick is that the U key is a little crooked, but still feels fine.

 

i love mine as well, about my second week owning and its so solid. i bought it knowing what i was getting and knowing its not the best gaming laptop out there but man am i happy with the build quality and over all performance with work use and gaming on it is just a plus. to be honest i shouldnt be gaming on a laptop when i have a 1080 ti desktop right next to me. but yeah this thing is solid. picture myself traveling with this laptop for work for years and making alot of memories getting work done. hopefully in the future i will add a large samsung ssd and put some fast timing ram, maybe 32gb but most likely will never need that much ram and just pay for 16gb of some good timings.