XPS 15 with maxwell coming?

Topic title says it all, are there some indications we can see a dell XPS 14/15 with a GTX860M any soon?
The current dell XPS 15 is one of the most perfect devices out there, but the difference between an GT750M and the new GTX860M is just mindblowing.
Since this costs between 1500 to 2000EUR I want the best of the best

 

If you want the best of the best, take my 10 years exp with dell as advice and look elsewhere, dell products will only give you trouble..

 

Then you're going to wait forever. On the other hand, if the next-generation hardware will do, Dell refreshes on a yearly cycle, so just wait for that.

Oh really? Took you a long time to figure that one out. One may wonder what took you so long.

On the other hand, if you take my 15+ years experience, with something like a dozen or so machines that either I or the members of my family have used personally over the years, you'll find that Dell products will give you little trouble, and if they do, their support is often excellent. There's always exceptions, of course, but at least their business-class and gaming systems are excellent. Consumer models, on the other hand, can be hit-or-miss, but that's no different from other manufacturers.

 

What do you suggest, that comes at the same level hardware wise? And dont say a macbook pro...
That starts at 2600EUR for a dedicated GT750M.

 

There is the Razer Blade with a 870m. No reviews on it yet though. Sadly Dell isnt at the cutting edge performance wise.
P.S.: Vote on the link in my sig to get Dell to change that. Thks

 

What do you mean what that? I think quadcore/dedicated gpu/16gb ram/512gb ssd/decent battery life/nice design is something you dont find by much other brands?
I would like to see a new, updated asus U51VX, but it's not coming..

Is dell XPS lineup not of great quality maybe?

 

I understand you point, I just think that a 750m is kinda week, especially for games. Dell still has very nice laptops, just not the cutting edge (the best available).

 

Actually... Asus will be showing the zenbook nx500 next week. I believe it is the successor.

 

The XPS isn't a gaming laptop though, anything above a 750m would remove the thin form-factor and be overkill for most users.

 

The next XPS 15 might be 20nm Maxwell, 950M. But it will be a while. Here's why. If it comes after Broadwell is out which is supposed to just trickle in at Q4 2014, you're looking at Q1 2015 if Dell waits a few months as they usually do. Maxwell 20nm looks to be out around this time too (Q4 2014-Q1 2015).

But there are other manufacturers making light 4K laptops in the next few months if you're looking for a similar laptop with 8xxM soon.

 

Have you checked the Blade? it is only .8" high and weighs only 2.1kg and has a 870m. So power can be made in thin form factors.

 

But that's a 17incher isn't it? More space there.

And that is a gaming machine.

 

Here are some thin/light nvidia 800m series laptops you may want to research as alternatives:

GIGABYTE - Notebook & Netbook - Notebook & Netbook - P series - P34G v2 (Available Now - Maxwell based 860M 4GB GDDR5)
GIGABYTE - Notebook & Netbook - Notebook & Netbook - P series - P35G v2 (Available Soon - Suspected Maxwell based 860M 4GB GDDR5)
Lenovo Y50 Laptop | 15.6" High-Performance Gaming Notebook PC | Lenovo (US) (Available Soon - Suspected Maxwell based 860M)
MSI USA - Dragoon Army Site | GS60 Ghost Gaming Notebook (Available Now - Kepler 860M)
http://www.asus.com/News/N1X2OsH0FtVJE5MF (Available Soon (June?) Asus Zenbook NX500, note sure which discrete NVIDIA GPU will be used - guessing 850m. More info due out next week)

Personally, I am probably going to end up with the P35G V2 for the storage flexibility (Provided the 860M is verified to be a Maxwell architecture GPU). If the Asus NX500 surprises me by not requiring proprietary drives / having an 860M I may jump to that for the improved portability / build quality. If the NX500 and the P35G V2 don't pan out for me, I'll probably default to the P34G V2. I was avoiding the Lenovo as there have been rumors of hardware-level security issues, but it appears they may have been false.


Report of issues:
Spy agencies ban Lenovo PCs on security concerns

Lenovo refuting claim:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...HQ5ldK5XlFPwPpG-05jCoXw&bvm=bv.63934634,d.cWc

Australia Department Of Defence Claiming the Report Was Factually Incorrect:
Defence News and Media » Media articles in The Australian Financial Review, 27 and 29 July 2013

CIO Article regarding the FUD
False Lenovo Security Report Only Strengthens World's Top PC Maker - CIO.com
IT Business Edge Article regarding the FUD
FUD Attack Against Lenovo May Actually Showcase Security Advantage

 

Nope.. 14" 870M 3200x1800 igzo panel, 4.4lb

 

no , no apple!, asus and msi are good companies with great hardware at a reasonable price.

the reason ive been stuck with dell is because of warranties, my first desktop was a dell and I had many issues, many many years ago. then I got an xps m1530 and got a 5 year warranty, found a loophole and extended it another 5 years. ive had the m1530 repaired about 17 times, then replaced with an studio xps 1645 because it had just all died. the 1645 was repaired about 13 times with damages done from the depot and replaced 4 times. then they replaced it with the xps l521x, they replaced it 3 times and repaired that 5 times and had 4 on site techs come change parts, then they told me that they had revoked my warranty and goodbye... with laptop that faulty and buggy, bad wifi,heat issues, no decent air flow or coolant, lots of throttling..

The reason I had went with the m1530 many years ago was to run my autocad and mastercam software for machining,,. this laptop has trouble rendering without overheating.

I am not alone, google xps 15 problems, dell problems, you shall see..

 

then Google HP, Asus, MSI, TOSHIBA AND YOU SHALL SEE!!!!

 

In any case, make sure the laptop you decide to go with foes not have a white list of components.. that way you can upgrade parts as you please, like ram,wifi,etc

 

Yes, but it's not offered in Europe

 

How would we know a possible refresh? Would they announce it months before? Or just suddenly release it? I dont know that much of Dell

 

Question since broadwell is scheduled for Q4 which if I am not mistaken begins oct 1 does that mean the new processors will be available in some pc’s notebooks on that date? Or does that mean processors will appear later about 1 month (before the holiday shopping season?)

I think you are correct though this present generation XPS 15 (Haswell) made its debut last Sep or Oct 2013 correct? Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, and the Haswell processors were released last June if I am not mistaken?

From what I have read most laptops and pcs won’t really start to see them until 2015 however, I figure some will be ready for the Holiday season. Like the ones you order online or call from manufactures such as Dell, HP, Asus, Apple etc. I guess we won’t see many broadwell laptops in stores (staples best buy, etc.) until 2015.

And besides a Haswell processor refresh is just beginning now (or early may) so I figure they have to let these new Haswell processors filter out for some time.

Of course they may decide to delay Broadwell altogether until Jan 2015 who knows.

As far as the Next Dell XPS 15 besides from Broadwell and Maxwell what other possible changes/upgrades might there be? 4K screen? From what I have seen there will several notebooks with 4K screens by the time it comes out. How about USB 3.1? Thunderbolt port/thunderbolt 2 port? (from what I read that may appear in the next Dell precision workstations and I assume that means the Dell notebooks workstations also.

upgraded SSD options, and if the Next Dell XPS 15 comes out in 2015 it probably should have DDR4 memory?

All that being said, I personally I want to see a 17 inch version (with that screen resolution or higher) I know I know not going to happen (at least from Dell) and the one thing besides the above that I would want is a dual hard drive configuration meaning a 500GB 72RPM drive (or more) and a SSD. I believe the XPS 15 just has the one SSD configuration.

 

The current XPS15 already offers 2 options:
- One with only a 512GB SSD, but with a very large 91Whr battery (8hrs)
- One with a SSD and HDD bay, but with the smaller 61Whr battery (4-5hrs)

To answer your other questions:
What can be upgraded?
Currently they use mSATA, they could upgrade to PCIe SSDs (which are faster, but doesnt come in more then 512GB+ capacity)
DDR4 is only for skylake, not broadwell (but thats not worth it anyway, will be much more expensive without seeing any improvement, just interesting for servers due to the lower voltage they run on)
Maxwell GPU (VERY BIG difference in performance)
Broadwell (probably holidays 2014 when available widely)
They could use a 4K screen, but 1800p is already fine to me

So a september/october release would be quite stupid (since they would miss Broadwell which launches few weeks/months later)
So yeah, its gonna be at best December 2014, but probably 2015


They cant realy update that much, since it is already close to perfection, but I just need more GPU performance thats the reason I didnt bought it (yet)
Maybe improve cooling, thats something that could be done too.

I would love to see a 14'' version

 

Thanks for the response

 

Can't believe there is no announcement on these yet... I would think the XPS 15 would at least come with an 850m 2GB GDDR5 in it's next iteration.

Who in their right mind would now buy an XPS 15, when the GPU is so outdated vs other current laptops?

 

Some more information?

 

Dell is clearly waiting for Intel's new Broadwell CPUs to come out early next year...

 

I hope they didn't change the new model too much (ideally, just CPU and GPU), so that in a few year's time I could just replace the motherboard of my current 2013 system with the one of the 2015 version and extend its life by a couple of years.

Would something like that be remotely possible? Is there a similar precedent in Dell?

 

Not exactly. You might have been able to do that on some of the minor-revision Latitudes, where sometimes the new model wasn't a chassis change, just a feature change, so the new motherboard might have fitted.

However, with a system like this, if they're waiting for Broadwell then it will be a full refresh, so expect a different chassis and motherboard layout. Personally, I don't think we'll see a refresh of the XPS15 til later next year. If there was one due soon, I'm sure we'd have heard about it like we have the XPS13 refresh.

 

basskaryaar started a thread recently pointing to a teaser site which references both the XPS 13 and XPS 15 on the right hand side. While that's not a guarantee that there's a new XPS 15 coming, I wouldn't be surprised if we hear more about both models at CES 2015.

 

That's just links to buy the current gen models. The refreshed XPS13 is known about, and will be coming out soon when Broadwell is available. I would expect to see the refreshed XPS15 a while after that.

 

Yeah to me that looks like a teaser page for a new XPS 12 that uses Core M in an ultra-slim body.

XPS 13/15 lines will be refresehed with proper broadwell processors and maxwell chips in 2015. There's no way that's not going to happen.

The only thing up for debate is whether or not they'll introduce a new design for those refreshes. I'm betting no, but I do hope they at least correct the coil whine issue.

 

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Edit: oops sorry, hadn't noticed it had already been posted

 

Found an article that explains the lack of xps 15

update http://www.pcworld.com/article/2865...els-skylake-chips-in-second-half-of-year.html

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I'd look elsewhere - I purchased the Dell XPS 15 last year when that model first came out because I was blown away with it (on paper); have been nothing but disappointed with it ever since & find myself using my 5 year old laptop that I thought I was replacing 80% of the time instead.

I'd recommend looking for a different brand.

 

Does anyone know if Dell plan to launch the XPS 15 in the style of the new XPS 13 anytime soon? Frustrating.