XPS 17 (L702x) 1080p screen is matte?

So, I'm changing my question because I realize I wasn't reading clearly on the Dell site.

The 1080p non-3D screen in the Dell XPS 17 is matte, not glossy, that is correct?

I was thinking of getting this laptop but I saw my friend's new L702x with 1080p matte screen and it looks very grainy, much worse than the matte screen on the HP dv7t, which was the best screen I've ever seen in my life (next to the glossy 1080p screen on the L502x).

So...my question is...does anyone else notice or care about this graininess? I found it very annoying when I test-drived my friend's L702x. Is the 3D screen glossy? Should I get that instead?

 

I have the grainy L702x screen and am loving it to bits. Colors are so damn sharp and crisp...

Gamin' it up with Assassin's Creed: Revelations never looked so nice at 1080p with 4x multisampling. Wowza

 

The colors were great, yeah, I noticed that. But honestly the screen looked like a picture on Photoshop after applying the grain-filter.

Hmm...

 

It's only really noticeable when you're staring closely at areas of solid white. I didn't really consider it much of a big deal at all. I rather liked the matte screen and got comments about how much more people liked the screen than my old glossy dv8t (also 1080p and a nice screen).

 

Users don't all like the same things. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple.

 

Yeah, that's what I noticed. It was strongest on the white.

 

I'm aware of that. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't imagining it or I have bad eyes or something. I know my eyes are too sensitive, that's why I can't have 1080p on a 15-inch because the text is too small. And I thought finally I had found a PC with a good screen, high resolution, great colors, good sound, etc. and I find the screen to be grainy...it's just so frustrating...I'm thinking of giving up and just sticking with the Mac.

 

Hahaha, a bloody Mac of all things? Just because the matte? lol
The rest of the color quality more than makes up for it. It's quite a rig, I gotta say.

 

The color was impressive. I wish my eyes weren't so sensitive to the weird "graininess", but they are. Oh well, at least I'm not crazy.

But I still want to know if the 3D-enabled screen is glossy? If it is, I think I might end up getting this computer after all.

The glossy 1080p screen on the L502x is excellent. If the screen on the L702x was the same, just bigger, that would be so perfect...

 

I am liking it. It reminds me a bit of my monitor at work, and you do notice the crispness a bit at first, but I really love it. I think the versatility of the matte screen more than makes up for those few times you notice the graininess.

Think of it this way: a glossy screen may look better (all else being equal) in a few situations, but whenever you have a well lit room, or direct light coming from any angle toward the screen, you have to put up with reflections and glare. I'd much rather have the matte.

 

3d screen is glossy but you lose out on optimus (may or may not be a good thing depending on what your opinion is) so battery life will be gimped, you lose the intel features like WiDi and quicksync

I wanted the laptop to be mobile, with optimus I get around 6 hours of battery life on a medium power profile so I wouldn't have bought the 3d version (can't get a custom lid design with the 3d version aswell iirc... at least I couldn't in march!)

at the time I bought this laptop there were only 2 options, the 1080p 3D glossy display or 1600*900 glossy display. I bought the 900p screen and wasn't too impressed so ended up buying the screen listed in my sig off Scott RC Tek on these forums, best purchase I could have made and it's damn easy to replace the screen.

oh, and I don't like matt screens either - the grain gets on my nerves and ends up ruining whites. I prefer the improved clarity, colours and deeper blacks from a glossy screen, even if I have to put up with reflections on a bright day

edit - oh, and you mentioned you liked the 1080p glossy screen on the l502x, the B173HW01 v.4 screen is basically the 17inch version of that

 

I've been putting up with the graininess on my new L702X since I got it Wednesday. A tech is coming out today to replace it with a new screen, but I'm probably getting the same one, so I will be returning the unit.

The color quality may be good, but who cares when text is so distorted by the anti-glare coating that it makes it hard to read? I literally had a headache last night after trying to use the laptop.

It's not "matte". My LCDs at work are "matte", and they're crystal clear with no distortion and no glare. They're also *extremely cheap*. It's absurd to spend this much money on a high-end laptop that has such a terrible display.

 

Small text is not an issue at all. Here's my solution that worked perfectly: I set the default browser zoom in Chrome to 120%. Done. Everything is perfectly readable and absolutely no loss in quality, at this zoom it's perfect for me. I have an XPS 15 with glossy 1080p display (it's superior to the one on the L702) and it's absolutely stunning, the colors are just

 

When on a white screen, for example google, the grainy screen really annoys me but whilst on a darker screen, for example gaming It looks great. overall i like the screen it's just that it can be a little annoying but the colours are good.

 

I have no distortion with text or anything else, there is no glare either.

 

Hi, everyone. I recently received my XPS 17, and it has the ChiMei AG screen 1080p. At first, I didn't notice, but I have an HP2511x monitor and a Dell XPS 1640 (720p WLED) which are both calibrated to similar color tone, and noticed that the default color tone on my XPS 17 1080p has a bias towards a green tint, most noticeable when comparing the whites on all the screens. Is this a common issue? I tried to calibrate using Windows and NVIDIA, I was able to get it down to an acceptable tone but not perfect, but something I can live with. The only problem is that I don't know how to get it to stick. Everytime I restart the computer, it goes back to the default setting/aka green tint. Does anyone have a direct solution to get my settings to stick, whether it is via Windows calibration or NVIDIA? Thanks!

 

You get past the graininess. Plus, matte is safer for your eyes.

 

Is the graininess you guys are referring to the same as the 'green tint' that I'm seeing? I actually don't see any grainy texture on my ChiMei screen, it's mainly what appears to be green oversaturation that can be acceptably adjusted (though not completely) via color calibration. And I actually have no idea how to make this calibration stay after each restart. I basically have to redo it each time. Thanks.

 

What i did to keep the color settings after a reboot is to disable through msconfig the file igfxpers.exe from starting with windows. That is if you have the non-3d configuration and it has to do with the onboard intel graphics card getting in the way with your color settings. I haven't noticed any side effects after disabling it and my Windows Color Calibration settings stay intact after reboot

 

awesome, I'll give it a try. THANKS! =)

is this a systemic issue with most XPS 17s non-3D matte screens? I saw a very short thread on Dell.com of others complaining about the green tint, either it is a pervasive issue or others have not noticed it or perceived it.

(I ask b/c my old XPS 1640 came with a perfect WLED backlight and all the colors are rendered extremely well without my having to ever calibrate anything.)

 

my AG FHD for example has a blueish tint so it seems as the chimei has a pretty poor factory calibration. Using windows color calibration i managed to correct that to a certain extent. I also imported already calibrated .icc profiles i found in reviews but they didn't work for me.

 

I am using this (use 'Save As', to download it) color profile and it looks just great to me. The bluish tint is calibrated correctly.

To use this profile do the following steps:

1. Install it.
2. Open 'Color Management'
3. Open 'Advanced' tab and click on 'Change system defaults' and new window will appear.
4. Click on 'Add' button and select the profile you want to use. In this case it's gonna be: "Monitor_07.04.2011_1"
5. Now select it in 'ICC Profiles' list and click on 'Set as default profile' button.

Enjoy

 

Thank you, i'll give it try and let you know

 

I think this color profile is better for those with AG screens.

- Spyder2express.icm

 

i have tried the Spyder2express.icm in the past after i found it somewhere in the xps forum but it is definitely making colors too yellow for me. Same goes for the profile suggested by letmeknov.
I'm starting to think that i'm getting used to the blue tint my chimei has and any other profile seems wrong to me (even though they may be perfectly correct).

Thank you for your help anyway.

 

Oh, perhaps you are right. I didn't see that elaesar mentioned about Anti-Glare screen. My screen is glossy, LGD02C5.

 

I noticed you have the 3D version, is it just the 3D folks who get the glossy screen? and non-3D ones are matte?

I'm debating whether to have my screen switched for the LG b/c I have a ChiMei right now and it seems there's talk about its drawbacks. However, there's no actual way to request from Dell which model of screen I get right? So even if they come and replace, I might still get a similar ChiMei AG screen? Thanks.

 

I had exactly the same feeling when I tried the calibrated profile at first time, but after a while I got used to 'new' look of my screen and now I really can't stand the default color profile, because of too much bluish tint. So, maybe it's a matter of time.

 

Yes, as far as I know only 3D model have glossy screen, while the rest have matte. I think the best way is to contact directly to Dell and ask them, because I don't have a clue about replacement of the screen.

 

I absolutely hate matte screens. When the engineer upgraded my 900p gloss screen with 1080p matte screen, I was horrified by the results that I had the engineer reinstall my old 900p screen.

When I saw my 1080p matte screen, all the colours were washed out and the screen was unnecessarily bright (even after adjusting the brightness.) Also, the screen was so grainy and felt absolutely cheap and plastic. The overall result was horrible that 1080p matte was not a benefit, but a major drawback.

When viewing HD content like pictures and movies, always go for gloss. You can definately see the true sharpness, true colours and smoothness and contrast that everything looks better on the 900p gloss than a 1080p matte. I honestly regret listening to all the videophiles on how 1080p matte is better in everyway than 900p gloss.

As for anti glare, who cares. Just close the curtains or turn the lights off if reflection of the gloss bothers you, not that it really does for most people.

As for the whole 1080p vs 900p debate, as far as I'm concerned, it is all bullshi*, especially for 17 inch laptop. Trust me, my eyes are excellent and honestly, I did not see any difference between 900p and 1080p, no difference whatsoever in terms of screen quality, except for everything being so small that if you read for too long, there is a chance your eyes will strain.

I honestly believe that anyone who can claim that they can see a difference between 900p and 1080p on a 17 inch laptop screen must have obsessive compulsive disorder in regards to screen resolution or must generally say 900p is so awful that it makes them feel better in regards to 1080p.

Honestly, most eye care specialists and opticians will tell you that no visible difference can be seen to the human eye when you trying to see a difference in screen resolutions between 900p and 1080p on 17 inch. Maybe for bigger screen a difference can clearly be seen, but certainly not for a 17 inch screen.

Now that I have finished my rant, and man does it feel good, I will conclude by saying that gloss is better than matte and that 1080p is overated.

 

Some matte screens have no grain at all. The Sony VAIO SE with the Orangegate IPS screen has zero grain, yet it also reflects no glare. Why doesn't everybody use that type of antiglare? Why do most manufacturers insist on using the nasty grainy panels? Yes it's true, most users don't care. But most users also don't care about poor color or bad viewing angles. What irks me is when enthusiasts and geeks defend the grainy antiglare and say things like "you get used to it".