XPS M1530, Temperatures?

Hello,
I have now had my Dell XPS M1530 since May and it has been fantastic and i havn't had a single problem or issue with it at all, which is one reason why i havn't been on since May.

Well anyway i have just started a gaming on it, just World of Warcraft and Internet usage and a few other programs in the background. I thought i would just confirm these temperatures by other M1530 users so i know they are normal.

These are obviously under load being i am running WoW on full at 1440x900

CPU: 67
GPU: 74
HDD: 44

 

I'm a Vostro 1500 and 1700 owner. I can tell you those temps look fine especially under load. When they start getting into the 80's that's when you should be concerned. If you have an extended warranty I would not worry a bit.

 

Thank you, this is the first time i have test CPU and GPU under load, and i'm glad to know the cooling it enough. And when the GPU just hit 77, the fan kicked up a setting to bring it back down to 74.

 

If you want lower temps you could try a laptop cooler or something to raise it to get more air underneath. Also you could try a program similar to I8kfanGUI which forces the fan on. I always keep mine on slow my CPU temps average around 39c and my GPU around 47c. My hard drive is usually in the 35c range.

I'm not sure if I8kfanGUI is compatible with your XPS.

 

Well i do have the 9cell battery which does prop it up quite a lot increasing airflow. I do also have an Antec Notebook Cooler which i can use, its just more noise, power and raises it to a point where it is slightly awkward to type, i used it for my Asus F3Ja last year when that was getting hot during gaming.

 

Consider Undervolting the CPU, I cannot stress enough how powerfull that trick is in terms of temps lowering, battery life increasing and overall improvement.

 

Wraith, my xps m1530 runs at:

GPU: 60C idle 84 under stress

and my cpu's go up to 76 under stress

don't worry your fine.

 

Hi koer!!!!!!

my highest temp was 70 playing COD4 all maxed out.

Pretty swizzle.

bios A08

I reinstalled a fresh copy of windows vista. And the issue i was experiencing before is gone (screen lag)

 

Hey Crieg

yeah i know, its the combination of the 7200 rpm HD and the high frequency processor that contribute to my computer's temperature.

im running the A09 BIOS

 

As long as the CPU stays below 75C and the GPU below 85C, you`re good.

 

Is there a I8kfanGUI or a fan control software for the 1530?

 

whats a program you suggest to turn on the fans? i downloed that i8kfangui program, and it shows the temperatures, however the fan options dont work for my laptop, unless i dont have 2 fans.

 

this might help


Danger zone (high) temperatures are pretty standard due to manufactures low-level specifications of usage. Danger temps are set to downclock the component such as the CPU or GPU in order to cool the component down enough to prevent overheating

Here are temperatures for specific components when they enter the danger zone.:

CPU danger temperature is around 70C
GPU danger temperature is around 90-95C
HDD danger temperature is around 60-65C

Threshold temperatures are also pretty standard once again due to the reasons specified under the danger zone temperatures. These temperatures are the most dangerous to a system, in which permanent hardware damage can be incurred if the user does not remedy the heat issue during which time the user is experiencing temperatures within the danger zone. Systems that have a component that reaches threshold temperatures will usually crash or shutdown when the temperature peaks.

CPU threshold temperature is around 90-100C
GPU threshold temperature is around 100-105C
HDD threshold temperature is varied, but above 65C is bad

Safe temperatures are temperatures are basically any temperature below the danger zone temperatures. Even a 5C-10C difference is ok as long as it stays below the danger zone temperatures.

 

when i played DMC4 / Assassin Creed , my gpu according to hwmoniter, it can hit max of 83.. so u r fine compared to me

today i decided to try undervolting my t8300
12.0 x is at 0.9625V (any lower...gives me an error in orthos =( ) then as it goes up the latter to 6.0 x, i just alternate between 0.9625 and 0.9750..
should i just adjust from 6.0 x to 12.0 x all to 0.9625?? or is that a bad idea to set all the speed to the same voltage?

does anyone recommend leaving SuperLFM and IDA enable or not within RightMark??? i have superlfm on but not IDA =/ (i didnt change the volt of superlfm cause guide said not to =P )

uh i notice my core temp. didnt really changed much.. =/ seems same to me but whatever .... =)

 

For maximum effect, you want to undervolt all the multipliers individually. my 9300 runs happily with .95 volts up to the 12x multiplier. For 12x, I have to bump to .9875. As a result, I force the cpu to run at the 11x multiplier all the time. It will jump to 12x when plugged in or in performance mode. I can get nearly 4 hours of life out of my system with the six cell battery. To restrict multipliers, simply select performance on demand in RMClock, and check only the p-states that you want to switch between.

For undervolt testing, you can either use the Power Saver or Performance on demand profiles and then simply select only one p-state to use. Reduce voltage, check with orthos, and then move on to the next multiplier.

 

are u saying u have .95 from 6.0 all the way to 12.0 ? meaning all r at .95 none r different?!

 

.95 until 11x, 12 and 13x are .9875

I didn't just set them all that low arbitrarily, I used the power saving profile to check each multiplier separately for stability. Since the 11x multiplier is still stable at .95 volts, I see no reason to clock down to any of the lower multipliers as there is no power savings. The voltages will vary from CPU to CPU. My older Pentium M 2Ghz CPU has to have the voltage scale with the multipliers. I was still able to knock a good bit off but each multiplier had a different voltage. The two C2D processors I've undervolted had similar characteristics. They will run at the lowest available voltage even on higher multipliers. You will eventually find a multiplier that requires more voltage though.

 

thanks for the reply, i set my setting as from SuperFLM to 11x at 0.9250V

then 12x at 0.9625
IDA crashes me when at 0.9625 =( (atm disabled)

0.9250V is the lowest i can go and 1.2125V is the highest..

is IDA important? should i try n get the proper undervolt n enable it? lol

 

Basically anything written above is wrong.

Here's the most basic information about semiconductor specifically processor degradation you can find:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3251&p=5
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3251&p=6

Once you understand that it's a continuous process, there clearly can't be a single temperature which is considered safe and another not. Unless you do a field study ...

Therefore I'd like to stay at facts instead of guessing by some random people. Read intel processor specification for Core CPU:
http://download.intel.com/design/mobile/datashts/31674505.pdf
p 77, chapter 5 "Thermal Specifications and Design Considerations", table 19.

You'll find out that intel guarantees that you cpu works fine if kept between these operating ranges:
Merom 65nm CPU : 0° - 100°C
Penryn 45nm CPU : 0° - 105°C
Otherwise you get a replacement.

It's also wrong that cpu/system crashes when reaching those temps. Thermal Management kicks in an reduces VID/FID and maybe introduces additional throttel as described in TM1, TM2. It recovers to full speed once temps are below T_Junction max again.

Thermal management for GPU is slightly different: Depending on the driver version it may be stuck at lower clocks, once thermal management kicks in.

I'd also like to stay at facts if it comes to harddrives. Google did statistics about hard drive failure rates from a population of >100,000 drives:

http://research.google.com/archive/disk_failures.pdf

You'll find the exact numbers in the google document.

One more note: The nVidia G84M, G86M failures are not related to degradation and specifically not related to operating at high temps. Those are related to different extensions of die/packaging material during temp changes.

Hardly anybody is able to know much about degradation due to temps here. But if you're a gamer: Get a notebook cooler/stand and do undervolting. Regardless of the temps you measure and regardless of the notebook you have. Simple as that.

 

Just raise the voltage for any multipliers that are unstable, then you're all set. The idea is to find the lowest voltage that still allows the CPU to run stable at any given multiplier. Using RMClock, you can determine exactly which multiplier is used and then find the voltage using orthos or something similar.

 

Undervolting does inc. battery life and lowers temps, but what about CPU's power? would it still be at high performance ?

 

i believe cpu goes into a higher performance when needed ...if u r speakin bout gpu, seems fine to me game works like i expect, smooth n sailing =)

 

The performance still is normal if you undervolt. Its like Penryn, just saving power, but able to offer just as much if not more performance.

 

My xps m1530 cpu is getting up to 80c and the gpu is getting up to 84c when gaming. Is that ok or should I be concerned?

 

bump bump...