XPS15 9560 Kaby Lake Product Page.....

Swapped some numbers from the XPS13 page and found this:

http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/accessories/productdetails/xps-15-9560-laptop

Says GTX1050 with 4gb so I'm assuming Ti?

 

Already offline for me, I hope you made a screen cap?

 

It's up again.

 

Eh, I guess it's region locked. Can't access it from Germany.

 

Well I have just replied to my ticket with Dell requesting I am placed on backorder to avoid further delays to replace my 9550 with a 9560 as the backlight issue has never been fixed.

 

They still advertise 40Gbps, I wonder if the 9560 is really connected with x4 pcie

 

Isn't this dependent on the CPU type? I thought quad core is needed to get x4 PCIe on the SSD.

John

 

The U-CPUs only have 12 pcie lanes the HQ-CPUs have 16.
I don't exactly know how many connections the default stuff needs, South Bridge, USB3 Controller and all that.
So I guess it's feasible that there might not be enough lanes for the full Thunderbolt 3 speed,
but then they should not advertise it as such.

In my XPS 15 9550 it looks like the GPU takes up 8 lanes, the Wifi Chip takes two lanes, but uses just one.
My 951 SSD is not listed in the pcie port list, but if we assume it uses 4 lanes there are indeed only 2 left for TB3 :/

 

9560 SPECS SUMMARY
Appears to be same box as 9550

latest 7th Gen Intel® Quad Core
optional 4GB GeForce® GTX 1050 graphics card
Supports up to 32GBi of memory with a bandwidth of 2133MHz
Expandable storage up to 1TBi in your choice of standard hard drive or optional solid state drive (SSDs), available in faster PCIe versions, The Killer 1535 Wireless

Ports
1. SD card slot | 2. USB 3.0 with PowerShare | 3. Battery gauge button and indicator | 4. Kensington lock slot | 5. AC power | 6. HDMI |7. Thunderbolt™ 3 supporting: Power in/charging, PowerShare, Thunderbolt 3 (40Gbps bi-directional), USB 3.1 Gen 2 (10Gbps), Native DisplayPort 1.2 video output, VGA, HDMI, Ethernet and USB-A via Dell Adapter (sold separately) | 8. Headset jack

Display
Full HD and 3 million more than the MacBook Pro, you can edit images with pinpoint accuracy without worrying about blurriness or jagged lines.

Industry-leading color: The XPS 15 is the only laptop with 100% Adobe RGB color, covering a wider color gamut and producing shades of color outside conventional panels so you can see more of what you see in real life. And with over 1 billion colors, images appear smoother and color gradients are amazingly lifelike with more depth and dimension. Included is Dell PremierColor software, which automatically remaps content not already in Adobe RGB format for onscreen colors that appear amazingly accurate and true to life.

Easy collaboration: See your screen from nearly every angle with an IGZO IPS panel, providing a wide viewing angle of up to 170°.

Brighten your day: With 350 nit brightness, it’s brighter than a typical laptop. (but less than the 400 nit of the old 9550)

Touch friendly: Tap, swipe and pinch your way around the screen. The optional touch display lets you interact naturally with your technology.

Source http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/accessories/productdetails/xps-15-9560-laptop

 

9560 looks to be a small update and looks identical to the 9550, noting:

- The CPU will consume a bit less power
- The GPU is a step up and has more VRAM
- The 4k screen seems to be different (350 nit)

I would like to have someone else beta test the thermals of the nvidia 1050 in this small box before upgrading.

If the 4k screen flickering is solved, coil whine reduced, or you need a bit more GPU power, the 9560 will be a good upgrade. Otherwise, there is not much compelling over the 9550.

 

and it looks like the pulled it down after detecting our traffic

 

I may upgrade in the summer when recertified units start hitting the market.

The only meaningful upgrade for me would be a nicer keyboard, or a brighter display. I don't very much care about the graphics card.

 

Seems like they've fixed the flickering with the new BIOS (1.2.18).

 

Some of the teams at Dell need to step up their game...

 

Words I never expected to hear. But yes you are right (so far)

 

damn! Loving my XPS, but I am jealous of the 1050...

 

Should we take it to mean that Dell has enough sway to receive 4GB 1050's, or that it's a typo and they actually meant the 1050ti?

 

Not sure. That's the part I found confusing. http://www.notebookcheck.net/XPS-15...print-scanner-and-Windows-Hello.188069.0.html

Either way, it's about twice as fast as the 960m.

 

Assuming Dell does not have to downclock the 1050 for thermals (at release or in some subsequent "special" update after laptops begin melting down)...

 

I want to know how many PCIE ports it gets with the xtra large battery? Details like that matter the most to me. I still for the life of me don't know why Dell uses the same keyboard for the XPS 13 and the 15. There is so much wasted space in the 15. Make a wider keyboard.

 

The number of PCIe lanes provided by the CPU package is a constraint. Has this been increased with Kaby Lake?

I much prefer the current keyboard to a crowded one with a numpad. The one improvement in keyboard layout I would like is a column of navigation keys up the right side.

I will also be interested to find out whether the Thunderbolt implementation has become more power efficient in this update. One gripe I have with my Precision 5510 is that plugging anything (even a simple dongle not connected to anything) into the USB C port results in an increase in power drain of about 3W and the fans wake up.

John

 

Not twice as fast. 50% faster.

When you formerly had 30fps in a game, you'll now have 45fps. If it were twice as fast, it would have been 60fps.

Still nice improvement.

 

i wonder if it would be possible to put the motherboard from the 9560 model into our 9550 model as there doesnt seem to be any change physically to the laptop

 

You will wonder no more when someone gets one opened up and takes a picture. Until then only Dell knows.

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Well the chassis looks the same but maybe there were minor physical changes which are difficult to detect right now (e.g. ports have moved around a bit). Who knows.

A 9550 power brick or battery pack may or may not be compatable.

The 9560 4k screen is less bright per specs noted above so likely a different unit. Not sure how easy a 9550 screen would be to get connected and working.

Your RAM and SSD should be fine.

 

Given that there is a business version of this notebook I would consider it extremely probable that the PSU will not be changed and quite probable that the battery won't change unless there are differences in the notebook dimensions. Business customers prefer notebooks where the same spares can be used for more than one generation of notebook as it simplifies the inventory.

John

 

can always count on you to comment with a sharp and to the point statement GoNzO lol i think the last laptop with a very similar layout over 2 models was the dell l501x and dell l502x and both used similar parts so it would be nice if it was only a matter of a motherboard swap, in failing that i dont see what would really draw me towards buying the new model apart from the updated gpu

 

Dell Readies the New XPS 15 9560. It will be a super efficient and very fast with one of the new Intel Kaby Lake CPU; Core i3-7100HQ, Core i5-7300HQ, Core i7-7700HQ and with the newest Nvidia Pascal 1050M GPU.

I expect little under 10.000 default 3DMark 11 Score and with Overclocking, it will reach or even exceed that point. By Comparsion, the current XPS or Inspiron with I7-6700HQ and 960M makes just under 6000 points and with overclocking 6700.

It will come with Windows 10, but hopefully with little workaround Windows 7 will be also possible.

 

I'm merging this with the existing thread about this notebook.

John

 

Sounds a bit too much. It's more like 5500 points maximum for the 960m (see also comparison chart on notebookcheck, which includes the current XPS). I also doubt there is much room for overclocking with the thin chassis.

I wouldn't expect too much for the 1050 gtx either. Thing is, rumors suggest there is a non-Ti in the XPS. And the non-Ti has approximately 8.500 points in 3DMark11. Only the Ti is said to reach a 10.000 score.

 

See the score in my Signature for 960M. It depends greatly if the laptop runs with single channel slow RAM or fast dual channel. The 8500 points also decent for this new laptop actually, but hopefully we will get something stronger according to my prediction.

 

Dear all,
great thread.
I am planning on getting a new notebook and am strongly considering the new XPS.
I assume it is too early to tell, but does someone know weather a linux installation with a KVM, running Windows for gaming, would be possible? At least from a hardware perspective.
To me this thread seemed like one of the only right places to ask.
Cheers,
TG

 

Do a seach on NBR threads for the last generation 9550 to see how people have used Linux for some clues on where to find drivers, how to optimize, potential issues. There are plenty of comments.

The 9560 will be different but that is a good start

 

The prospects for Linux compatibility are good because there is likely to be a business version (Precision 5520?) which will be Linux compatible (currently the Precision 5510 is the equivalent of the XPS15 9550).

John

 

Will the GPU be directly attached to the display and outputs? Or should we expect Optimus? How did the 9550 handle this?

Either way, I'm fluent in the 20 different ways to get Optimus working with Linux. Don't use Bumblebee though, it doesn't allow hardware decoding.

 

Most likely Optimus. The 9550 had Optimus. And Dell like to talk about the battery life of the XPS 15.

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Humm, may have to upgrade this year. I'll probably wait until there are a few reviews on it though.

 

I'd like the following:

• A mux and BIOS option to toggle between integrated/dedicated/Optimus.
• The 1050 is wired directly to everything since it's not a mobile variant. But, I'm curious as to how this will all work.
• An MXM slot instead of just a new die surrounded by GDDR5.

 

None of that is going to happen in an XPS

 

+1

 

So the GPU is still up in the air (1050 vs 1050Ti).

Do we know if it will be an actual windows hello camera, or windows hello via fingerprint? If its camera thats a pretty hefty upgrade in camera specs, AFAIK.

 

I bet fingerprint and I can't see them adding a ti GPU either

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Yeah fingerprint and 1050 non-Ti is my expectation. I have a desktop with a 970 in it, so I've got gaming covered.

 

Is the TI too far out of thermal budget?

 

Even if it wasn't they wouldn't spend the money on it.

 

I have a feeling that even the base 1050 will throttle in there unless they've ramped up the fans considerably or are using copper as opposed to the aluminium on the 9550.

 

I'm skeptical that a 130W AC adapter will be enough if the 1050 is kept at 75W.

 

They wouldn't have it at it's rated wattage, they would cripple it to 45w as the heatsink couldn't take any more. Or more likely being Dell, tell everyone it's a 75w GPU that then throttles within 5 seconds!

 

Dell probably needs to rethink their tick-tock chassis schedule.