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    dell xps and bf3 frames?

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by tvdang7, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. tvdang7

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    Anyone comment on their frames with the bf3 beta? im 80% downloaded.
     
  2. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Uhh Battlefield 3's requirements on ultra are pretty high. People were complaining with a GTX 580 on 1080p ultra couldn't get above 70-80 fps on the closed beta, and the retail release is supposed to add more.

    The GT540M benchmarks worse than a desktop GT240..
     
  3. matw01

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    I'm getting between 30-35fps on medium at 1366x768 on xps 15 with i7 2630qm and 2gb gt540m
     
  4. madmattd

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    There's a lot of debate as to whether BF3's "ultra" settings are even properly functional. Wait and see on that front, but the XPS won't really be able to play on ultra, that much is sure. It's not meant to.

    I won't get into how 80fps is more than enough...but I agree a 580 ought to do better.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Standard settings picked by the game and in 1600*900. Pretty decent. I'll go more in details on it and tweak it tonight.
     
  6. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    The problem wasn't 80 FPS but that the retail version will add alot more "stuff" and that 80 might drop even lower.

    I don't understand why EA had such a high hardware requirement for BF3, most people's hardware is not going to play it above medium.

    Owning a GTX 580, I don't want to see any numbers below 100 (and I almost never do for the games I play, TF2 is @ 299 fps average 1080p max settings, SC2 plays ultra with no sweat).
     
  7. concat

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    100 fps on a 60Hz screen? What's the point?
     
  8. tvdang7

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    k i finally got to playing it and it defaulted to 1080p mostly high and medium..........def very laggy with those settings like 20 frames. backed it off to medium and 720p and its getting better maybe 30 frames or so. Going to try low now.
     
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    A couple of friends have dwnlded it and they say its noting special so i cant be asked tbh. Never liked battlefield 2.
     
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    autodetected me to 1080p with medium settings... ran OK, but ir want high graphics so dropped it to 720p, put effects and environment details (can't remember the actual name of the setting) to high, fsaa off and post process aa on high to smooth things out

    runs around the 30fps+ mark, doesn't seem to drop below - shame VSYNC doesn't work yet

    alternatively can put it at 900p with everything on medium and post process aa on medium, still looks and runs fine... oh and i just disabled motion blur as it's annoying o_O
     
  12. tvdang7

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    my computer freezes almost instantly now....... i think its an optimus problem since the computer is still working just the game locking up cuz i can pull up task manager to end the process to exit the game.
     
  13. Jon vMagic

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    updated to the new nvidia beta drivers? supposedly optimised for the beta... should have an optimus profile in there too... alternatively just find out what the bf3 exe file is and where it is then add that to a custom graphics profile that uses the "high performance nvidia gfx" by default
     
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    Done that. Not sure what else to make of this but it is very frustrating. im checking my temps when it freezes and it is not bad at all. 81 on cpu and 65 on gpu. so it is no overheating. bc2 ran just fine.
     
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    There are a ton of random crashes being reported about this game, it is highly likely your issue is similar. There's a reason for the "beta" label after all...
     
  16. concat

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    Is this on your L502x? Cause you sig says it's "on the way"
     
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    I have no real problem running the settings on ultra. Although my max screen res is 900p. I will look into getting FPS numbers later but I can say that is is pretty smooth.
     
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    I have everything on medium i have i5 2520 with geforece 540m dell l502x.

    I have a feeling its running on the integrated card. Is there a way i can see what gpu is being used? thank you
     
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    Well here is a screen shot with everything pretty much as high as it can go except a few things such as AA but overall it runs smoothly between 20-30FPS so while it isn't getting awesome numbers, on high it is holding its own and is very playable.
     

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    yes sorry im just really lazy to change it. All of my friends froze multiple times today. 1 desktop 2 laptops. so it must be the game not the computers.
     
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    Nice results :)

    I have 1 question .
    Whot program you use to recording this video ?
     
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    How are you guys getting temp readings and fps in game?
     
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    Today , I play on OC GPU setting : 800/1600 1100 ! :) And All work very good . No artefacts etc.
    My BF 3 settings is : 1600x 900 120 Hz Textures Quality High , others settings Medium , AA x4 . I have 42-57 fps , and in my opinion is the best settings for multiplayer FPS . I can't play for >40 fps . But its my opinion .

    GPU temp is 70-72 C .


    Edit .
    I forget .
    Dell xps 17 l702x
    CPU - 2630QM
    GPU - Gt555m OC
    Ram memory 6 gb .
     
  26. RedlanceEQ

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    I used FRAPS. Very handy. Only downpoint is that it reduces your FPS while recording.
     
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    You've got some nice FPS there but it's kinda weird that he gets 42-57 FPS (Atleast that's what he's saying) while I only get around 30-35 FPS. (30-35 FPS on the outside and around the 35-40 FPS on the inside of the Operation Metro map.) Is there a reason for this?

    I play on 1600x900 with everything on medium, AntiAliasing Post on low and Anisotropic Filter x4.
    And I am using the latest Nvidia beta driver that is optimised for BF3.
     
  28. Uruha

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    Anyone find that it is hard to OC the 550M with the latest driver? I have to stay at 675/970. Any higher and BF3 doesnt run or my driver crashes. It is no overheating. I have not tried OC'ing this high with the older drivers so I do not know if it is the new driver or just my luck when it comes to computer parts.
     
  29. Jon vMagic

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    20fps isn't playable for me in multiplyer, I'd want at least twice that - especially as caspain border is far more graphically taxing - hence I drop most things to medium/high rather than ultra ;-S

    considering people with desktop 460s aren't able to smoothly play the game on ultra I'm not too sure about this
     
  30. Pasacio

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    You OC Gpu for this settings : 800/1600/1100 ?
    I get outside around 32-45 , inside Metro i get 42- for some place 55 . Results around 45 . I use msi afterburner to see FPS , and maybe isn't true results :/
     
  31. Jon vMagic

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    agree with the OP, have got my card O/Cd, new beta drivers etc - I play on 720p with a mix of med and high and I don't get that fps

    something iffy :p
     
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    As the beta is now ending I thought I'd share the settings I'd settled on...

    BF3 was really annoying me, performance on the l702x (overclocked and with the new nvidia bf3 beta drivers) was a lot lower than what I'd expected until I messed about with the settings

    anyway - leaving on "auto" settings and dropping to 1600*900 actually works just fine but messing about a bit produced better results.

    Actually, a lot of the settings (in my eyes anyway) didn't make a noticeable difference, and the performance change from low-ultra @ 1600*900 isn't exactly amazing... in fact, on caspian border at 1080p on ultra settings you still manage to get about 10+ FPS (not exactly playable... but still) ... and that's virtually doubled if you disable FSAA and MLAA,

    anyway - I digress

    the single biggest performance hitter ended up being ambiant occlusion, and while it may give added soft/self shadowing to objects I just couldn't justify the 7-10fps-ish hit with SSAO or 15fps-ish hit with hbao, especially on a map like Caspian Border where there's a LOT going on at one time... I'm not going to take time out to lick the self-shadowed trees.

    basically I ended up playing at 720p, with all the detail-type settings on "high" FSAA off, post process AA on low to smooth out the lower res image slightly, texture filtering on x8 and ambiant occlusion off

    this basically meant the game not dropping below 40fps on metro or 30fps on caspian, even when things got busy. While some may want a higher resolution image I quite like the FPS payoff of a lower res, especially as it's being played with most settings on high.

    so yeah - my tip would be, for the multiplayer at least just disable ambiant occlusion for a massive fps boost.
     
  34. Uruha

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    Did you notice that you are unable to OC as high with the new drivers? I cannot OC my 550m over 675 without it failing when I play games.
    I did not try OCing this high before the beta drivers so I do not know if it is the drivers or just my graphics card.
     
  35. Jon vMagic

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    was using a gt555m, I've not exactly maxed the overclock either, 760/960 isn't huge compared to some people but it runs without issue so I don't see a reason to push it further and risk heat issues.

    the driver IS beta though - and was released quickly to just support the bf3 beta, official drivers released closer to the time + bf3 being optimised through day1 patches and suchlike should provide performance increases.
     
  36. Amberama

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    Hi all,

    I had a go with the BF3 Beta and was very happy with the way it looked and ran, except the crashes and freezes! I installed the Beta R285 drivers as recommended and the crashes stopped, but left me with a new problem....

    Now my L502x seems to be throttling to a crazy degree, not even keeping up with text as I type, peaking every 20 seconds or so with a lock up and a weerrhh of fans.

    Anyone else experienced this in general use with the new drivers? I accept they are only beta drivers, but I'm worried that I'll have to choose between a driver set that runs BF3 with stability but throttles everything else, and a system that runs everything else but crashes BF3. I would rather have both!

    Oh, it's an L502x i7 2630qm, 6gb, Geforce 540m.

    PS I liked BF3 very much, but can't help but think that the more graphical detail and texture that is added, the harder it is to focus on shooting the damned enemy!
     
  37. Jon vMagic

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    not had that issue with the l702x, but both the driver and the game were beta... the only thing I noticed was a slight increase in temps. Hopefully an official driver will be released which doesn't have that issue... did you do a clean driver install? Have you tried uninstalling the beta driver and reinstalling an official one to make sure that's the issue and not something else running in the background?
     
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    Hey everyone,

    Seeing as how a number of people with XPS L502Xs have gotten a good look at BF3 Beta, my question is, how much better can playing at 720p with the 1333x768 screen help the game vs. playing at 1600x900 with the 1080p screen. 10-15 FPS ? 20 ?
    Anyone with a settings list for possible smooth gameplay ?
    (Note: With the i7 2.2GHz & GT 525M)

    @Amberama, hope someone here can help out =)