dells must be getting out of the high end buisenss

i have noticed on the dell site that they have replaced their high end systems with alienware...what a laughter for such a large company...cannot dell make there own systems anymore...even the high end desktops are being replaced with alienware...its like chevy replacing there impala with a buick...bad move. lot of things dell had been doing lately that is non -consumer....sort of got to the point where i don,t look at the dells anymore...so many notebooks that are non- configurable....no amd,s cpu anymore, no doubt intels are a bit faster in the desktop., but amds would be a nice second choice,,,,and they are not that much slower. lot of bad decisions by the top brass at dell...when i buy a system,,,i want some configuration options....in a notebook, i usually want nivida, because i like to mess with linux...doens,t dell understand things like this...i don,t think they even think about it.

 

Dell owns Alienware. Besides, they still have the Studio XPS and Precision workstation series.

 

yes, i know dell owns alienware,,but its like dell owning bmw, and then merging it with chevy. i just don,t like their mind-set......dell not making there own high end systems it like delll is loosing its own product line....maybe its me,,,but i just don,t like what they are doing..and those of us that have the titanium card, we cannot even use it anymore for alienware products, though they still offer it...why

and dell had allmost no configuration options....take for example the studio 17....god,,,why would i want to by that with the inte 4500,,with not other video options...that is totally insane that i cannot get a nvida 9800gt,,or something like that....dell is all cheap anymore.

 

Why would they make their own high-end systems and then compete with themselves? Your logic makes no sense.

 

Actually... STUDIO 17 offers ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 (512MB) and ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 (1GB) as their video cards besides the integrated one

 

Your kidding right? Alienware products until recent have been very poorly built low quality junk. The only reason they are designing and building decent products today is because Dell owns them. Talk about cheap plastic computers, that was alienware until they were bought by Dell. If you want to see quality products take a look at the Precision M4400 and M6400 systems. The Studio XPS line is also a very solid product that exceeds any alienware I have seen in the last5-6 years as far as build quality goes. Aliebware systems perform quite well, but quality they are not.

Comparing an Alienware to a BMW is a serious insult to BMW my friend.

 

Product consolidation...they were building two products that directly competed against each other so they stuck with the more popular one. Alienware was better established in the gaming industry.

 

well, i would rather have choices , and i think alienware was starting to come along with thier products....would you not rather have a m17x and a dell xps 1730 to pick from ,,,instead of just one choice.... dell could make money off both compaines. i see this all the time, a big company buys another, and its bascially to eliminate competition...look what hp did to voodoo, its basically non-existent.....so the buying of these smaller companies by giants like dell, they become nothing ....voodoo and alienware are basically gone....though dell is using alienware,s name.......that is the reality of it...like it or not

 

I don't think you understand how financially stupid it would be for Dell to produce 2 laptops in direct competition with each other. You double R&D costs, you double support costs, you double manufacturing costs, and you're left with maybe a tiny increase in revenue.

And as for Voodoo, HP just announced the Envy 13 and Envy 15. They may not be calling them Voodoo machines anymore, but the quality, performance and price shows direct lineage to Voodoo machines.

 

lots of alienware consumers were hoping that alienware would become of the better high end gaming products produced, and really did not expect dell to dismantle the company and merge it with dell...when dell first bought alienware , it was going to leave alienware alone, like a separate company...not sure what happen to that,,,because dell now decided to merge their products.

i, as a consumer, want choices, and dell has just made fewer choices for me ,,,,,,in the desktop and laptop market. no more dell high end desktops or laptops...lets just steel from alienware

 

Alienware is not dismantled, it's clearly and obviously still alive, hence the Alienware computers that are still being produced. I have absolutely no clue where you're getting your ideas or facts from, but they're just plain wrong.

 

Unless you're privy to some secret internal memos from dell, from what I see Alienware is alive and well. They manufacture their products and sell it under their name and still function as a wholly owned subsidiary.

 

why is it i cannot buy alienware products with my alienware titanium card....??? you are shifted to the dell site and use dells preferred card...is that a separate subsidiary...you cannot even use alienwares financial tools they once had

 

Because Dell now owns Alienware, just as it would be stupid for them to create 2 directly competing laptops, it's also stupid for them to keep track of 2 different credit cards.

 

general motors owns chevy impala, and buick lacrosse....so they will just stop making the impala because they compete against each other.....you don,t get it ...I WANT CHOICES...not eliminate them

 

It's great that you want Dell to compete with themselves. I want a 2 pound laptop made of solid gold with dual 280m GTX's and a side of spaghetti, all for $20. But guess what, that's not gonna happen either.

And BTW, it's awesome that you used GM as an example. Did you forget that they were 2 inches from going out of business since their business model sucked? Guess what one of the main restructuring goals of GM is - here, I'll tell you: reducing the number of different models they produce.
http://www.doobybrain.com/2009/02/17/gm-to-reduce-its-number-of-car-brands-to-4/

 

if i was michael dell....you could have a m17x alienware, or a xps 1930 dell laptop....have you name imprinted on on either. but he,s not rich enough,....got to make of few more billions.

 

I'm not sure what that response meant, but if you're insinuating that Michael Dell is in the business to make money, yes, you are correct. Surprisingly, businesses are indeed in it for the profits. Shocking, I know.

 

I have to say, this is pretty funny. I don't know why, but I'll try and explain.

Dell used to make computers that competed with Alienware. Then they bought Alienware and discontinued their own laptops. You now only have Alienware, with all the funding of Dell.

Huge companies competing with small ones usually doesn't benefit the consumer too much anyway. Dell and HP can now compete with each other, both with their very high end laptops, Envy vs Alienware.

SXPS is still a high end line too...

 

i still cannot get use to the alienware laptops on the dell site....what about those that would buy a dell high end laptop...but would have nothing to do with alienware....dell looses.

there are some that like dells move with alienware, but i have read threads that hate it....

 

Yes, you are again correct, but Dell loses more money by creating two competing laptops.

I really don't understand how this is so hard for you to grasp. Lemme try and make this clear to you: Dell makes more money if they don't make two laptops that compete directly with each other. Do you get it now?

 

This is why you don't feed trolls.

 

Yeah, this thread is nearing the end of its life...

If you have a legitimate complaint against Dell, fine. But if the only problem is that you don't like Dell's business decisions, then shop with another company and put your money where your <s>mouth</s> post is.

 

I AGREE!!!!!

 

I agree with the concerns raised by the thread creator.

Even recently Dell has removed the option of VGA and HDD on Studio 15 after Intel i7 launch

Whats the difficulty Dell has not to give option for AMD, Ubuntu OS for ALL its models ??? I wish if they give option to choose OS atleast for ALL models so, we can save extra $s You hardly find any good config in any Dell laptops with Ubuntu OS as compared to Studio/Studio XPS systems as I hate Win DOG

Above all a consumer MUST have the option to choose, as CONSUMER IS THE KING.

edit: now seems Dell has added option for HDD on Studio 15 with i7

 

Dell changes options on their machines based on part availability. If it is not available, that is because Dell is not sure when they're going to get another shipment of that part in. Rather than have a customer order something that takes weeks to come in, they temporarily eliminate the option.

Again, if you don't like it...shop elsewhere.

As for Windows/Linux, that belongs in another thread. Dell tried the Linux thing, it did not sell well. Again, Dell is making business decisions that result in a profitable operation. They aren't going to support Linux if it leads to a loss of revenue.

AMD, not sure what happened there but I suspect either demand wasn't there or AMD could not keep up with supply.

 

I love it when people claim to have better business ideas, yet they have no experience running and competing with a business.

If you want more choices, make your own destiny. Start up your own High end business. Otherwise, you are going to have to buy a computer that someone else designed, that someone else built, that someone else marketed.

 

Why are you guys even talking back to a guy who has no sense of using PERIODS or COMMAs...and can't even spell? Jeez.

 

Bored. Nobody to talk to at work today.

 

I thought the removal of the XPS M1730 was that it was now discontinued due to a new XPS being released in the coming future. However by the sounds of it im incorrect.

 

sorry, i hate english. much better at math and science.

 

XPS line has been discontinued.

XPS is now used as a modifier for other systems to indicate high performance/premium quality. Hence, the Studio XPS machines, and the upcoming Adamo XPS. Perhaps one day, an Inspiron/Mini XPS.

The gaming label for Dell is now Alienware, however, and that is its flagship label for top of the line performance. Due to this, there will no longer be 'XPS only' notebooks.

 

So looks like iv got the last of the XPS's, explains why dell were selling these back over the summer with such hugh savings on the British website. I think i got the last batch of the dual 9800 gt XPS'S