m1210 cpu fan not spinning and machine not booting up

Hi, 90% sure the board on this and/or the cpu has gone bang on my laptop but would like to get a little feedback on this before a) I bin it or b)pay for a repair...If its even possible.

Had the freezing issues followed by the display card errors (g0 7400) but i ignored it as it would usually fix itself.

HOWEVER, now i cant get the machine to start up...On pressing the power button, the lights come on but there are no beeps. The cd drives does a small spin up, you can hear the hard drve do the same but thats it. The cpu fan does not move at all...Not even a flinch. I don't think power is getting to it.

I've removed ram and its still the same....The hard drive and its still the same....Its as if the Mboard is not even aware of any hardware attached or neccessary

Im not sure what has gone wrong and I fear the cpu has burnt out with the board....What would cause the fan not to spin though???

Options and suggestions please ;-)

 

Does any LED indicator start flashing continuously when you turn it on? Or is there a constant light that doesn't blink?

 

Blue power led comes on...hdd led comes on then off, leaving just the green standby led.

There was a time when the 9 padlock was solid with the A padlock and down arrow icon leds flashing, but this is not happening anymore.

Hope this helps

 

Take out the battery pack and AC power

Hold the power button for 30 seconds or more

Try starting up again only using AC power

If that doesnt work, then your gpu died. Happened to my go 7200 aswell. This is why i say the 7xxx is also part of the Nvidia defect issue. HP lists these nvidia model in their recall page.

 

If the above doesn't work....

Did you install any other new hardware or swap anything out? (New hard drive, etc) If so, you will want to reseat it.

HP initiated a recall for all defective GPUS!?

If there is still a problem afterwards.. because its a flashing light, it is a hardware problem and it is possible that it is your GPU that is the cause of it. Of course it could also be something else like the processor isnt seated properly, etc.

If you dropped your notebook before, things like that might happen. The m1210 isn't that old, but it might be worn out depending on the time you have had your notebook.

 

Sorry, not exactly a recall. We prefer to call it a recall instead of 'Enhanced Warranty Service' as HP terms it.

Since last year, the geforce GO models have had a high failure rate. I was suprised i had to be one of them.

 

Hi guys....Tried the AC only tip and nothing changed :-(

Is a fried chipset the likely cause for the whole system not even attempting to initialize? No beeps (warnings) etc etc??!

No hardware has been changed or swapped...A perfectly working machine has gone from buggy errors/freezing/lock ups to....This!

 

There is a huge difference between enhanced warranty and recall, but I can see why you prefer to call it that way.

My previous notebook was the E1505 with the ATI X1400. It does stink that you were one of them. It is odd cause you'd think that Dell would have done something similar.

I dunno if it was a die packaging issue or not or maybe if HP just received a bad batch maybe.

It might not be a fried chipset. It could be a processor suddenly dying, RAM not seated properly or just have to be taken out and reseated. I have had that issue before once with my tablet when I turned on the notebook and the indicator was continuously flashing, but no display, startup, fans didn't kick in or anything.

Fact is, its a hardware issue and since your system was working perfectly fine... its gotta be something that has been worn down or damaged probably due to long term usage. You can open up your notebook to check to see if there is anything that looks burnt out or dead, but unfortunately, its reached its end of life and needs to be replaced consider you never dropped your notebook or anything of the sort.

 

Classic symptom of failing gpu. Ive seen it happen in the past, it eventually fails. People first assume its the drivers.

Heres something you should try:
1) Turn on the notebook and leave it on for 30mins - 1 hour. This will pre-heat your notebook

2) Shut it off quickly and turn it back on. Keep trying till this comes back alive.

 

i've taken out ram and reseated it...Blew a clump of dust of the heat sink stuck between the fan (over heating issue??!). I didnt notice any burnt smell or marks on the board (I had a good look). The laptop has defo not been dropped...

The last things I rememeber were the graphics lock ups and the vertical lines at boot up (on the dell logo) - Drivers uninstalls/reinstalls sorted this and then kapput!!! Nothing!!!

How can I determine if its the GPU or CPU or both or something else? Is it worth replacing or can a motherboard specialist repair it? Im thinking of trying a few people and seeing what they come up with

 

Ack, my bad for not paying attention to that part about vertical lines and gfx card errors. Yeah, its definitely GPU failure no questions asked.

Unfortunately your options are replacing the whole motherboard, which probably is not worth it and my advice is to just get a whole new laptop.

The reason being is that the GPU is soldered onto the motherboard so you can't simply take out the bad one and stick in a new one. If the GPU fails.. the whole motherboard has to be changed.

 

Yikes!!!! It would have probably been better for the cpu to be burnt....

Hmmm, oh well. No need to go looking for someone to repair this then...2nd hand board if im lucky enough to bump into one or I'll just sell this for scraps and get a new laptop.

I'll try the heat up tip and see how I go....Can this not damage the CPU though? Just thinking, no fan could be a bad story.

I'd just like to add, I really appreaciate the help you guys have been giving me

How dare Dell let this happen to me?!

 

You can try the heat up suggestion though I am fairly certain it won't work. The fact that it is not fully starting up is because of the GPU and it wont have any negative effect on your processor because nothing is actually initialized/starting up. So feel free to have at it as much as you want, you will not damage any components.

Hopefully you find a 2nd hand board, or get to sell it, if not, you might want to sell your processor, but you might keep the hard drive and use as an external hard drive or something.

Sorry to bring the bearer of bad news, but at least you know what the problem is and saved yourself the time, money, and trouble of having to find a repairman or technician who would have told you the same thing if not less.

 

I've experinced exactly the same thing. Dell said that's the GPU failure and I need to replace the whole mobo. Unfortunately I didn't extend the warranty, caused me to have to sell it for a very cheap price. I suffered a big loss that time + the money I spent for diagnosing my problem. I learned through the hard way.

 

Yep....Saved me listening to some repair man who didn't know what the hell he was talking about and telling me he could fix it, then on trying, telling me he couldnt. lol

Thanks for the tips guys...Now I understand why the system won't boot. I guess the faulty chipset is breaking the chain.

Oh well, I'll consider my options and take it from there

Thanks again

UPDATE!!!

The fan has decided to kick in since being plugged in for a bit. Still no boot up or beeps though :-(

 

It's coming on!!!!

It's still not perfect but it comes.

I woke up and just pressed the power button and up came the Dell screen....Then came about 20 vertical rows of blue lines (in blocks of 4)..It loaded into vista and the screen was displayed as it should.

I tried to reboot into safe mode but on shutting down, it just hung on a black screen. I had to hold down the power button to get the machine to turn off. When i pressed the power button, surprise surprise...Nothing!! :-(
I waited a few minutes and pressed it again and it came on again (as if it needed to cool down a bit )

This is the new issue...If i get it to boot into vista, it can't shutdown and reboot. If i do get the boot screen, sometimes it wont even boot all the way....Im getting full grey screens now.

I decided to run the diagonistic from the onetime boot menu and funny enough, the video card passed (displayed perfect colour bars).....Spoke to soon....Whilst testing memory with CPUs, vertical lines came up :-( This is getting confusing

Just for the record im running A08 bios.

I wonder if its a combination of bios, vista and a smelly go 7400 card. Anyone gettig this on XP? Maybe a XP install is in order?! *Sigh*

 

Oh sorry i forgot to tell you, you cant EVER shut it down. Once you shut it down it wont start back up for another 300 tries lol. You should have used that time to backup your stuff. Dont bother with diagnostics, i can guarantee you it will completely fail sooner or later.

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