temps for xps m1530 high?

Xps m1530 idle/browsing on the internet

THM:55 celsius

core 1: 54
core 2: 56

GPU: 66-67

HDD 43

Had my graphics card/mother board replaced because i thought i had cooling issues, but i don't know if its any better. should i ask for a fan replacement? copper mod doesn't work on a m1530 right?

 

Looks fine... normal temperatures

But wait, GPU idling at 66-67???

Its usually around 57-61!!!

May be its the peak for ur usage... better get a screenshot of HWmonitor.

Also, for "idle" I would recommend just leaving the comp alone for a while...

Otherwise they are normal temp, IMHO.

Also, just in case, you might wanna get a cooler too.. the Zalman and Cryo are good choices.. Zalman' a bit cheaper.

And make sure you have good ventilation beneath the laptop (are you with a 6-cell?). Make sure you dont block the main intake..

 

ya its 67 GPU now, after a night. do you think its a cooling problem? i was thinking of asking dell to replace my cooling system/fan ???

i have a 9 cell so circulation shouldn't be too much of a problem

 

Is it idling at 67? or is it going from 54/55 to 66/67? if you just leave it alone, it usually idles anywhere between 56-60 C.

 

Sorry guys to grab this thread out again but there is still a question from the starter which would also be interesting for me. He asked :" copper mod doesn't work on a m1530 right? "
Which would be very nice to know as I think about apply the mod to my laptop which is also a XPS M1530. Does the M1530 has the blue thermal pad and is it possible to apply the copper mod ?
Thanks

 

I had a look at mine last night and there's only a pink pad under the northbridge, the gpu and cpu seem to only have thermal paste sandwiched between them and the heatpipe.

Its generally accepted that the northbridge has more than sufficient cooling even with a pad under it.

Its only if you have a pad under the gpu that its worth doing the mod (with the 1330 the heatpipe doesn't perfectly fit the board thats why they put a pad in)

The copper mod does work on the 1530 (as in its easy to do it) Its just theres negligible benefits (or it appears that way form peoples posts) of doing it, you might see a 5 degree drop in temps but that doen't really warrant the bother of taking the whole thing apart and voiding your warranty.

 

Hmm ok.
I just ask because I think my temperatures are just to high but maybe iam wrong?

Idle
THM :50 C
core1 : 46 C
core2 : 42 C
GPU : 64 C
HD : 41

Load
THM : 87 C
core1 : 73 C
core2 : 78 C
GPU : 84 C
HD : 45 C

If there is nothing wrong with these temperatures I dont think about touch the cooling system.

 

Load - As in heavy gaming?
(for a few hours)

Those temps aren't extremely high, though they are higher then most,

Are you using a 6cell or 9cell battery?
(try raising the back of the laptop)

 

Here are my temps after 4 hours of gaming on COD4 note this was like 5 mins after but you can see th load temps, ive taken the cooler off and applied some MX-2.

i131.photobucket.com/albums/p315/Breezey2468/Tempsafter4hoursgaming.jpg?t=1225049486

My gpu can idle from 60-70 degrees so i would say yours is about normal


OT: what are normal overclocks for the 8600mgt?

Cheers

 

For overclocks:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=311608

I think though his cpu temperatures are a bit high,
high 70's, low 80's I'd be getting a bit worried.

 

Cpu temps should be below 70-75C, and GPU temps under 85C , for safety.
Above that,

 

how are you checking the temp's? does the notebook give you the readings somewhere?

 

HWMonitor .
Download that and it will tell you everything.

 

"Load - As in heavy gaming?
(for a few hours)

Those temps aren't extremely high, though they are higher then most,

Are you using a 6cell or 9cell battery?
(try raising the back of the laptop)"

Hi mate,
yes with load I mean gaming. At the moment Gothic 3 on high details where I reach this temperatures.
Im just worried about the temp from the THM as 84C seems like high temp to me. Also the CPU has a lot thats why I asked We will get summer here in Australia soon with temperatures about 40 some days and I dont want to risk that the laptop then is not running anymore because its to hot.

Iam using the standart 6 cell dell battery. So maybey I just raise the laptop to give it more space to suck more air in ? At the moment it sits flat on a wooden table.

 

yeah raise the back of it, using anything - placemats or books, whatever - you should see a big drop in temperature straight off, thats the problem with the 6 cell, especially since all the intake vents are on the bottom of the laptop.

 

Ok I just tried it for a few hours with the raised laptop under load and the temps are not really better :
Load
THM : 91 C
core0 : 69C
core1 : 79C
GPU : 82C
HD : 49C

Doesnt really help here

 

Thats kind of odd, ususally increasing the airflow under it should lower the temperatures.

What kind of air temperatures do ye have at the moment?

 

Those are very odd temperatures. Are your 2 cores always off by 10 degrees? Is your hard drive always close to 50?

I'm just going to lay a guess but the 91 THM could mean that either there is a sensor malfunction which is causing the temperatures to be reported incorrectly or there is some blockage which is not allowing proper ventilation.

 

Compared to mine they look normal, but maybe we both are f*up.

MAX playing wow
MIN just using winamp/msn
with something like 25º room temp

btw, mines is 6cell with no books, coolerpads or something like that

 

The air temps here are about 20-24 depends on the day. As its only spring its not that warm here but when I allready get temps like that at spring how is it at summer when its allready hard to cool my house down ?

I just started my laptop to check the temps.
Temperatures after 5 minutes laptop start (idle):
THM 47 C
Core0 42
Core1 36
GPU 60
HDD 29

But after allready another 3 minutes the temperatures from the HDD is going up, the other stuff is allright
HDD 34

I will do some testing today. Maybe a wonder happened because its bull**** that a THM has 47 in idle and then 91 in bloody action which is almost the double! Same with the core1 which has more! than double temperature in load (and the load was not that hard...Civilization 4 wow that sucks power)
Lets see how it goes today.

Edit :

After one hour gaming Gothic 3 pretty much the same results as before :
THM 90 C
Core0 72 C
Core1 79 C
GPU 83 C
HDD 50 C

 

hi guys,

I just want to tell you guys that I reported it to Dell and they send a technician out in the next days to replace several parts of the laptop because its definitely a hardware problem. So I would suggest other users here in this forum to report any high temperature problems to dell.
Thanks guys,

Fabian

 

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I got the same, I got a new motherboard + HD, didn't do squat.

Still 90-95 whilst gaming. The back is raised. I've e-mailed Dell again about it.

 

The technician is away now. He replaced the RAM (one of the RAM was damaged) and replaced the heating assembly. But he didnt replaced the mainboard
Actually the heating assembly now is quite different. It has 2 built in metal plates where the GPU and the Northbridge is and looks like the M1330 copper mod now. I will report here later on if I played a few hours to report the temperatures.

 

Ok guys I just finished the testing.
The GPU is not running that hot anymore than before. Also the THM shows a lower temperature. Its about 3-5 C.
I keep you guys updated if something happens.

 

F1r3ball, could you take a pic of it and post ??

im wondering if any1 is like this one im posting.

thanks in advance

 

I'd be quite miffed if I got that as a replacement - thats the OLD design revision.
I would hope he didn't get that one.

 

=(

i was hoping to be newest, since i got my 1530 on agoust

 

Seems i have the same cooling assembly as weiser, whitch one is the new one ??, because i thought they replaced the ones that had copper with these ones with aluminum...

 

Hmm yeah I have almost the same like weiser.
Even if thats the old design its still better than my old one. There is only one difference to mine : The CPU doesnt have this huge metal plate that weiser has on his. The rest looks same.
If the temps are going up again I just call again and stirring shi* until I get new stuff.

 

You might want to go ahead and do the copper mod. It takes about 5 minutes if you know what you're doing and if you don't I think it's an easy modification to do to get yourself acquainted with your GPU.

I averaged about 5 degrees cooler but psychologically, I feel like my 8600m GT is more potent because it has copper on it now lol.

 

I was of the opinion that picture 1(attached) was the revised heatsink assembly and that picture 2(attached) was the older heatsink assembly.

I assumed that they originally shipped with that aluminium/steel/alloy material. Then when Dell realised that lots of 1530's and 1330's were overheating and given the stand-alone issues with the
8600m gt/8400m gt that they decided to use copper throughout.

Bty Copper has a thermal conductivity of ----- 401 k(W(mK)^(-1))
where as steel has a thermal conductivity of - 45 - 65 k(W(mK)^(-1))
and aluminium has a thermal conductivity of -- 237 k(W(mK)^(-1))

i.e copper is much, much better at transferring heat than any others, the only thing better is pure silver, anything better than this is extremely uneconomical to use.

So there would be no logical reason to downgrade to aluminium or steel or an alloy, especially if the laptop is over heating as is.

 

Actually the dell guy changed the heatsink assembly from your first picture to the last picture but just without the metal plate over the CPU. This would really **** me off if I would get old stuff...

 

Any chance you could post a pic?
Lots of people have reported one like you said, I just havn't seen any other than the two I posted.

 

hmm so i have the old one? this lap is from july, and i just applied AS5 witch helped my temps a lot !

From:
CPU avg: 75C
GPU avg:81C

To
CPU:69
GPU:77

So i dont see the need to call dell over it now

cheers

 

I don't know, I assume it is. I bought mine late septeber/early october and it came with the copper throughout assembly.

Avg temp under full load and OC'd - gpu 68
cpu 46
Avg idle temp (using explorer etc.) gpu 55
cpu 35

I don't know maybe I was just lucky?

BTY Do you know what the score is on applying artic silver instead? Will it void the warranty?
I'd love to do the mod, just I'd rather hate losing something that I might actually need given the poor soldering issue.

 

Guys, the heatsink with the aluminium is the new revision.
My M1530 was built in January and the original heatsink had copper.

Recently, I got mobo changed and heatsink replaced with the aluminium one.
Although the new heatsink seems to be hotter, the new fan is quieter with less whine than the original.

Check this thread

 

My bad, but in reality its dell's bad, not only do they ship laptops with graphics cards they know are fatally flawed , but then they go and cut corners on the cooling system for their faulty gpu's. Brilliant or what?

 

.... WWOOOOWWW
man... those temps are awsome... hell you dont need AS5, and no i dont think it will void your warranty, since a tech at dell said it was okay to remove the heat assembly to clean out the fan and re-apply thermal paste for better contact.

Anyways, getting an external laptop fan to see if it works
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000S52W6M/ref=ord_cart_shr?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance

 

"I don't know, I assume it is. I bought mine late septeber/early october and it came with the copper throughout assembly.

Avg temp under full load and OC'd - gpu 68
cpu 46
Avg idle temp (using explorer etc.) gpu 55
cpu 35

I don't know maybe I was just lucky?"

Yes you are a lucky duck.
And Iam pis*ed off from these dell guys if I read your temperatures.Bloody 68 under load...I have 64 IDLE and under load it goes up to 84.
Your cpu under load is a joke or I will cry. My cpu never goes under 47 IDLE, under load at least 75+. Hopefully my M1530 gets the shi*s and destroyes itself so I get a new one...thats bullshi*.
Ah yeah I forgot to tell you guys that I just noticed a grainy screen. White windows at the OS have grey pixels inside...is that normal ? Looks like shi* and iam sure it wasnt like that all the time. But I use a 22" LCD so I dont use the display all the time.
Its a good one with 1680x1050 (the maximum possible at the time of purchase).
I keep you guys updated.

 

Nope not joking, but I think I got a bad hdd to compensate, I got the 400Gb 5400 rpm, and my god does it get hot - after a few hours of gaming etc. you could cook eggs on the palmrest. I'd love to know what the 7200 rpm is like.

 

on my black scorpio you cant cook eggs but you can raise your full body temperature trought your wrist

 

Just to prove I'm not talking BS.

picture 1 Idling --- just internet explorer

picture 2 full load - rthdribl for about 5-10 mins at full overclock possible (temps didn't change so I saw no point in continuing it for longer)

BTY this was done as is, NO external cooler used.

Nb. If I use my laptop cooler I get picture 3

 

hehe, yep, thats very nice

I wonder what could be the cause of the difference between my xps m1530 and yours... could it be that i have a faster CPU?(or just different construction of the parts) ... and by the way, the 320Gig 7200RPM hard drive runs hot..... really hot

oh and i see you have that fan control application... is it able to control the fans in the xps m1530?

 

I would have thought yours would run a bit hotter with the that cpu but

http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupId=33918
http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=33099

They both have the same max tdp of 35W, So if anything your's is actually more efficient at keeping the heat down.

The only thing I can think of is the heatsink assembly - that aluminium alloy must be causing the discrepancy.

Edit: That speedfan application won't control fan speed, I don't think any software (out at the moment) does (or can)?

 

hmm, oh well
Its fine anyways, just that i wont be able to overclock as much as i want hehe, but other than that this thing runs like a charm, i mostly maxed it out so that its still useful in 3 years (hopefully)

 

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no my HDD is also hot. I usually dont use the palmrest but when I have to its to hot. Lets see what Dell tells me this week.

 

The thing I can't figure out is how the area around the touchpad and to the right of it, is also hot - There's nothing under it to actually get hot, only the express cards motherboard connector and I've nothing using the express card slot, So??

 

Talking about Hot , check this out



How , I just ran this for 1 mins

winsat d3d -alushader -texshader -totalobj 12

Going to Call Dell Today ... Never had this issue , Do You Guys know Why ?? I have played Crysis in this machine and my temp never crossed 80C

 

Wow thats bad, I assume your temps pre-running were normal?

Thats quite odd as that application isn't even that graphically complex.
Just ran it, didn't break a sweat.

Try http://www.daionet.gr.jp/~masa/rthdribl/ its much more intence, see if the same temps happen.

 

Still the same mate Called Dell they said they will be sending a person to replace my MB and GPU ... let see how this goes on ...