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    u willing to invest ur time, money and efforts on AS5(if available whr u live) if it resolves GPU throttling on ur StudioXPS16XX

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by Dinkleburg, Mar 22, 2010.

  1. Dinkleburg

    Dinkleburg Notebook Consultant

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    It seems the Studio XPS 1640/5/7 GPU throttling thread is going nowhere. I want to know how many owners want DELL to resolve the issue.
    Some may find it convenient to apply AS5, some may not.
    I request all XPS owners to vote.
     
  2. EGM92

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    considering AS5 doesn't resolve all of the throttling issues, no. It may work for some but the thermal threshold set by the BIOS is still the problem. There needs to be a better cooling solution like a higher quality HSF / vent.
     
  3. XmDXtReMeK

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    if you apply AS5 you will never hit the temperature threshold(84C). It is just not possible, at least for me.
     
  4. danp224

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    Very little effort, if you're careful.
    Very little time, if you're organized. Watch the video a few times.
    Doesn't cost a whole lot, and the benefits far outweigh doing nothing.
     
  5. Mechanized Menace

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    Both can be/are very true however the vent design is not the best. Think of it logistically though for a company to do this mass redesign/recall on vents (Like dell did previously on the 1640 when it was just that a 1640) It would be a nightmare now that there are three models with the tens of thousands being purchased/already purchased.


    this is why they are not addressing it. it's expensive to them so what we need to do is get them to realize it's more expensive to keep reparing replacing laptops then it would be to replace a simple plastic vent that any user can replace themselves.
     
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    i thought the 130w adapter and bio fixed the throttling.
     
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    Mechanized Menace Lost in the MYST

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    CPU throttling not GPU
     
  8. n3verm0re

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    Run Prime95 (8 threads) and FurMark together and you'll see 84C within 10 minutes. Whether this is a valid test is up for debate, but this setup can be run successfully without CPU or GPU throttling on other i7 systems (for example, the Envy).
     
  9. gaah

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    Not true. Running with AS5 my GPU/CPU never top 78C under full load.
     
  10. Featherbeard

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    Remember, just because your experience was that way, doesn't make everyone else's exactly the same. :) I properly applied my AS5 and my i820-based system's GPU still hits 81-82 under full load even with a cooler. Everyone's systems are different. :) The cooling design itself is really the issue, as if you go by what people are speculating, the system was designed to handle the heat load given off by the throttled, under-powered system. Now that we've got access to the whole enchilada, the system has trouble dissipating the extra heat. I'm not sure what other people's heat readings are like, but just using itunes to play music on my machine (RGBLED), my GPU temps are 52-53, which seems strangely high when the screen is off. :p
     
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    you know the GPU itself is supposed to withstand 100 degrees plus? Yes the bios is downclocking at 84 degrees. even if you are 82 degrees then you are fine, you wont experience downclocking. The chip itself runs 45-50 average no matter what.
    Edit: however it does not change the fact that their poor venting design may cause my screen to get damaged in the long run. Which Im worried about the most.
     
  12. Featherbeard

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    Yes, I've been following threads for months, so I'm fully aware, but that doesn't mean I can't be unhappy with the amount of heat these machines are putting out. :) My laptop should not have to be forced, for example, to turn my fans up to medium when it's sitting *idle*. :( (Or start heating up pretty heavily when even doing basic Photoshop or Painter work.)
     
  13. danp224

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    Dinkleburg,

    This issue can not be resolved to your satisfaction, as it requires a redesign. A new vent really won't cut it as there is inadequate airflow inside the chassis. The notebook cooler is a very good solution as it help to force air throughout

    There needs to be a way to cool the radiator that is underneath that vent, an no amount of vent trimming or Thermal Paste is going to change that fact. If Dell again increases the Thermal Limits above 84C, the machine will just continue to climb until it hits 92C and then shut down due to overheating, at least mine would with the old paste.

    Now that I've changed my Thermal Paste, to GC-Extreme, this machine does everything that I ask of it and more, unless it comes to modern gaming.

    Your mileage may vary.
     
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    Is that with an external monitor or with the RGBLED screen?
     
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    Rgbled. o_O!!!!
     
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    Color me shocked. I'm not seeing how it's possible that you're not experiencing 84C temperatures when running both Prime95 and Furmark. When running these two applications, are you running ThrottleStop (with appropriate checkboxes checked) to prevent the CPU throttling that occurs?

    If you are, then I'm at a loss. Running either test alone and my system stays below 70. Run both together (with TS enabled, not just logging) and bam, 84C. Regardless, I'm definitely happy that you've been able to achieve such great results :)
     
  17. Dinkleburg

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    Exactly, couldnt have said it better myself.
    The only solution is a notebook cooler.
    Im going to wait for the Zalman NC2500 and NC3000. Heres some pics

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=6049784#post6049784