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    x9000 in a xps m1530

    Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by CSHawkeye81, May 21, 2008.

  1. CSHawkeye81

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    I was wondering would this chip work in the laptop. It wont be overclocked, just wondering??
     
  2. Remi

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    Well, the X9000 causes heat problems for some users of the Alienware M15X, I doubt it would be any better in the slim form factor of the m1530.
     
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    yes that processor wll work
     
  4. CSHawkeye81

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    but do you think it will have any major heat issues??
     
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    TDP of the EE's is 44w

    TDP of the non EE C2D's is 35w

    Add a gpu to the mix and the already limited cooling setup will be overloaded.

    In other words while it may work, it will either overheat and underclock/shutdown or operate at high temperatures that may cause problems for the machine.
     
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    I have had one installed for a month now and it does none of the above. Take the crappy pads off and use some decent thermal paste like arctic silver 5 and you will be fine. Mine runs no hotter than the T7500 2.2ghz it replaced. Its often better to take advice from people that have actually carried out such a task rather than just speculating. There are a few other forum members that have carried out the same mod with no ill effects. Go buy one :)
     
  7. CSHawkeye81

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    ok so what are your average temps??
     
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    Intel does not just put numbers out there for the fun of it. Yes it might work in your M1530. But usage patterns and application used could very well be different. Even the ambiant room temperature can seriously afftect your temperature.

    The fact remains that the X9000 has a Thermal Design Power of 44W while a T9500 has 35W. That`s a 25% increase that the thermal solution in the M1530 must be able to handle.
     
  9. chainy75

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    It idles at 50/60c

    obviousley under load it would be considerabley more but would depend on the task in hand. As I said, I have never had a shut down or has it overheated during intensive tasks such as video conversion which mine is used for. It gets hot for sure but no more than any of the other high end chips sold with the m1530.
     
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    If you undervolt it, X9000 should run fine.
     
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    It will work but it will give you problems dur to the heat
     
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    Im not suggesting your figures are wrong. Just telling people how it is in a real world situation. The better thermal compound would help imenseley and most products are always over engineered. The M1530 seems to cope fine with cooling My x9000 and it has never reached anywhere near fatal temperatures. Fact!
     
  13. Rhodan

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    That seem a little hot... My T7700 idles around 45c and never goes higher that 77 while under stress using orthos.

    Run orthos on it for 45 minutes... That`s a test.
     
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    A fact would be screen shots of orthos and harware monitoring showing what the results are.

    Again my T7700 with stock cooling runs much cooler than your X9000 with a better thermal compound.
     
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    Well my old t7500 used to run at the same temps as my x9000 in my laptop. Every chip is different. Look at some of the older posts on the temps of the m1530 and you will see that in general it runs pretty hot. Im just saying my x9000 doesnt run any hotter than my old chip. If yours runs cool then thats great news. Dont knock it! lol.
     
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    im not familiar with stress testing but have just downloaded orthos and am currentley running a cpu stress test with gromacs core (whatever that might be) 13 mins in and the core temp hasnt exceeded 73c on either core
     
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    Try the Blend - Stress CPU and RAM. That`s the killer we use to test under volting.
     
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    yeah I would love to see this. I might be picking up my buddies m1530 and it only has a t7500 in it. I want to slap this x9000 I have in it to see how it runs.
     
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    Sure it can be done. But for whatever reason (read: memory and gfx), the performance of X9000 in 1530 is on par with a T9300. Well, at least benchy-wise.
     
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    Update - 13 mins into the blend stress test. so far it has only peaked at 74c but average is actually running cooler than the last cpu stress test. I put this down to the fan now being constantly on where as before it was on and off. So far so good. I will keep it running for the 45 mins while im watching the champions league final and keep you posted. I try and take a screen shot but will need to email it to some one as i cannot host.
     
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    i will pm you email address so i can see.
     
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    cool. 20 mins in and the highest it hit was 76c and that was for a split second. Dont think it looks like going any higher than that. In the real world you are not going to be stressing the cpu at 100% for this length of time, so looks pretty promising.
     
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    right, final update. I got a BSOD at 40 mins in. interestingly Windows diagnosed the fault as a video hardware/graphic driver issue. Im guessing the GFX card over heated before the cpu. The cpu was showing a temp of 72c before the BSOD. I have screen shots of temps under 100% load at 38 mins in. Will email them to you now. Just so you know i was also surfing and using msn messenger while under the stress test. It only crashed when i tried to get another screen grab. perhaps doing 4 tasks while under 100% load was pushing things a little too much. I actually think it was a pretty impressive test. The cpu actually run far cooler than i expected under such stress!
     
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    I got a new x9000 and I'm debating whether it's worth it to swap it for my t9500.
     
  25. CSHawkeye81

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    so if i do get this,how will playing COD 4 be like on the machine??
     
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    sorry cant help you there, i dont play games. i thought games were more gfx card intensive these days. the faster cpu may give you a few more fps i guess. if i run the test again but didnt have the other apps running, i think it would of run happily for ages. it only crashed when i kept trying to open the screeb grabber under 100% load. it was obviously taking its time to open and i kept repeatedley trying to open it. in a real world situation i dont think you will have any problems with the x9000 in the m1530.
     
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    It is possible that changing the thermal coumpond created an imbalance in the cooling solution that causes your GPU to heat up more under stress. If the heatsink draws more heat away from your cpu then the chipset and gpu will suffer.

    I`ve run this test at least 10 times and never got a bsod.
     
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    as i said, if i would of just been running the stress test i think it would of been fine. ill give it another go tomorrow if i remember.

    i think i proved my point that the m1530 is capable of cooling a x9000 as it runs at similar temps under load as yours and is alot more powerful
     
  29. Yitzter

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    it's really only 200 mhz more, shouldn't make THAT much of a difference, now quad core would be a different story!
     
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    I was referring to Rhodans cpu (t7700) thats 400mhz in my book!
    t7700 2.4ghz - x9000 2.8 ghz
     
  31. Yitzter

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    Even 400mhz isn't that much. It's not like we're talking about 1ghz. I mean yea it's more, thats why I'm probably going to be putting an x9000 in my lappy. But I'm just power hungry. lol!
     
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    thanks for the heads up, I guess the cooling on the xps m1730 is better to handle this since its seperate from the gpu's.
     
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    Absolutely, Dell actually offers the X9000 on the M1730.
     
  35. Yitzter

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    Even though It's minimal, I'm still going to drop one in. I want to see it's performance. My cpu idles at 35C with ASC and Cooling pad! now that's cool. I would like to see how the X9000 compares with the T9500.
     
  36. CSHawkeye81

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    well I own one right now, I was thinking of getting something smaller, but right now I take my laptop around to and from work , but that's in my car and I am not sure how much travel i will do with it. I love the convenience that it offers. Honestly I just want something that will suit both my performance and mobile needs.
     
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    There have been threads about cooling for M1330 using pieces of aluminum and such. If you can figure out how to get it to work with the X9000 with some cooling modifications on the inside... that would be incredibly powerful.
     
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    There is no cooling pad for the CPU on the m1530.
     
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    Nope, just a HUGE blob of hardened thermal compound.... Seriously, I just replaced it with AS5 yesterday, and that crap on there was so freaking hard, it was pretty much cement.
     
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    why bother trying mods to cool it! i just proved the x9000 runs no hotter than a t7700 under 100% load in the m1530. it only crashed as i was trying to multi task and run a stress test and even then it was not down to the cpu over heating.
     
  41. Yitzter

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    That's so true, it was such a pain to clean it off, how are your temps? mine are about 35C idle, I used AS Ceramique.