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    Dell Studio 1557

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by huntersvk, Sep 25, 2009.

  1. dcgm

    dcgm Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys, back again.

    I'm having some BSOD and general crashing issues again. Last night I was watching a video on youtube on battery when I got a low power indicator. As I plugged back into the wall (with the video still running), the laptop crashed badly. Upon restart, I got a BSOD. Waited 2 minutes, then tried to "repair" the problem. After 10 minutes, I was told the problem was not repaired, and if I had connected a camera or something else to disconnect and reboot. If problems persist, contact manufacturer.

    I powered back on today and all was fine (no windows repair necessary to boot back up). I have had similar issues in the past few weeks.

    I'm thinking it might have to do with heatsink problems, but who knows? I was wondering if there were any new developments rather than me skim through 180 pages. I'm calling dell again and I want a new computer because this is complete bull already.
     
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    kraftman Newbie

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    In case anyone has the same issues as I did with this:

    I followed the above guide but without much luck. Install the drivers and the broadband manager before physically inserting the card!
     
  3. OneCool

    OneCool I AM NUMBER 67

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    Well after a year and a half im giving up on the 1557/1558 guys.

    Motherboard went out on me AGAIN while gaming and temps where not the issue.Not sure what happened but im now in the process of parting out the rest of the laptop on Ebay.

    If anyone needs/wants something PM me.
     
  4. iafzal3

    iafzal3 Notebook Evangelist

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    what happened? BSOD or somthing else.
    What were your temps?
    I recall u did the shim mod and were very happy with it.
     
  5. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    Except the extreme edition processor, I'm successfully:-
    • Shims mod the heatsink
    • Setup external graphics card HD 5870 to replace the ancient HD 4570 for playing games.
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  6. altoster

    altoster Notebook Consultant

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    good work kiz... how much did it cost for the vy dock config... and from where it can be puchased..??
    thanks
    :)
     
  7. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    I bought the kit from HWtools.net. The one I bought is " PE4H-EC2C ver2.4 Package". So, currently running at x1 link. I paid around USD 102 (including shipping charges). Our notebook support x2 link setup. It gives comfortable performance than x1 link. For x2 link setup, you'll need " PE4H-PM3N ver2.4 Package" + PM3N (mini-PCIe card) + PCIEMM (mini-HDMI to mini-HDMI cable). This is because will need to use 2x PM3N for x2 link setup using PCIe port 1 & 2 (WLAN & WWAN port). Yeah, you'll need to removed the wireless device. I'm going to get 2x PM3N myself later.

    In addition to the kit, you'll need external monitor, desktop graphic card & ATX PSU. Most people have external monitor already & usually have an old ATX PSU around. So, probably you'll only need to buy a graphic card. If it is high-end graphic card, you probably need to buy new PSU at least 500W with single 12V rail.
     
  8. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    My Dell Studio is failing. When booting into Windows, it kept BSOD & while running diagnostic, it shutdown itself. Exactly after one year & a half, it finally giving up. I have pushed my Dell to the limit & I do not regret it failing now. Good bye Dell!

    So... what next? Any suggestion for my next notebook? Lenovo or Asus?
     
  9. pandoronn

    pandoronn Newbie

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    can you guys tell me how to install the moded bios? i execute PHLASH16.exe and it says its not compatible with my windows version, that i need a 32 or 64bit version of the program :S
     
  10. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    Hi pandoronn,

    CRISIS package with BIOS A04 is included in A09 modified BIOS package (Dell Studio 1557 R301433_A09 MOD). BTW, PHLASH16.exe is a DOS application. So, boot with DOS bootable disk & flash like this:-
    Code:
    phlash16.exe /x /s 1557A09M.WPH
     
  11. trancedrift

    trancedrift Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi kizwan,

    So how did you guys (kizwan and OneCool) managed to fry you Studio 1557s? Does it have something to do with the modded BIOS?

    I want to update my BIOS in order to turn hyperthreading off, and maybe disable core #4. I don't want to do any overclocking of the cpu/fsb/memory clocks. I was just wondering if the reason for the mobo deaths was the overclocking or some of the functions that were unlocked...

    Btw I still have another 2 years of warranty on the laptop and I am planning to continue using it for the full period as I actually mostly useing it as desktop replacement. For mobility purposes I will buy soon some netbook/i-pad alike... or ultrabook (samsung tx100 is amazing,asus eee pad transformer and slider as well). This is the reason I am still wondering for the update on the BIOS, I don't want to compromise my warranty but would like to disable atleast hyperthreading as it doesn't really contribute to the perfomance but instead causes the Turbo mode to kick in more often.
     
  12. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    Hi,

    Its turned out that it's false alarm. My Studio 1557 still OK. I'm using desktop graphic card (eGPU) with my Studio & it sometime (rarely) it make my Studio to do weird things. My Studio somehow power off while windows loading. I don't know what causing it because temps are low. One thing I learn from unclewebb (ThrottleStop author) is that Dell notebook will power off automatically when it want to consume more power than adapter can provide. To fixed this, only need to disconnect both battery & AC adapter. Then connect both back again. Problem solved.

    So far overclocking is not possible on Studio 1557. This is because clock generator on our Studio 1557 only support 100MHz & 133MHz bus speed.

    I do a lot VMware simulation on my Studio 1557, so extra CPU threads are very useful. Since I already connected eGPU to my Studio 1557, it's already become partial desktop computer. However I can hotplug the eGPU whenever I want. My Asus become backup notebook & I also use it whenever I go mobile, meetings, outstation, etc.

    If you want to disabled HyperThreading, I think it's good idea too. Not many applications or games utilize multi-threads. With the modified BIOS you can:-
    • Enabled/Disabled HT
    • Enabled/Disabled Turbo Boost
    • Enabled only 1 or 2 or 4 cores
    Using modified BIOS might void warranty if *they* found out.
     
  13. trancedrift

    trancedrift Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi again,

    I updated the BIOS today to the Dell provided A09 and it stoped some time before the end saying that flashing failed due to image problem, after that kbd (I think also the touch pad) was locked. However after restat I checked the BIOS and it said A09 and everything worked fine.

    I also updated audio and video driver (quite some changes after the new Dell driver - gpu recognised as HD545v, and everything looks and moves smother), and put the Intel Boost widget. I noticed that the Boost funtion kicked in almost all the time! So after the suspicious official BIOS flash and the knowldge that just as I expected the laptop is abusing the Boost function because of the Hyperthreading, I decided to flash it with your moded A09 BIOS. It took me some time to make Crisis back up and MSDOS startup disk - I had to make everything in virtual Win XP. The flashing worked smoothly and the new BIOS as well. I disabled only the Hyperthreading. I decided not to touch the number of cores as 3 cores is not available and after HT is disabled I realized that I will end up with only 3 open threads which a little bit too little. So.. everything worked as expected, windows loaded and it shows only 4 cores. It seams like it is using a little bit more CPU time now, which is also to be expected with less open threads. However I was amazed to see that the Boost function almost never kicks in, really only when a heavy process is started. No random Boost when surfing in the Net or watchng youtube videos. As a result temepratures now with 4 active cores are ~61 C at the moment which is about 7-8 degrees C less that they used to be with 4 cores with HT and 3-5 deg C less than with 3 cores and HT enabled. Most importantly with HT on temepratures used to jump up quite quickly (I guess again beause the Boost was constantly on) and now they seem to be more stable.
    I think that when I clean the heatsink and put new thermal paste the temps will drop to 55 deg C idle.

    I am quite satisfied with the mod and I want to thank you for making it :)
     
  14. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    Congrats! I'm glad you like it. :)
     
  15. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    DIY eGPU implementation: 15" Dell Studio 1557 + ATI Radeon HD 5870 @x2

    Link:-
     
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  16. trancedrift

    trancedrift Notebook Enthusiast

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    Cool stuff :) I think the HD4570 is bit let down for the generally powerful Studio 1557. At the time I was purchasing the laptop I was contemplating getting an ASUS with Core i7, almost the same specs, again with Full HD screen res and 500gb hdd but with nVidia GPU, it was one of the top models at that time. However the price difference of more than 400 euro was too much for just the GPU... and after all, I have the feeling I am getting too old for playing too much games :) I think that hitting the pubs after work is better spent time, especially considering that after I get married I will be deprived of that pleasure as well :D

    PS: I did finish Dirt 2 though several months ago, it was running quite smooth and had no problems. Rally simulators are my favorite, can't wait to have enough cash to actually own a real street legal race car , some Evo or WRX STi :)
     
  17. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    When buying notebook, I usually aim for middle-range GPU but with powerful CPU. This GPU is more than enough for me to play games. I only spent 3 to 4 hours a week playing games. :) At that time, I found the Dell Studio 1557 specification is the best. That is why I chose it. FWIW, it does deliver the performance I expected. I run multiple VMware guest OS on it.
     
  18. trancedrift

    trancedrift Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, that exactly what Studio 1557 is about. It is supposed to deliver performance for creativity and professional applications. It is not a gaming laptop. In fact, although I have finally turned off the Hyperthreading, it is a quite useful feature and I myself have befitted quite some times from the 8 available cores when I used to run 2 virtual Linuxes and still be able to write and execute scientific simulation scripts on Matlab in the Win environment - and they do use a lot of the CPU power. It is only when games are involved that overheating becomes an issue because the GPU struggles to keep up.
     
  19. getheo

    getheo Newbie

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  20. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    I don't see any reason why it won't work. However, I don't know whether it will run at DDR3-1600 or in backward compatibility DDR3-1333. When you tried this, please post the result here.
     
  21. getheo

    getheo Newbie

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    Thank you.I am going to put vertex 3 on my laptop.Will it work properly with sata 2 speed???
     
  22. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    According to OCZ: " Interface: SATA 6Gbps / Backwards Compatible 3Gbps "

    So, it should work.
     
  23. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    Hi All,

    I just want to share my experience here. Recommended by nando4, I tried Shin-Etsu thermal compound. I found Shin-Etsu G751 thermal compound is better than Arctic MX-4.

    (While browsing & checking email. The max temps are after running 3dMark06)

    Further information regarding this comparison:-
    • I bought Arctic MX-4 from authorized Arctic distributor. So, no doubt it is genuine.
    • I have use Arctic MX-4 from May 2011 until early September 2011. In that period, I have reapply the thermal compound using many methods I found on the internet. The results are the same whatever methods I use.
    • Notebook is put on top of cooling pad.
    • Room temperature between 32C to 36C.
    • The temperature in "Value" column: browsing & checking email.
    • The "Min" temperature: idle.
    • The "Max" temperature: running 3dMark06.

    Arctic MX-4
    [​IMG]

    Shin-Etsu G751
    [​IMG]
     
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  24. vasantonio

    vasantonio Newbie

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    Hi,

    the processor temps of my dell studio 1557 is around 75ºC in idle and over 90ºC in full load, and eventually it shutdowns. I want to know if I can underclock or undervolt the i7 720qm with this modified BIOS and consequently reduce my temps.

    Thanks a lot
     
  25. getheo

    getheo Newbie

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    Hi to everyone,
    I put the ssd i asked above and is working great. Now i want to ask if you think i should put the 8GB RAM i asked about a few posts back. I can get it for a very good price from a friend, but i don't know if i need it now with the ssd. What's your opinion?
     
  26. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    If you're graphics designer or doing a lot of video/audio editing, you will need the extra RAM. So, 8GB will be useful. For gaming, it is not required. If you can get it with a very good price, why not. Just grab it if you want.

    @ vasantonio, I think I already answered your question in another thread but I will answer it again here. The modified BIOS only contains newer CPU microcode revision for i7-720QM. You won't noticed the improvement from the new revision. The modified BIOS also contain unlocked hidden menu like Turbo Boost, Hyperthreading, etc. The only menu which doesn't work is FAN settings. This is because FAN on Dell Studio 1557 is controlled by Embedded Controller. Most notebook controlled the same way. To improved the CPU temperature, you'll need to change the thermal compound. I recommend Shin-Etsu thermal compound. You can see the result in my previous post. I don't know how good ICD7 will work on Dell Studio 1557 though because heatsink didn't put much pressure to CPU for ICD7 to perform best, at least this is what most people tell me (but these people have desktop computer, not notebook. :) ). One think I can confirm is the heatsink on this notebook does put little pressure on the CPU. If anyone using ICD7, please share their CPU temperature reading. You also need to clean the FAN/exhaust grills. Dust accumulated on the exhaust grills can prevent the hot air from escaping & this can cooking the CPU instead.
     
  27. Dilem31

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    Hello everyone,
    I did "copper shim" or rather "alu shim" and now my temps are really great, around 50-55 min (browsing) and 85 max (playing) for the cpu and 55min 80 max for the gpu.

    Now i'm wondering how to reduce the noise from the fan, is it possible to remplace it ? Which one would you recommand ?
     
  28. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    Yes it is possible to replace the FAN. I don't know which one is best though. You can easily find a replacement FAN for Dell Studio 1557 like this:-
    Dell Studio 1557 CPU Heatsink and Fan RGF24 | eBay

    Regarding the noise, I'm afraid you have to live with it.
     
  29. MoInSTL

    MoInSTL Notebook Consultant

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    You can look around online for one with a lower decibel level but still a high CFM (fan capacity in cubic feet per minute). I know there are a lot of them for desktop PCs but there may be one that works.

    Google may help.
    Laptop Fans - Thermal Fan Units for Notebook Computers
    Quiet Computer Fans - Quiet PC Fans - AcousticPC.com
    5 Things You Can Do To Silence A Noisy Laptop Fan

    Good luck and please post back if you find one.
     
  30. andmost

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    hi, please how I can update my bios from A02 to A09 modded? my Dell is the studio 1557 with 4GB of memory. I tried to update the memory to 8GB but with A02 the notebook doesn´t accept the two banks of 4GB eachone. I tried only one bank of 4GB but it´s the same. I have windows 7 ultimate 64bit and I tried with the file A07 on the official site with winflash but it doesn´t work! Then I tried with the A09 modded in this forum and it doesn´t work, I believe because the version of PHLASH16.EXE is for 32 bit not for 64 bit.
    Someone can help me?
    Thanks
    Andrea
    Italy
     
  31. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    To flash the modified BIOS, you'll need to do it in DOS mode. Meaning you'll need to boot with DOS bootable disk. You can use USB flash drive for this.
     
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    perfect! thanks, solved in dos mode with an USB flash drive.
    Many thanks for the help!
     
  33. SirMick

    SirMick Newbie

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    Hi!

    Does the modified BIOS by chance enable booting from eSATA devices?

    Thx,
    --SirMick
     
  34. soheilsh

    soheilsh Newbie

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    I desperately need your help.
    I replace the hard drive with
    "Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD5000BEVT 500GB 5400 RPM 8MB Cache 2.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Notebook Hard Drive -Bare Drive"
    and now when i turn on the laptop i get
    "PXE-E61: Media test failure, Check cable.
    PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel PXE-ROM
    Boot failure: System Halted" .
    The CD ROM is not working either. I can not insert the CD. Restoring BIOS setting to default didn't help either. I changed the hard drive with another one which already has OS installed and still same issue. and yes i did select to boot from hard drive. I don't understand what happen to the CD ROM.
    Please help me out to troubleshoot this.

    thanks
     
  35. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    You don't need modified BIOS for this. You should be able to see the eSATA HDD is detected in BIOS (in Main section). If you enter BIOS (press F2) & go to Boot<sup> 1</sup> section, you should see "+ Hard Disk"<sup> 1</sup>. The "+" symbol means there are more than one HDD are detected. Press Enter at "+ Hard Disk"<sup> 1</sup> & you should see eSATA HDD after internal HDD. Just need to move the eSATA HDD to the top. Save & Exit<sup> 1</sup>. Then to boot from eSATA, just need to press F12 at Dell logo & select Hard Disk.

    <sup> 1</sup> The naming might not accurate. ;)

    I never boot from eSATA but my eSATA HDD show up in the Boot section.
    After turn on the notebook, enter BIOS (press F2). At the Main section, make sure HDD is detected.
    - If not, make sure HDD is properly connected.
    - If the HDD still not detected, test the HDD on another computer.
    - If the HDD is detected & working properly on another computer, the SATA interface on your Dell might be faulty.
     
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  36. SirMick

    SirMick Newbie

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    Kizwan,

    thanks, you are the man! Works like a champ with stock BIOS.

    A bit awkward though that the eSATA drive can only be configured as boot drive in the persistent BIOS settings and not on the fly in the F2 boot menu, like on my PWS M4500.

    --SirMick
     
  37. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    Yeah, I know. It kinda annoying you need to set in BIOS first.
     
  38. soheilsh

    soheilsh Newbie

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    kizwan Thank you for getting back to me. I am still struggling with this. In the BIOS setting i noticed it doesn't detect the hard drive. I tried 3 different hard drive. It doesn't detect any of them. I am not sure what i have to change under BIOS to make this work!! I have already restore BIOS setting to default.
     
  39. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    Can you test those HDDs on another notebook? If those HDDs are detected & working properly on another notebook, I think possibly the SATA port is faulty. If this is the case, you might need to replace the motherboard though.
     
  40. Goetterfunke

    Goetterfunke Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello Kizwan,

    thank you for your benchmark with the dell 1557. I want to do a x2 link on my dell 1747 but i can't find the mini PM3N you used with your setup. Can you please send me a link to the product? Or did you just cut it off?

    Thank you very much
    Greetings from Germany
     
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  41. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    The PM3N card is a full length mini-PCIe card but you can cut the legs off to make it half-length mini-PCIe card. The reason why it have four screw holes.
     
  42. Goetterfunke

    Goetterfunke Notebook Enthusiast

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    Okay, nice! Thank you! ;) I've got another question regarding your modified Bios: can you unlock every Bios? And if yes, is it done only by changing a value like "ShowUnlockMenuItems = 1" or did you implement all the stuff? And if no, can i do the same with my 1747 Bios? I never read about s.o. who flashed his selfmade bios to a laptop :D Thanks for your time
     
  43. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    I only unlocked hidden menu in Phoenix BIOS. I can't add new menu for new feature/function to existing BIOS. I also can't make my own BIOS, I can only mod existing BIOS. I'm not the only one who use my BIOS mod, thousand of people also using my BIOS mod. :)
     
  44. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    This is the max CPU temp I got after playing Bad Company 2:-
    [​IMG]
     
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  45. Goetterfunke

    Goetterfunke Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello Kizwan,

    in advance sorry for my bad english, I need some help and I hope you get an idea of what my problem is... ;)

    My Laptop is a Dell Studio 1747 from 2009 with PM55 Chipset and an i7 720qm + AMD 4650 1024MB with 8 Gb ram and I want to do a x1 link (stuff for x2 link not arrived yet) - similar to your system. Today I have received my PE4H 2.4 from Taiwan - therefore I'm very happy. I hooked it all up and got error code 12 in the Device Manager. So I tryed to follow the steps described in Post #1 of the eGPU Thread but nothing works. :/

    My problems:

    1. If I boot with eGPU Powered ON: Stuck at the Windows 7 64Bit Logo (Waited for 10 Minutes)

    2. If I try PCI compaction in Setup 1.x: Can't press [Enter] after PCI compaction and have to reboot.

    3. If I Hotplug the eGPU Windows find my 6950 in Device Manager with error code 12

    I hope you can give me some advice. Thanks a lot

    Greetings

    PCI Ports


    My Setup

    Edit: If the 8 gig are the problem, are you able to mod my BIOS so it would work?
     
  46. kizwan

    kizwan Lord Pringles

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    Hi Goetterfunke,

    Can you open new thread, e.g. "Dell Studio 1747 & eGPU Experience"? This is Dell Studio 1557 thread. I don't want to go off-topic here. Moderator might not happy. In the new thread, please post:-
    - Your notebook specification.
    - eGPU kit you use, e.g. PE4H-EC2C
    - Name of the graphic card you use.
    - Post picture of the PCI ports
    - Post picture of your setup
    - Post screenshot of the Device Manager (set View to " Resources by connection" & expand only the root of Memory tree).

    After you have created the new thread, invite me there. I will help you.
     
  47. Goetterfunke

    Goetterfunke Notebook Enthusiast

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    khan1 Newbie

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    hi kizwan can u mod the dell precision 490 bios
     
  49. SirMick

    SirMick Newbie

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    Hi chaps,

    I know the 1557 officially only supports 8GB of RAM. However, has anyone tried to put 2 x 8GB DIMMs into it? These modules have gotten fairly cheap recently.

    Regards,
    --SirMick
     
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    trancedrift Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi kizwan,

    I am really impressed with the temperature improvement that you show from the Shin-Etsu G751 test. I am going to open up the the laptop soon and clean the dust off the heat sink, and while doing that I wish to change the thermal paste as well. I was considering substituting the ICD7 which I have now with the copper shim mod with Arctic silver MX4 but after I saw your results I have doubts. Maybe I should try this Shin-Etsu G751.

    Would you mind sharing what kind of quantity of thermal paste was required, the syringes seem to be 0.5g each. They seem to be cheap, compared to the transport costs to the Netherlands.. 5 euro for the paste and 15 euro for the delivery....
     
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