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    Dell Vista Laptop Reformat and Bloatware Removal Guide

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Les, Aug 18, 2007.

  1. Les

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    My advise is to stay away from the free trialware such as McAfee. There is nothing wrong with it but I strongly suggest AVG as it has a very small footprint and does not grab control of your system. In addition to it being free, I believe it is the easiest to understand and learn and also updates almost daily.
     
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    The point is not that it's trialware, but that they have a subscription that they don't know how to activate after the clean install.

    My 1520 came with a 3-year McAfee license and a McAfee reinstall disk w/serial key on it that I assume will activate my license. I've never tried it though because as soon as I got my laptop I did a clean install and never saw McAfee again. :cool:
     
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    Well, maybe I'm better off without it. I'll just wait till my 30 day trial is over then consider AVG. I already have SuperAntiSpyware so i'm pretty much set after I get antivirus.
     
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    hey guys thanks for the help it is a great guide and just finished everything.
    i liked the black xps background. where i can find it?
    and i have a problem with one update to vista that gives me a 8000fff error?
    someone know something about it?
     
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    I have heard that the free AVG does not do a very good job of removing viruses, but is great at detecting. Is there any truth to this?
     
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    if you get the newest AVG 8.0, you should be fine. never had any problems with AVG. The new version looks brilliant and includes anti-spyware as well. Plus it improves system performance. :D
     
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    Thanks for the info Stoy
     
  9. Les

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    I am not aware of the answer to that d4nz0r....I havent had a virus that I know of in several years since using AVG.
     
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    Hi, i followed your guide and the reinstall went fine, just one question, is the dell media direct supposed to show up as a partition, because for me it doesnt, but when i do push the home button it works just fine
     
  11. Les

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    No...its invisible.
     
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    awsome thanks rep for uu
     
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    I just reformatted all my drives, installed XP, and have now reinstalled Vista to dual boot. I have this driver's and utilities disc that came with the computer (the one that everyone gets) but I'm unsure of exactly how to reinstall the drivers for Vista so that everything looked and is running as before (minus the bloatware). Do I just click on my system and go through the list, installing everything?
     
  14. chunkie

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    Thanks for the wonderful guide!!

    A couple of qns though from a 1st timer...

    If I perform a complete backup of my pc now (b4 reformatting), will it backup all my partitions? (os + data partition + mediadirect partition + dell restore partition)

    If it does, and if anything goes wrong during the clean install, can I restore my system using the dell restore partition from the above image?

    And, I want to create a separate partition for my data. Which means C drive for OS and D drive for data. Do I press no 2 instead and input the value for C drive? What value would you recommend? 20/30/40gb?

    If so, how many partitions will I have? 3? C drive + D drive + mediadirect. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Sorry if these have been addressed before.
     
  15. stoy

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    no worries, glad I could help

    jtb, you dont need to install everything. just go through the list of drivers and install what you know you have on your system. so if you've ordered built-in bluetooth you need to install the bluetooth driver etc. also I would advise for you to install Intel Matrix Storage Manager. that's the actual program not just the driver, you can download it from the dell driver website below. it will improve your hard-drive performance I believe. once you've done if you go to Device Manager via Control Panel and any hardware which still isnt running properly or is missing drivers will have a yellow triangle next to it. you need the drivers for those as well. these are available from either the CD or Dell's website.

    http://support.euro.dell.com/support/downloads/index.aspx?c=uk&cs=&l=en&s=gen

    chunkie, if you use acronis or CompletePC Back-Up (available on higher end versions of Vista) to back up your system, they'll create an exact image of your entire system. including any hidden partitions such as media-direct. so yes it backs up all of your partitions if you tell it to. if something does go wrong during the install which is very unlikely, and this is a good moment to say that you can't damage any of your hardware if you are re-formatting. the back-up will restore your system to exactly how it was on the time of back-up. so you wont need to restore it from the recovery partition because everything will have been restored already. just a quick note, when you are backing up your system you need to do it on DVDs or an external hard-drive because if you do it on the hard-drive you are formatting that will get wiped as well. for a data partition as well, you are right you need to select option 2. regarding the size of C: drive, personally I would allocate at least 50G because you never know what programs or games you might need to install in the future. so with 50G you are less likely to run out of space. Giving it more won't hurt you, it all depends on the size of your hard-drive and how much data you are planning to keep on it. if you do chose option 2 you'll get 3 partitions, C: , D: and the media-direct one. although only C: & D: will visible in My Computer (or just Computer in Vista, I preferred My Computer lol) because the media-direct partition is hidden.

    hope this helps. :)
     
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    I just did a clean install without media direct and everything went great but what is this windows.old folder i deleted and gain back 30gb so my question is should i do another clean install or am I fine?
     
  17. Dynamo44

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    Hey,

    My XPS M1530 should be arriving on Monday and I’m planning to go through the process of a clean install (maybe on Tuesday). I’ve taken the time to sift through this thread, and I was hoping that I could have a few questions answered before Tuesday.

    Just for some background, I purchased an OEM disk for Vista Ultimate 64-bit from newegg with which I will perform the clean install: ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116215)

    1. Prior to performing the clean install I know I need to back up my data. I will be using Acronis as suggested by Les. My question is, will I have to download the trial version on my out of the box XPS and will Acronis walk me through what to do from there? And furthermore, will DVD-R’s be sufficient to use during the back up process?

    2. Second, the media I attained from newegg says it contains “Anytime Upgrade” media. Is that the way in which my clean install should be executed? And when would I (if I need to at all) register/activate Vista Ultimate?

    3. The media I attained from newegg does NOT include SP1, when in the course of this guide would I go about installing SP1?

    4. Are the drivers contained in this:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=255232&highlight=64+bit+drivers

    sufficient for the clean install? If so, should I just copy the ACHI along with all the other drivers to an external drive? I am particularly concerned with which nVidia driver I should use as I have heard of the recent problems and I do plan to game on my XPS.

    5. Also, prior to the clean install, do I need to register anything other than LoJack? I do not plan on using the Norton anti-virus that will come pre-installed on my system. I have heard that people receive calls from LoJack, what are they about?

    Thank you very much.
     
  18. chunkie

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    Thanks stoy.

    I'm just wondering.. if I were to copy the files on my recovery partition using My Computer, build an iso and burn it into a disc... will I be able to boot from it? And, restore my pc using the disc? Just as I would with the Dell Restore Partition.
     
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    hmm, that's odd. because that usually happens when you install one windows over another without formatting. but if everything is running as normal and you are happy with performance I see no real reason for doing it again. Unless you enjoyed it. lol

    dynamo, yes acronis will talk you through everything. and DVDs should be fine, you might have to use a few though to back-up everything.

    As for the disk, you just treat it like ordinary Vista disk, and since it will be a different version therefore a different serial key, you probably will have to activate it once you've got everything up and running.

    SP1 is downloaded from the microsoft website so after the re-format and once you've got your internet connection ready.

    The drivers look quite comprehensive to me. After you've installed everything you can always check if something is missing, by going into Device Manager via Control Panel. Any hardware missing drivers will have a yellow triangle next to it. And you will need AHCI driver just before the Vista install so make sure you'll be able to access the driver from a USB drive, or a external hard-drive you can hook up to your laptop. As for nVidia drivers, I just use the one from the Dell website. Everything looks brilliant and I'm happy with it. But I'm not totally sure about the problems with the XPS since I'm using an Inspiron.

    Again for the Lojack, I'm not completely sure since I've never used it. But I do know you need to register it before re-formatting otherwise you have to phone Dell and various customer services which is never good, because you just waste time. For any other software depends on if you have ordered any from Dell and it is advisable that if you have that you register it to make thing a lot easier. :) only 2 days before you get your system :D lol Happy Re-Formatting!!!!

    chunkie, don't know if that's going to work but I see no reason why it shouldn't. Although if you were to restore your system that way it would just bring back all the bloatware you're trying to get rid of. For me I saw no reason to back-up the condition in which my system came because there was nothing on there that I wanted I couldn't get back easily. So I just wacked in the media direct disk and wiped everything. :) But if you want to back-up certainly do so.
     
  20. aceZsta

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    Ok, so I ordered a system with 320gb, and after the clean install, 295gb remained. I know, this is a noob question, and I don't feel like reading through the past hundred pages. Where and how is 25gb of missing storage being utilized now?
     
  21. stoy

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    the actual hard-drive size wont be the same as stated. that's because manufacturers advertise that 1000 bytes=1 kilobytes, but it's actually 1024b = 1kb because computers work in binary, so it's normal to have some space missing
     
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    Oh, ok. So the missing space is normal, not something that was moved or lost in the clean install?
     
  23. Dynamo44

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    Thanks for the info stoy. One more question: I heard that currently there is no 64-bit support for the fingerprint reader. Are there any other current "incompatibilities" with 64-bit that I should know about? Anyone? Thanks!
     
  24. Les

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    Look up Upek 64 bit fp driver. if you dig hard enough you will find the complete software file. Dig through Trebuins 64bit thread...it is prob there somewhere as well. If not try www.x-drivers.com
     
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    I've heard that there are two components, the suite and the driver. Or am I mistaken?
     
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    I know I'm asking a silly question and I can just dig for it.

    Would it be exactly the same if I had MediaDirect 4?
     
  27. stoy

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    yep, it's completely normal. You haven't lost anything.

    pocky, I didn't know there was a media-direct 4. But I'm pretty sure it will the same as described in the wonderful guide at the start.
     
  28. Dynamo44

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    Does reformating using this guide also maintain the touch functionality of MediaDirect? (With the light-up icons on the laptop I mean)
     
  29. stoy

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    I dont know what do you mean? are you talking about the media buttons near the front?
     
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    Yup, those.
     
  31. stoy

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    yep, they still work perferctly fine. :) are you re-formatting today?
     
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    Nah, I think I'll just back-up my stuff for now. I'll probably look over the guide one more time and refomat tomorrow. =)
     
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    cool, i wouldn't worry about it too much. it's really quite easy :)
     
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    My new Studio 15 shipped with Media Direct 4. That's why I'm asking. :D

    Now where is the AHCI Driver? On the OS disk? I tried looking on dell.com, not sure what i'm looking for. I feel like such a noob.

    Now i'm having 2nd thoughts of doing this, and leaving it as is.
     
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    (First message from my XPS!)

    So, I've registered LoJack and Norton Internet Security. Is there anything else that needs to be activated/registered before I create back-up disks?
     
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    nnoooo, it's easy trust me! you'll gain so much performance. right the driver is actually called Intel Matrix Storage Manager. here's the links below. I don't know if you have got the 1535 or 1536 so I've got both. lol

    1535 - http://support.euro.dell.com/suppor...stemID=STUDIO1535&os=WLH&osl=en&catid=&impid=

    1536 - http://support.euro.dell.com/suppor...stemID=STUDIO1536&os=WLH&osl=en&catid=&impid=

    now, the driver is under the category SATA drives. For the 1535 there's 2 files, make sure you get the second one which says driver. 1536's link there is only 1 file under 'SATA drivers' that's the right one. Don't worry about the name. Now once you download the the file run it and when it says where you want to extract it select a folder in your removable media. then when it comes to install vista you just wack in ure USB stick or whatever and just point windows to the folder. If you are worried, just relax there's a link in the 1st post for screenshots for the installation, which I've put below.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=3314842&postcount=1291

    dynamo, nothing I'm aware of. unless you've ordered any extra software from dell?
     
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    Hmm, not anything else I can think of. I do have discs for Roxio and Adobe (premiere + photoshop). Is it best to just register these as well so I can get them back after the clean install? Thanks.
     
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    Thank you so much!!! I might just do it now hehe

    Now reading dynamo's post, it's best to register all the trial software FIRST?

    What happens if I reformat and stick the roxio cd into the computer after the clean install?
     
  39. stoy

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    I dont know if they need registering, you can do. But I wouldn't worry about it too much. I didn't re-install Roxio just used Nero.
     
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    No worries. Depends if you are going to use it afterwards. If they are just trial software, there's no point installing them for a few weeks and then getting rid of them. I would recommend AVG 8.0 over Norton/McAfee anytime. But if you have actually paid for them and are planning to use them, you better register it before re-formatting to save yourself trouble. But if you are sure you're not goin to use them then there isnt much point. I dont know about Roxio, but as I said if you're going to use it, register it.

    Do it now lol :D Doesn't take long and let us know how it went.
     
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    Could someone post there experience using Acronis? I'm backing up right now using a Tue Image 11 trial. I chose to completely back up all partitions. My "current operation progress" bar is advancng, but the "operation in progress" meter is still at 0%. Also, about how long does the back-up process take? Thank you.
     
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    I think you'd get better answers if you posted this question in a new thread in the "Windows OS and Software" forum... http://forum.notebookreview.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15
     
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    Hi,

    Would the following set-up work ok on a Dell Studio Laptop (ordering it soon)

    1. Reformat C:/, create a backup partition (for misc files),install a fresh copy of Windows Vista Home Premium OEM on C:/.

    2. Keep the other partitions (such as the restore/MediaDirect ones)

    3. Reinstall MediaDirect on the fresh copy of Windows Vista.

    4. Install Drivers and other required stuff.

    Will the above work and still allow me to use the dell recovery partition if I wanted to go back to factory default at any point?

    Thanks,
    chris.
     
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    it takes about 20 min to back it up, and depending on how big your HD is, it stores usually around 35-55 gigs for a full back-up..i would back it up to an external HD if i was you. Also true image 11 is funky, is respects to that it wont show true progress down at the bottom bar, it will get a quarter of the way through, and then fully finish.
     
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    Yes, this will work, but you will have to install the mediadirect partition before formatting your C:/ and installing vista.
     
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    Hi, thanks for the reply.

    Could you just explain the part about installing the mediadirect partition? Is it not already installed on a partition by default?

    Many thanks,
    Chris
     
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    In the original post of this thread, the first 2 steps of the procedure explain that to begin the process, you have to place the mediadirect CD into the laptop and then reboot using the CD. Basically, Mediadirect installation involves to disjoint steps. The beginning of the entire process is where the first step is. This is to set up the partitions. This MUST be done to format the 3GB mediadirect partition during a reformat. The 2nd step for mediadirect is towards the very end of the entire reformat procedure(step 9).

    So you can set up your new Studio laptop the way you want it with the extra partition, but you should do that during the vista installation phase. After you boot with the Vista disc, you will see a partitioning screen. There, you can create a new partition for whatever you like.

    There are 2 partitioning phases. The first one is using the Mediadirect CD, and it creates a 3GB Mediadirect partition, and leaves the rest to the C: partition (recovery partition is hidden and not used during this partition phase). The 2nd partitioning phase is in the early steps of the Vista reinstallation. Here, you will see every partition you have, and can make a new one as you see fit.
     
  48. Dynamo44

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    All right! I got it. So I did the clean install. Have a couple of questions though. When I ran the drivers and utilities disc, only three came up unchecked: bluetooth, wireless, and ethernet. Is that the norm?

    Also, is it all right for me to use the other "drivers and utilities disc" now? (The one labeled "For Reinstalling Dell Webcam Manager")

    Also, how can I open up the Dell Resource Application w/o inserting the CD again? Thank you.
     
  49. houstoned

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    does partition = diff drives?

    also rep'd les and basmaster for the great info =)
     
  50. stoy

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    yeah, you can use the webcam CD. That installs the webcam drivers and a quite cool webcam application. As for the drivers don't worry about having checks just install what you know you have. As for the Resource Application try looking in the All Programs via the Start Button.

    houstoned, yes in a way. they come up as different drives in My Computer. So you can do anything you want to one of them, but it won't affect the other. So in software terms yes, but it's still the same physical hard-drive. Hope it makes sense lol
     
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