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    Dell XPS-M1330 + 3007HC-wfp

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Raphie, Sep 12, 2007.

  1. Raphie

    Raphie Notebook Consultant

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    I am trying to connect my beloved XPS-M1330 to my 30" Dell 3007HC-wfp LCD via HDMI. (Nvidia 8400m-G running Forceware 163.67)

    I've got a brand new Belden HDMI - DVI-D cable and when connected, the system recognizes the panel (even names it) but i am not able to select a higher resolution than 1280 * 800 (the resolution of the M1330 panel)

    I know HDMI is single link (supports only up to 1920 * 1080)
    I've also been able to run this resolution (1080p) on my Pioneer full HD plasma.

    So the XPS can do it, the panel can go up till 2560 * 1600 if driven by a dual link card. But it seems that this Forceware driver (an all other versions i've tried before) are not allowing to select a higher res than the M1330 panel res.
    unless it sees the panel as a HDTV (via the EDID messages)

    My question is: how do i get rid of this restriction? are there alternative inf files (yes i've searched whole laptopvideo2go, but no answers)
    or can i make some regstry changes to overide this limitation?

    All tips are welcome!
     
  2. L.Rawlins

    L.Rawlins Notebook Evangelist

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    I believe there's a setting (tickbox if I recall correctly) somewhere in the 'Nview' control panel that forces an external monitor to replicate the res. of the primary display only. That's all I can think of right now.

    I must see pictures of this. The flat panel is two and a bit times wider than the computer powering it! Awesome.

    Quick interjection for the original thread poster: How do you find the 'HC' of these newly released monitors? Would you say that the contrast has greatly improved sinced the revision, or is it negligible?
     
  3. Raphie

    Raphie Notebook Consultant

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    The contrast has vastly improved, where on the "old" 3007 i had was putting m contrast nearly on max, i have it now around half. also the colours are much more natural. I am very pleased with this screen.

    I've used this screen on my desktop PC with 8800GTX for nearly a year now. @ 2560 * 1600 and it rocks. However my 8800GXT has now been replaced by a 8600GT (for Purevideo HD) and my desktop now serves as a medicenter in the living. Driving a Pioneer pdp-5000ex 50" full HD plasma @ 1900 * 1080

    Making the 3007HC more or less redundant, Hence i want to use it for my XPS
     
  4. Raphie

    Raphie Notebook Consultant

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    i can't find that switch anywhere in the Nvidia controll panel, nor the inf file
     
  5. L.Rawlins

    L.Rawlins Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm trying to remember where it was, I'm currently at work on an ATI Dell so I can't really 'look' as it were. From what I recall, it was in a 'desktop managers' pop-up window, whereby you could force the monitors to use seperate wallpapers and resolution profiles. It was not in the main 'tree' of the driver menu (perhaps a branch of the 'Nview' configuration options).

    Sorry, the information is vague I know, but it's the best I can do. Hopefully, someone actually sitting infront of an Nvidia powered Dell will chime in shortly. :)
     
  6. Samuel613

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    Make sure your monitor's drivers are installed, then in the nView control panel, select advanced mode, dual monitors, separate resolution for each, and you should be able to go as high as the card can dish out.
     
  7. L.Rawlins

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    See, told you. :p
     
  8. Raphie

    Raphie Notebook Consultant

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    nope, that's exactly the problem: Nview recognizes the 3007hc, but still only allows a resolution up to 1280 * 800........ the slide can't move further to the right
     
  9. Raphie

    Raphie Notebook Consultant

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    BUMP:
    I've tried all Forceware versions available (currently 163.69) but no luck, the external resolutions stays limited to 1280 * 800

    The 8400m supports up to 2560 * 1600 (when connected DualLink)
    The HDMI out on the XPS-M1330 is single link, but this should still support resolutions up to 1920 * 1080 :p

    When i look into Display Settings > Advanced Settings > List All Modes It shows that the maximum resolution supported by the adapter is 1280 * 800

    So the question is, how do i unlock the 1920 * 1080 resolution to at least enjoy the full potential of Single Link on my Dell 3007HC-wfp?

    Also, please note that when i connect my Pioneer PDP-5000ex Plasma panel to my XPS-M1330, it identifies it properly and i am able to view Vista @ 1920 * 1080p HDTV resolution, so the hardware does definately support it. :magic:

    It seems that either PC mode resolutions need to be unlocked in the driver.
    All help is appreciated!
     
  10. liquidplasma6

    liquidplasma6 Notebook Evangelist

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    i was able to output 1080p on my 50" and was able to output 1680x1050 on my 22" dell LCD

    i have the 158.36 drivers

    In the nvidia cp go to Display > Change Resolution
    select your monitor and then change the resolution, works fine for me
     
  11. fabarati

    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    It's the screen. It doesn't have a built in scaler, so the highest resolution it can do on a single-link connection is 1280x800 (which is one fourth of 2560x1600). You'll need dual-link to drive it.
     
  12. Raphie

    Raphie Notebook Consultant

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    how did you connect the LCD? via VGA or HDMI > DVI-D?
     
  13. Raphie

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    i can't even get 1920 * 1080 with borders. So this should have nothing to do with scaling. for some the driver should offer higher res than 1280 * 800 regardless. Wih my 8600GT i can select any resolution with this panel.
     
  14. Raphie

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    According to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVI

    (Single) WUXGA 1920 × 1200 @ 60 Hz
    (Dual) WQXGA (2560 × 1600) @ 60 Hz
     
  15. Raphie

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    It's alo strange that it does recognize the 3007HC, but whenever you try to select is as primary monitor, the control panel jumps back to PnP Monitor after you hit apply.
     
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    UPDATE:

    just tried a Dell 1907wfp LCD and guess what? both on DVI and RGB VGA i get 1440 * 900 :D

    It seems that though the HDMI connector single link, supports up to 1920 * 1080, on the 3007HC it only displays 1280 * 800.

    So the problem is not with the M1330 or the cables. The 3007hc only allows 1280 * 800 on the single link.

    The good thing now is that i know what the issue is. The bad thing is, that it renders this monitor useless in combination with my XPS-M1330
     
  17. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    I have my Dell 22" hooked up through HDMI and it defaults to 1680 x 1050 with the double press of Fn+F8 to switch to the external screen.

    And Raphie...yuk...you need to get rid of that 30" screen. My shipping address is...

    I would call and tackle the problem with Dell. very least if it can't be fixed that might be a huge reason for a large discount being sent back your way.
     
  18. Mavlow

    Mavlow Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just picked up a XPS 720 for mediacenter purposes as well. i know the 8800 does not have the purevideo HD built into it but i was hoping it would be able to push my 52" sony for blu-ray movie viewing?

    What were your results when using the 8800 for hd playback?
     
  19. Raphie

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    Very good, only much power consumption and heat disspensation
     
  20. Raphie

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    UPDATE: just swapped my 3007HC-WFP with the 2407WFP of my brother. now i can enjoy 1920 * 1200 via HDMI with no problems. The issue was the EDID chip in the 3007hc which only supports 2 hardware resolutions: 1280 * 800 and 2560 * 1600.
     
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    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    See I told you so. Why did no one listen?
     
  22. Raphie

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    Yes, you where right! i just didn't realise that the EDID of the 3007 was some limited when single link, as i have been running 1920 * 1200 before on it (though duallink) and now the 2407 does 1920 * 1200 single link.

    Maybe i should test the new 27" as well. see i that one holds up to native resolution as well. When being used to 30" 24" is a real step backwards....
     
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    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    It's only the 30" screens. This goes for all 30" WQXGA screens, with the exception of the new Gateway XHD3000. The reasone that the gateway is an exception is that it has a plethora of video connections (HDMI, VGA, DVI, two component inputs, composite, S-Video) and that it has a Silicon Optix Realta HQV video processor actually allowing it to scale.
     
  24. Raphie

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    Hmmm Dell will probably come with something similar with their 3008HC model.
    I guess i stick with the 2407 up until i know what will happen in 30" land....

    If nothing exciting (read to be used @ native resolution with XPS-M1330) is being released, then i might go for the new 2407HC I find the "old" LCD a bit too green and it shows some green banding when scrolling fast on white backgrounds. See if Dell got that problem sorted with the new HC version.
     
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    Took the plunge and ordered a Dell 2407HC (the my brother can get his 2407 back) The 3007HC will make itself usefull elsewhere in the household (maybe a new desktop 8900GTX based gamePC when due)